Dave Portnoy unloads on anti-Israel college protesters: 'I wouldn't hire any of these activists

[WellPreserved]

I can certainly understand that. But these same profilings existed before these protests. We saw it after 9/11 and on. My husband's colleague experienced it after the Boston bombings.
It is unfortunate, but these actions of rioting and property destruction only furthers whatever profiling and prejudices already exist towards the Arab immigrants and now extend to Arab Americans , if they don't already exist.

His comment re the protesters is no different than many other potential employers in this matter.
Mo employer wants to hire a potential disrupter or someone that will be difficult to work with. We can go into what ifs and what abouts or how woulds, but this is how the protesters are seen once they crossed over to destroying property ( spray painting divest and some other crap) and rioting and trespassing ( like taking over a building).
Just like the tattoo chic that complained she was nit hired bc of her horns and facial tats, and some on here said an employer has a right to pick and choose which employees they hire to represent their company, well same applies here.
Portnoy has done some good lately. He raised thousands fir the families of 2 policemen killed in the line of duty. And he adopted an abused pitbull, Miss peaches. He has raised over $400k for rescues across the country. He is bringing awareness to the animals in need of rescue that are usually killed and overlooked at shelters- usually pitties, german shepherds, dobermans, etc.
This is why he's being given a voice despite the stupid shit he's said in the past.
As for me, I'm all there for the famous Miss Peaches videos as the pitty lives her best life Sge's currently romping on the beach in Nantucket

The reason I called it virtue signaling is because while perhaps not the intent, practically speaking is that unless a protestor was caught on video, arrested, or expelled, there is no way for an employer to know if or if they weren't involved in protest.

My worry is that employers will enact policy that leads to racial profiling in their efforts to bar protestors, i.e., Arab American graduates from Columbia will internally be labelled "unemployable".

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

[Momto2boys973]

Why do Jews around the world are discriminated against after October 7th?

I can certainly understand that. But these same profilings existed before these protests. We saw it after 9/11 and on. My husband's colleague experienced it after the Boston bombings.
It is unfortunate, but these actions of rioting and property destruction only furthers whatever profiling and prejudices already exist towards the Arab immigrants and now extend to Arab Americans , if they don't already exist.

The reason I called it virtue signaling is because while perhaps not the intent, practically speaking is that unless a protestor was caught on video, arrested, or expelled, there is no way for an employer to know if or if they weren't involved in protest.

My worry is that employers will enact policy that leads to racial profiling in their efforts to bar protestors, i.e., Arab American graduates from Columbia will internally be labelled "unemployable".

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

[SouthernIslander]

I can certainly understand that. But these same profilings existed before these protests. We saw it after 9/11 and on. My husband's colleague experienced it after the Boston bombings.
It is unfortunate, but these actions of rioting and property destruction only furthers whatever profiling and prejudices already exist towards the Arab immigrants and now extend to Arab Americans , if they don't already exist.

The reason I called it virtue signaling is because while perhaps not the intent, practically speaking is that unless a protestor was caught on video, arrested, or expelled, there is no way for an employer to know if or if they weren't involved in protest.

My worry is that employers will enact policy that leads to racial profiling in their efforts to bar protestors, i.e., Arab American graduates from Columbia will internally be labelled "unemployable".

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

People were lumping them all in one category. I remember the ignorance got pretty bad after 9/11.

[cgd5112]

Because of their heritage- Arab, which is automatically linked to being muslim. My husband's colleague is Persian and Jewish. Her name is Persian. She was born in Iran and immigrated to the US with her family when she was in middle school. Right after 9/11 many muslims feared for their lives because "patriots" targeted them and called them terrorists, as we all know. When the Boston bombings occurred, and one of the brothers was brought to Beth Israel trauma unit, the trauma team had Jewish physicians trying to save his life. They were later asked how they felt about trying to save the life of a terrorist ( the surviving brother later stated they were self radicalized and made bombs by some mag from the Arab Peninsula). The physicians answer that they had no idea who he was as is always the case with trauma patients and that they would not have done anything different. They would've still tried to save his life. BUT the general public heard Arab Peninsula, Al Qaeda, and of course Islam/Muslim. So, if you were Arab/Arab name/ etc...well there you go.

Prejudices exist. And when a group calls attention to itself in a way that is seen as negative, anti-American ( like the flag incident on campus), we know how that's going to play out. Some of these kids get their info from tikTok ffs. They seem to have forgotten or not know that Palestine and Hamas is linked to the terrorist attacks on US soil. So yeah, it is going to piss off a lot of Americans. Especially when they go for the US flag.

And all this bs about divesting... Are these kids not getting financial aid, scholarships directly from the school? So they divest from Israeli companies and wealthy Jewish/Israeli donors stop donating, now what? Go for the US government to divest from Israel financially as well? How does it affect not only the US and Universities' bottom line but the students who also benefit from these investment returns? The financial markets are complicated. For these students to think it is just a matter of divesting and that it will not have a direct effect on them is naive at best.

What's next on their ridiculous demands? Fire all the Jewish professors and stafff and faculty? Look at the demands in Michigan re connections to the Israeli University.
These demands are petulant, naive, and radicalized and ill informed, be it purposefully or otherwise. Regardless, it needs to stop. Protest with your money and drop out. Good luck finding ANY reputable university that is not supported by US government dollars, and/orglobally academically and financially connected,

Want to change the world? Go volunteer at the frontlines. My husband's colleague did on the Israel side, because he is Jewish and has family there. Love Palestine? GO help them get out of Rafah and into some refugee camp. Send clothes and whatever else is needed, instead of asking for Taco Bell deliveries and DoorDash because you don't have two nickels to rub together and are so entitled to ask for handouts while asking the very people who are supporting your education to divest!

Oh and by the way the you is the protester, not you WP

I can certainly understand that. But these same profilings existed before these protests. We saw it after 9/11 and on. My husband's colleague experienced it after the Boston bombings.
It is unfortunate, but these actions of rioting and property destruction only furthers whatever profiling and prejudices already exist towards the Arab immigrants and now extend to Arab Americans , if they don't already exist.

The reason I called it virtue signaling is because while perhaps not the intent, practically speaking is that unless a protestor was caught on video, arrested, or expelled, there is no way for an employer to know if or if they weren't involved in protest.

My worry is that employers will enact policy that leads to racial profiling in their efforts to bar protestors, i.e., Arab American graduates from Columbia will internally be labelled "unemployable".

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

[WellPreserved]

I can certainly understand that. But these same profilings existed before these protests. We saw it after 9/11 and on. My husband's colleague experienced it after the Boston bombings.
It is unfortunate, but these actions of rioting and property destruction only furthers whatever profiling and prejudices already exist towards the Arab immigrants and now extend to Arab Americans , if they don't already exist.

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

People were lumping them all in one category. I remember the ignorance got pretty bad after 9/11.

What I remember is the "hate" and discrimination was particularly against Muslims (kind of like what the Jewish community is facing now) and I certainly didn't then or now agree with that.

I am all for employers barring employment for protestors who were arrested, caught on video spouting anti-semitic hate speech, or expelled for their participation. I see NO justification for barring entire groups whether that's the Arab American community because of the current protests, the Black community because of the violence at BLM protests, or the Jewish community because of the war in Gaza. It's rather disconcerting to see that this would be considered justifiable by some in this group.

[WellPreserved]

Because of their heritage- Arab, which is automatically linked to being muslim. My husband's colleague is Persian and Jewish. Her name is Persian. She was born in Iran and immigrated to the US with her family when she was in middle school. Right after 9/11 many muslims feared for their lives because "patriots" targeted them and called them terrorists, as we all know. When the Boston bombings occurred, and one of the brothers was brought to Beth Israel trauma unit, the trauma team had Jewish physicians trying to save his life. They were later asked how they felt about trying to save the life of a terrorist ( the surviving brother later stated they were self radicalized and made bombs by some mag from the Arab Peninsula). The physicians answer that they had no idea who he was as is always the case with trauma patients and that they would not have done anything different. They would've still tried to save his life. BUT the general public heard Arab Peninsula, Al Qaeda, and of course Islam/Muslim. So, if you were Arab/Arab name/ etc...well there you go.

Prejudices exist. And when a group calls attention to itself in a way that is seen as negative, anti-American ( like the flag incident on campus), we know how that's going to play out. Some of these kids get their info from tikTok ffs. They seem to have forgotten or not know that Palestine and Hamas is linked to the terrorist attacks on US soil. So yeah, it is going to piss off a lot of Americans. Especially when they go for the US flag.

And all this bs about divesting... Are these kids not getting financial aid, scholarships directly from the school? So they divest from Israeli companies and wealthy Jewish/Israeli donors stop donating, now what? Go for the US government to divest from Israel financially as well? How does it affect not only the US and Universities' bottom line but the students who also benefit from these investment returns? The financial markets are complicated. For these students to think it is just a matter of divesting and that it will not have a direct effect on them is naive at best.

What's next on their ridiculous demands? Fire all the Jewish professors and stafff and faculty? Look at the demands in Michigan re connections to the Israeli University.
These demands are petulant, naive, and radicalized and ill informed, be it purposefully or otherwise. Regardless, it needs to stop. Protest with your money and drop out. Good luck finding ANY reputable university that is not supported by US government dollars, and/orglobally academically and financially connected,

Want to change the world? Go volunteer at the frontlines. My husband's colleague did on the Israel side, because he is Jewish and has family there. Love Palestine? GO help them get out of Rafah and into some refugee camp. Send clothes and whatever else is needed, instead of asking for Taco Bell deliveries and DoorDash because you don't have two nickels to rub together and are so entitled to ask for handouts while asking the very people who are supporting your education to divest!

Oh and by the way the you is the protester, not you WP

I can certainly understand that. But these same profilings existed before these protests. We saw it after 9/11 and on. My husband's colleague experienced it after the Boston bombings.
It is unfortunate, but these actions of rioting and property destruction only furthers whatever profiling and prejudices already exist towards the Arab immigrants and now extend to Arab Americans , if they don't already exist.

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

The BDS movement started in the early 2000s so let's not pretend that this is something novel.

Many of the BDS protest movement organizers saw success in the anti-Apartheid movement of the 80s and this is what they are acting on. I don't agree with the movement but think it's disingenuous to paint it as comprised of petulant and naive young adults.

Anti-semitic speech is never okay and should not be tolerated. Anti (insert demographic here) speech is never okay. Protesting human rights abuses, again IMO, should never NOT be okay even if protestors are misguided.

[SouthernIslander]

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

People were lumping them all in one category. I remember the ignorance got pretty bad after 9/11.

What I remember is the "hate" and discrimination was particularly against Muslims (kind of like what the Jewish community is facing now) and I certainly didn't then or now agree with that.

I am all for employers barring employment for protestors who were arrested, caught on video spouting anti-semitic hate speech, or expelled for their participation. I see NO justification for barring entire groups whether that's the Arab American community because of the current protests, the Black community because of the violence at BLM protests, or the Jewish community because of the war in Gaza. It's rather disconcerting to see that this would be considered justifiable by some in this group.

It got nasty in my area at the time. If you (general) even looked like you were Arab decent, you were treated like a terrorist…especially in airports.

I wouldn't agree with barring people for peacefully protesting.

[cgd5112]

I agree with some of your points. In particular protesting human rights abuses. I agree we all have every right to protest. Peaceful protests will garner more support and attention than how these students are going about it. Their reason for protest? Human rights abuses. Their divest demands? Fucken stupid.

So this misguidedness leaves everyone where? How misguided do they have to be before they are seen as many in the general public see these protesters/rioters?

They are not camping out in front of Israeli embassies or the The White House, Lincoln Memorial, etc. They are asking , no, demanding divesting. They are not just asking the US government to stop sending weapons to Israel against Palestinians. They are accusing Universities of funding genocide and apartheid. They are blurring the lines of institutions of higher learning with government institutions and government itself. Anyone protesting Iran for funding Hamas who lead to this horrific humanitarian situation in Palestine?

In the street, when someone is walking along and suddenly gets attacked, they fight back to defend themselves. If the attacker just got one punch in, one sweep, or two, it doesn't matter. The person attacked is going to return the strikes with everything they got until 1. They cause enough damage to create distance and can get away or 2. The attacker is down and disabled enough not to get up and pursue. Israel was attacked.The attack is heinous. They are striking back and have chosen option two; to attack until the attacker is disabled and cannot rise to pursue.

Because of their heritage- Arab, which is automatically linked to being muslim. My husband's colleague is Persian and Jewish. Her name is Persian. She was born in Iran and immigrated to the US with her family when she was in middle school. Right after 9/11 many muslims feared for their lives because "patriots" targeted them and called them terrorists, as we all know. When the Boston bombings occurred, and one of the brothers was brought to Beth Israel trauma unit, the trauma team had Jewish physicians trying to save his life. They were later asked how they felt about trying to save the life of a terrorist ( the surviving brother later stated they were self radicalized and made bombs by some mag from the Arab Peninsula). The physicians answer that they had no idea who he was as is always the case with trauma patients and that they would not have done anything different. They would've still tried to save his life. BUT the general public heard Arab Peninsula, Al Qaeda, and of course Islam/Muslim. So, if you were Arab/Arab name/ etc...well there you go.

Prejudices exist. And when a group calls attention to itself in a way that is seen as negative, anti-American ( like the flag incident on campus), we know how that's going to play out. Some of these kids get their info from tikTok ffs. They seem to have forgotten or not know that Palestine and Hamas is linked to the terrorist attacks on US soil. So yeah, it is going to piss off a lot of Americans. Especially when they go for the US flag.

And all this bs about divesting... Are these kids not getting financial aid, scholarships directly from the school? So they divest from Israeli companies and wealthy Jewish/Israeli donors stop donating, now what? Go for the US government to divest from Israel financially as well? How does it affect not only the US and Universities' bottom line but the students who also benefit from these investment returns? The financial markets are complicated. For these students to think it is just a matter of divesting and that it will not have a direct effect on them is naive at best.

What's next on their ridiculous demands? Fire all the Jewish professors and stafff and faculty? Look at the demands in Michigan re connections to the Israeli University.
These demands are petulant, naive, and radicalized and ill informed, be it purposefully or otherwise. Regardless, it needs to stop. Protest with your money and drop out. Good luck finding ANY reputable university that is not supported by US government dollars, and/orglobally academically and financially connected,

Want to change the world? Go volunteer at the frontlines. My husband's colleague did on the Israel side, because he is Jewish and has family there. Love Palestine? GO help them get out of Rafah and into some refugee camp. Send clothes and whatever else is needed, instead of asking for Taco Bell deliveries and DoorDash because you don't have two nickels to rub together and are so entitled to ask for handouts while asking the very people who are supporting your education to divest!

Oh and by the way the you is the protester, not you WP

Why would Arab Americans (the majority of whom are Christian) be discriminated against after 9/11 or Boston bombings?

The BDS movement started in the early 2000s so let's not pretend that this is something novel.

Many of the BDS protest movement organizers saw success in the anti-Apartheid movement of the 80s and this is what they are acting on. I don't agree with the movement but think it's disingenuous to paint it as comprised of petulant and naive young adults.

Anti-semitic speech is never okay and should not be tolerated. Anti (insert demographic here) speech is never okay. Protesting human rights abuses, again IMO, should never NOT be okay even if protestors are misguided.

[AZOldGal66]

Adding just to go along with the current conversation in this thread...

"UNITED STATES" https://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/usahate/usa1102-04.htm

[Della]

I can certainly understand that. But these same profilings existed before these protests. We saw it after 9/11 and on. My husband's colleague experienced it after the Boston bombings.
It is unfortunate, but these actions of rioting and property destruction only furthers whatever profiling and prejudices already exist towards the Arab immigrants and now extend to Arab Americans , if they don't already exist.

His comment re the protesters is no different than many other potential employers in this matter.
Mo employer wants to hire a potential disrupter or someone that will be difficult to work with. We can go into what ifs and what abouts or how woulds, but this is how the protesters are seen once they crossed over to destroying property ( spray painting divest and some other crap) and rioting and trespassing ( like taking over a building).
Just like the tattoo chic that complained she was nit hired bc of her horns and facial tats, and some on here said an employer has a right to pick and choose which employees they hire to represent their company, well same applies here.
Portnoy has done some good lately. He raised thousands fir the families of 2 policemen killed in the line of duty. And he adopted an abused pitbull, Miss peaches. He has raised over $400k for rescues across the country. He is bringing awareness to the animals in need of rescue that are usually killed and overlooked at shelters- usually pitties, german shepherds, dobermans, etc.
This is why he's being given a voice despite the stupid shit he's said in the past.
As for me, I'm all there for the famous Miss Peaches videos as the pitty lives her best life Sge's currently romping on the beach in Nantucket

The reason I called it virtue signaling is because while perhaps not the intent, practically speaking is that unless a protestor was caught on video, arrested, or expelled, there is no way for an employer to know if or if they weren't involved in protest.

My worry is that employers will enact policy that leads to racial profiling in their efforts to bar protestors, i.e., Arab American graduates from Columbia will internally be labelled "unemployable".

That's quite a myopic view.