And on a related note….
https://www.barrons.com/news/13-senten ... e-0f0dc729
“13 Sentenced To Death For Homosexuality In Yemen
A Huthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to public execution on homosexuality charges, a judicial source said Tuesday, as human rights groups decried a rise in abuses by the Iran-backed rebels…
Three others were jailed on similar charges…
Another 35 people have been detained by Huthis in Ibb province on homosexuality charges”
So where are “Queers Against Houthis”…? Oh yeah… busy being “Queers for Palestine” where they would get the exact same treatment…
Iranian women violently dragged from streets by police amid hijab crackdown
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I just don't get it.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:05 pm And on a related note….
https://www.barrons.com/news/13-senten ... e-0f0dc729
“13 Sentenced To Death For Homosexuality In Yemen
A Huthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to public execution on homosexuality charges, a judicial source said Tuesday, as human rights groups decried a rise in abuses by the Iran-backed rebels…
Three others were jailed on similar charges…
Another 35 people have been detained by Huthis in Ibb province on homosexuality charges”
So where are “Queers Against Houthis”…? Oh yeah… busy being “Queers for Palestine” where they would get the exact same treatment…
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Sure you do.Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:24 pmI just don't get it.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:05 pm And on a related note….
https://www.barrons.com/news/13-senten ... e-0f0dc729
“13 Sentenced To Death For Homosexuality In Yemen
A Huthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to public execution on homosexuality charges, a judicial source said Tuesday, as human rights groups decried a rise in abuses by the Iran-backed rebels…
Three others were jailed on similar charges…
Another 35 people have been detained by Huthis in Ibb province on homosexuality charges”
So where are “Queers Against Houthis”…? Oh yeah… busy being “Queers for Palestine” where they would get the exact same treatment…
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I have a theory. We’re talking wokes. Their minds have been conditioned to very simplistic ideas:
- weak/poor = oppressed = good
- strong/rich = oppressed = bad
And while that may be sometimes true, they apply it universally. It’s always that way.
So they have to see themselves as the “good guys”, therefore weak, poor and oppressed by the “bad guys”. For certain minorities, that’s easy as they’ve been discriminated against and probably still experience some rejection. So they identify with poor/weak/“oppressed”, therefore “good” and so stand with them, support them because they’re the same. And they mistakenly think that those that they see as brethren in “oppression” feel the same way and will stand by them and support them because they’re birds of a feather. They don’t see the reality that they don’t share the same ideas and values. For starters, they don’t see weakness and poverty as things to fight against, they’re assets to be used in destroying the enemy. And they don’t see that they’re consider amongst the “enemies” to fight against.
- weak/poor = oppressed = good
- strong/rich = oppressed = bad
And while that may be sometimes true, they apply it universally. It’s always that way.
So they have to see themselves as the “good guys”, therefore weak, poor and oppressed by the “bad guys”. For certain minorities, that’s easy as they’ve been discriminated against and probably still experience some rejection. So they identify with poor/weak/“oppressed”, therefore “good” and so stand with them, support them because they’re the same. And they mistakenly think that those that they see as brethren in “oppression” feel the same way and will stand by them and support them because they’re birds of a feather. They don’t see the reality that they don’t share the same ideas and values. For starters, they don’t see weakness and poverty as things to fight against, they’re assets to be used in destroying the enemy. And they don’t see that they’re consider amongst the “enemies” to fight against.
Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:24 pmI just don't get it.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:05 pm And on a related note….
https://www.barrons.com/news/13-senten ... e-0f0dc729
“13 Sentenced To Death For Homosexuality In Yemen
A Huthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to public execution on homosexuality charges, a judicial source said Tuesday, as human rights groups decried a rise in abuses by the Iran-backed rebels…
Three others were jailed on similar charges…
Another 35 people have been detained by Huthis in Ibb province on homosexuality charges”
So where are “Queers Against Houthis”…? Oh yeah… busy being “Queers for Palestine” where they would get the exact same treatment…
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Interesting theory but it completely disregards the fact that there are LGBTQ groups operating in Palestine, that there are LGBTQ people in Palestine, or that Israel has been accused by LGBTQ groups of "pink washing" even before the war in Gaza.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 6:37 pm I have a theory. We’re talking wokes. Their minds have been conditioned to very simplistic ideas:
- weak/poor = oppressed = good
- strong/rich = oppressed = bad
And while that may be sometimes true, they apply it universally. It’s always that way.
So they have to see themselves as the “good guys”, therefore weak, poor and oppressed by the “bad guys”. For certain minorities, that’s easy as they’ve been discriminated against and probably still experience some rejection. So they identify with poor/weak/“oppressed”, therefore “good” and so stand with them, support them because they’re the same. And they mistakenly think that those that they see as brethren in “oppression” feel the same way and will stand by them and support them because they’re birds of a feather. They don’t see the reality that they don’t share the same ideas and values. For starters, they don’t see weakness and poverty as things to fight against, they’re assets to be used in destroying the enemy. And they don’t see that they’re consider amongst the “enemies” to fight against.
Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:24 pmI just don't get it.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:05 pm And on a related note….
https://www.barrons.com/news/13-senten ... e-0f0dc729
“13 Sentenced To Death For Homosexuality In Yemen
A Huthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to public execution on homosexuality charges, a judicial source said Tuesday, as human rights groups decried a rise in abuses by the Iran-backed rebels…
Three others were jailed on similar charges…
Another 35 people have been detained by Huthis in Ibb province on homosexuality charges”
So where are “Queers Against Houthis”…? Oh yeah… busy being “Queers for Palestine” where they would get the exact same treatment…
Have you actually asked anyone in the LGBTQ community if they support Palestinians and why?
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I mean, are we actively funding Yemen? Or Iran? You can't see a difference? Our tax dollars are supporting a genocide, people are allowed to not like that. If we were sending billions of dollars to Yemen so they can carpet bomb 30,000 homosexuals, I'm sure you'd see more protesting.
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Biden handed $16 billion to Iran… so yes.
And second, educate yourself a little. There’s no “genocide” happening. And no “carpet bombing” for that matter. Spreading those lies and blood libels is what’s fueling antisemitism and attacks on Jews worldwide. At least inform yourself before contributing to that.
What’s happening is war. And as sad and ugly as it is, it’s not a genocide. “Genocide” is the deliberate annihilation of a group of people based on their race, nationality, religion or ethnicity. This isn’t happening in Gaza or has happened at any time during the Arab-Israeli conflict. The palestinian population growth is amongst the highest in the world. According to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, the palestinian population has doubled 10 times since 1948. The Jewish worldwide population hasn’t reached pre- Holocaust numbers yet. THAT’S what a genocide looks like. A population doubling 10 times in the same amount of time? Not a “genocide” by any extent of the imagination.
And FYI, Hamas already admitted to making up casualty numbers. They cannot provide any data for over 11,000 alleged casualties in Gaza. So 35,000 goes down to about 23,000 deaths. Israel accounted for 13,000 combatant deaths. That leaves 10,000 possible civilian deaths, which include civilian fighters, those used as human shields by Hamas and those murdered by Hamas while trying to evacuate or reach humanitarian aid, which is well documented. It also includes deaths not related to the war because, you now, people still die of other causes in the middle of a war. And just a couple of days ago the U.N halved the number of women and children casualties and accepted they were just parroting Hamas’ numbers, like you’re doing, until they had to admit those are false. So definitely not a “genocide”.
If Israel wanted to commit a genocide against palestinians, why wouldn’t they start with the 2 million living in Israel? They are 20% of the Israeli population and have equal rights. They serve in government, the Supreme Court, and the IDF. An Arab judge even sentenced a Jewish former president to jail.
“Carpet bombing”? Hardly. Every target has been a legitimate military target according to international law. It’s proven that Hamas uses hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian homes to hide themselves or weapons, to make entries to the mikes of terror tunnels underneath these buildings. Therefore those buildings become legitimate military targets. John Spencer is an expert in urban warfare and this is what he has to say.
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-implem ... on-1865613
“ Israel Implemented More Measures to Prevent Civilian Casualties Than Any Other Nation in History”
And regarding the “carpet bombing” lie: ‘ The Israeli Defense Force has used many types of PGMs to avoid civilian harm, including the use of munitions like small diameter bombs (SDBs), as well as technologies and tactics that increase the accuracy of non-PGMs. Israel has also employed a tactic when a military has air supremacy called dive bombing, as well as gathering pre-strike intelligence on the presence of civilians from satellite imagery, scans of cell phone presence, and other target observation techniques. All of this is to do more pinpoint targeted to avoid civilian deaths. In other words, the simplistic notion that a military must use more PGMs versus non-PGMs in a war is false.“
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-cr ... on-1883286
“ In my long career studying and advising on urban warfare for the U.S. military, I've never known an army to take such measures to attend to the enemy's civilian population, especially while simultaneously combating the enemy in the very same buildings. In fact, by my analysis, Israel has implemented more precautions to prevent civilian harm than any military in history—above and beyond what international law requires and more than the U.S. did in its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
And second, educate yourself a little. There’s no “genocide” happening. And no “carpet bombing” for that matter. Spreading those lies and blood libels is what’s fueling antisemitism and attacks on Jews worldwide. At least inform yourself before contributing to that.
What’s happening is war. And as sad and ugly as it is, it’s not a genocide. “Genocide” is the deliberate annihilation of a group of people based on their race, nationality, religion or ethnicity. This isn’t happening in Gaza or has happened at any time during the Arab-Israeli conflict. The palestinian population growth is amongst the highest in the world. According to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, the palestinian population has doubled 10 times since 1948. The Jewish worldwide population hasn’t reached pre- Holocaust numbers yet. THAT’S what a genocide looks like. A population doubling 10 times in the same amount of time? Not a “genocide” by any extent of the imagination.
And FYI, Hamas already admitted to making up casualty numbers. They cannot provide any data for over 11,000 alleged casualties in Gaza. So 35,000 goes down to about 23,000 deaths. Israel accounted for 13,000 combatant deaths. That leaves 10,000 possible civilian deaths, which include civilian fighters, those used as human shields by Hamas and those murdered by Hamas while trying to evacuate or reach humanitarian aid, which is well documented. It also includes deaths not related to the war because, you now, people still die of other causes in the middle of a war. And just a couple of days ago the U.N halved the number of women and children casualties and accepted they were just parroting Hamas’ numbers, like you’re doing, until they had to admit those are false. So definitely not a “genocide”.
If Israel wanted to commit a genocide against palestinians, why wouldn’t they start with the 2 million living in Israel? They are 20% of the Israeli population and have equal rights. They serve in government, the Supreme Court, and the IDF. An Arab judge even sentenced a Jewish former president to jail.
“Carpet bombing”? Hardly. Every target has been a legitimate military target according to international law. It’s proven that Hamas uses hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian homes to hide themselves or weapons, to make entries to the mikes of terror tunnels underneath these buildings. Therefore those buildings become legitimate military targets. John Spencer is an expert in urban warfare and this is what he has to say.
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-implem ... on-1865613
“ Israel Implemented More Measures to Prevent Civilian Casualties Than Any Other Nation in History”
And regarding the “carpet bombing” lie: ‘ The Israeli Defense Force has used many types of PGMs to avoid civilian harm, including the use of munitions like small diameter bombs (SDBs), as well as technologies and tactics that increase the accuracy of non-PGMs. Israel has also employed a tactic when a military has air supremacy called dive bombing, as well as gathering pre-strike intelligence on the presence of civilians from satellite imagery, scans of cell phone presence, and other target observation techniques. All of this is to do more pinpoint targeted to avoid civilian deaths. In other words, the simplistic notion that a military must use more PGMs versus non-PGMs in a war is false.“
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-cr ... on-1883286
“ In my long career studying and advising on urban warfare for the U.S. military, I've never known an army to take such measures to attend to the enemy's civilian population, especially while simultaneously combating the enemy in the very same buildings. In fact, by my analysis, Israel has implemented more precautions to prevent civilian harm than any military in history—above and beyond what international law requires and more than the U.S. did in its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:36 am I mean, are we actively funding Yemen? Or Iran? You can't see a difference? Our tax dollars are supporting a genocide, people are allowed to not like that. If we were sending billions of dollars to Yemen so they can carpet bomb 30,000 homosexuals, I'm sure you'd see more protesting.
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The 16 billion was already Iran's money and he simply gave them access to it after it had been frozen (to be used for humanitarian purposes), we aren't constantly shoveling billions upon billions a year to fund their military and authoritarian regime. You've already shown your are super susceptible to propaganda, so your opinion links aren't particularly compelling. Whether or not we will agree on if what is happening is a "genocide", most of the people protesting find the human suffering in Gaza to be unacceptable and that Israel's reaction to the events of 10/7 is dramatically disproportionate. It's terribly unfortunate that antisemitism is getting mixed into it. My dislike of Israel's actions have absolutely zero to do with Jews, Judaism, god, promised land, etc, and everything to do with the human toll this has exacted, which should never be brushed off as "this is war", and I suspect that is true for most protestors. Bad actors will always find a way to act bad but it should not diminish the humanitarian response.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 2:16 pm Biden handed $16 billion to Iran… so yes.
And second, educate yourself a little. There’s no “genocide” happening. And no “carpet bombing” for that matter. Spreading those lies and blood libels is what’s fueling antisemitism and attacks on Jews worldwide. At least inform yourself before contributing to that.
What’s happening is war. And as sad and ugly as it is, it’s not a genocide. “Genocide” is the deliberate annihilation of a group of people based on their race, nationality, religion or ethnicity. This isn’t happening in Gaza or has happened at any time during the Arab-Israeli conflict. The palestinian population growth is amongst the highest in the world. According to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, the palestinian population has doubled 10 times since 1948. The Jewish worldwide population hasn’t reached pre- Holocaust numbers yet. THAT’S what a genocide looks like. A population doubling 10 times in the same amount of time? Not a “genocide” by any extent of the imagination.
And FYI, Hamas already admitted to making up casualty numbers. They cannot provide any data for over 11,000 alleged casualties in Gaza. So 35,000 goes down to about 23,000 deaths. Israel accounted for 13,000 combatant deaths. That leaves 10,000 possible civilian deaths, which include civilian fighters, those used as human shields by Hamas and those murdered by Hamas while trying to evacuate or reach humanitarian aid, which is well documented. It also includes deaths not related to the war because, you now, people still die of other causes in the middle of a war. And just a couple of days ago the U.N halved the number of women and children casualties and accepted they were just parroting Hamas’ numbers, like you’re doing, until they had to admit those are false. So definitely not a “genocide”.
If Israel wanted to commit a genocide against palestinians, why wouldn’t they start with the 2 million living in Israel? They are 20% of the Israeli population and have equal rights. They serve in government, the Supreme Court, and the IDF. An Arab judge even sentenced a Jewish former president to jail.
“Carpet bombing”? Hardly. Every target has been a legitimate military target according to international law. It’s proven that Hamas uses hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian homes to hide themselves or weapons, to make entries to the mikes of terror tunnels underneath these buildings. Therefore those buildings become legitimate military targets. John Spencer is an expert in urban warfare and this is what he has to say.
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-implem ... on-1865613
“ Israel Implemented More Measures to Prevent Civilian Casualties Than Any Other Nation in History”
And regarding the “carpet bombing” lie: ‘ The Israeli Defense Force has used many types of PGMs to avoid civilian harm, including the use of munitions like small diameter bombs (SDBs), as well as technologies and tactics that increase the accuracy of non-PGMs. Israel has also employed a tactic when a military has air supremacy called dive bombing, as well as gathering pre-strike intelligence on the presence of civilians from satellite imagery, scans of cell phone presence, and other target observation techniques. All of this is to do more pinpoint targeted to avoid civilian deaths. In other words, the simplistic notion that a military must use more PGMs versus non-PGMs in a war is false.“
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-cr ... on-1883286
“ In my long career studying and advising on urban warfare for the U.S. military, I've never known an army to take such measures to attend to the enemy's civilian population, especially while simultaneously combating the enemy in the very same buildings. In fact, by my analysis, Israel has implemented more precautions to prevent civilian harm than any military in history—above and beyond what international law requires and more than the U.S. did in its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:36 am I mean, are we actively funding Yemen? Or Iran? You can't see a difference? Our tax dollars are supporting a genocide, people are allowed to not like that. If we were sending billions of dollars to Yemen so they can carpet bomb 30,000 homosexuals, I'm sure you'd see more protesting.
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She's got the narrative down pat. But this time Israel pushed too far with its "war". People are questioning its actions like never before. I hope more demand answers.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:28 pmThe 16 billion was already Iran's money and he simply gave them access to it after it had been frozen (to be used for humanitarian purposes), we aren't constantly shoveling billions upon billions a year to fund their military and authoritarian regime. You've already shown your are super susceptible to propaganda, so your opinion links aren't particularly compelling. Whether or not we will agree on if what is happening is a "genocide", most of the people protesting find the human suffering in Gaza to be unacceptable and that Israel's reaction to the events of 10/7 is dramatically disproportionate. It's terribly unfortunate that antisemitism is getting mixed into it. My dislike of Israel's actions have absolutely zero to do with Jews, Judaism, god, promised land, etc, and everything to do with the human toll this has exacted, which should never be brushed off as "this is war", and I suspect that is true for most protestors. Bad actors will always find a way to act bad but it should not diminish the humanitarian response.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 2:16 pm Biden handed $16 billion to Iran… so yes.
And second, educate yourself a little. There’s no “genocide” happening. And no “carpet bombing” for that matter. Spreading those lies and blood libels is what’s fueling antisemitism and attacks on Jews worldwide. At least inform yourself before contributing to that.
What’s happening is war. And as sad and ugly as it is, it’s not a genocide. “Genocide” is the deliberate annihilation of a group of people based on their race, nationality, religion or ethnicity. This isn’t happening in Gaza or has happened at any time during the Arab-Israeli conflict. The palestinian population growth is amongst the highest in the world. According to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, the palestinian population has doubled 10 times since 1948. The Jewish worldwide population hasn’t reached pre- Holocaust numbers yet. THAT’S what a genocide looks like. A population doubling 10 times in the same amount of time? Not a “genocide” by any extent of the imagination.
And FYI, Hamas already admitted to making up casualty numbers. They cannot provide any data for over 11,000 alleged casualties in Gaza. So 35,000 goes down to about 23,000 deaths. Israel accounted for 13,000 combatant deaths. That leaves 10,000 possible civilian deaths, which include civilian fighters, those used as human shields by Hamas and those murdered by Hamas while trying to evacuate or reach humanitarian aid, which is well documented. It also includes deaths not related to the war because, you now, people still die of other causes in the middle of a war. And just a couple of days ago the U.N halved the number of women and children casualties and accepted they were just parroting Hamas’ numbers, like you’re doing, until they had to admit those are false. So definitely not a “genocide”.
If Israel wanted to commit a genocide against palestinians, why wouldn’t they start with the 2 million living in Israel? They are 20% of the Israeli population and have equal rights. They serve in government, the Supreme Court, and the IDF. An Arab judge even sentenced a Jewish former president to jail.
“Carpet bombing”? Hardly. Every target has been a legitimate military target according to international law. It’s proven that Hamas uses hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian homes to hide themselves or weapons, to make entries to the mikes of terror tunnels underneath these buildings. Therefore those buildings become legitimate military targets. John Spencer is an expert in urban warfare and this is what he has to say.
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-implem ... on-1865613
“ Israel Implemented More Measures to Prevent Civilian Casualties Than Any Other Nation in History”
And regarding the “carpet bombing” lie: ‘ The Israeli Defense Force has used many types of PGMs to avoid civilian harm, including the use of munitions like small diameter bombs (SDBs), as well as technologies and tactics that increase the accuracy of non-PGMs. Israel has also employed a tactic when a military has air supremacy called dive bombing, as well as gathering pre-strike intelligence on the presence of civilians from satellite imagery, scans of cell phone presence, and other target observation techniques. All of this is to do more pinpoint targeted to avoid civilian deaths. In other words, the simplistic notion that a military must use more PGMs versus non-PGMs in a war is false.“
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-cr ... on-1883286
“ In my long career studying and advising on urban warfare for the U.S. military, I've never known an army to take such measures to attend to the enemy's civilian population, especially while simultaneously combating the enemy in the very same buildings. In fact, by my analysis, Israel has implemented more precautions to prevent civilian harm than any military in history—above and beyond what international law requires and more than the U.S. did in its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:36 am I mean, are we actively funding Yemen? Or Iran? You can't see a difference? Our tax dollars are supporting a genocide, people are allowed to not like that. If we were sending billions of dollars to Yemen so they can carpet bomb 30,000 homosexuals, I'm sure you'd see more protesting.
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