Florida settles with Miami hotel over drag queen Christmas show

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Quorra2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:08 pm
SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:45 pm
Quorra2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:29 pm

Are movie theaters that allow accompanied minors into movies with a R rating for nudity, sexual situations, etc fined as well?
If the movie is rated NC-17, yes…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ated_films
I didn’t see anything on that Wikipedia page that stated Florida has fined theaters. Also I wasn’t talking NC-17 because nudity, sexual suggestion, sexual situations, and ‘lewd’ behavior isn’t limited only to NC-17.
They can be fined $500 each time they do.
No it’s not limited to NC-17, but laws do lean more on the strict side when it’s live shows vs. movies…



I don’t think anyone would care if Dame Edna and Mrs. Doubtfire were having a show kids were at, but it is much different when prosthetic vaginas are part of the show…
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SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:08 pm
Quorra2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:08 pm
SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:45 pm

If the movie is rated NC-17, yes…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ated_films
I didn’t see anything on that Wikipedia page that stated Florida has fined theaters. Also I wasn’t talking NC-17 because nudity, sexual suggestion, sexual situations, and ‘lewd’ behavior isn’t limited only to NC-17.
They can be fined $500 each time they do.
No it’s not limited to NC-17, but laws do lean more on the strict side when it’s live shows vs. movies…



I don’t think anyone would care if Dame Edna and Mrs. Doubtfire were having a show kids were at, but it is much different when prosthetic vaginas are part of the show…
Were you at the Women’s March?
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WellPreserved wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:34 pm
SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:08 pm
Quorra2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:08 pm

I didn’t see anything on that Wikipedia page that stated Florida has fined theaters. Also I wasn’t talking NC-17 because nudity, sexual suggestion, sexual situations, and ‘lewd’ behavior isn’t limited only to NC-17.
They can be fined $500 each time they do.
No it’s not limited to NC-17, but laws do lean more on the strict side when it’s live shows vs. movies…



I don’t think anyone would care if Dame Edna and Mrs. Doubtfire were having a show kids were at, but it is much different when prosthetic vaginas are part of the show…
Were you at the Women’s March?
I’m not a big marching type of person…

If you’re referring to the Womens March that was focused on abortion rights, I have had three in person lobbying conversations with our state representative and house representative.
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WellPreserved wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:34 pm
SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:08 pm I don’t think anyone would care if Dame Edna and Mrs. Doubtfire were having a show kids were at, but it is much different when prosthetic vaginas are part of the show…
Were you at the Women’s March?
I was, and I'm reminded of this marcher I photographed in Denver. No one seemed to think this would hurt children.
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SallyMae wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:01 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:34 pm
SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:08 pm I don’t think anyone would care if Dame Edna and Mrs. Doubtfire were having a show kids were at, but it is much different when prosthetic vaginas are part of the show…
Were you at the Women’s March?
I was, and I'm reminded of this marcher I photographed in Denver. No one seemed to think this would hurt children.
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I was in DC and I remember seeing lots of women dressed like vaginas. Days of discussion on CM about it with moms complaining it was “stupid” but I don’t remember “hurting children” as part of the conversation!
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SallyMae wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:01 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:34 pm
SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:08 pm I don’t think anyone would care if Dame Edna and Mrs. Doubtfire were having a show kids were at, but it is much different when prosthetic vaginas are part of the show…
Were you at the Women’s March?
I was, and I'm reminded of this marcher I photographed in Denver. No one seemed to think this would hurt children.
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I think that kind of behavior definitely hurt the cause.

I for sure didn’t want my daughters thinking that dressing the up like a vagina was a way to fight against the loss of their rights…

I don’t think turning a very serious issue into a mockery was anything but a hinderance to the cause …we seriously went from the kinds of womens marches in the early 1900’s and civil rights marches in the 60’s where everyone marching was actually out there fighting for their rights, getting tantamount to tortured at some marches and during arrests, changing the minds of the voters because they saw how much of these causes truly impacted American freedom… to grown men frolicking around in a vagina costume while they giggle like schoolgirls…and then we’re shocked when the voters that see these displays lose all inkling that this even matters and we lose our rights.

Thanks for the thought I guess but it delegitimized the cause so much that women are now bleeding out from ruptured uteruses when they can’t get abortions, lost agency over their bodies and lost the ability to fully control their reproductive future…
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SlimShady wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:25 am
SallyMae wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:01 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:34 pm

Were you at the Women’s March?
I was, and I'm reminded of this marcher I photographed in Denver. No one seemed to think this would hurt children.
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I think that kind of behavior definitely hurt the cause.

I for sure didn’t want my daughters thinking that dressing the up like a vagina was a way to fight against the loss of their rights…

I don’t think turning a very serious issue into a mockery was anything but a hinderance to the cause …we seriously went from the kinds of womens marches in the early 1900’s and civil rights marches in the 60’s where everyone marching was actually out there fighting for their rights, getting tantamount to tortured at some marches and during arrests, changing the minds of the voters because they saw how much of these causes truly impacted American freedom… to grown men frolicking around in a vagina costume while they giggle like schoolgirls…and then we’re shocked when the voters that see these displays lose all inkling that this even matters and we lose our rights.

Thanks for the thought I guess but it delegitimized the cause so much that women are now bleeding out from ruptured uteruses when they can’t get abortions, lost agency over their bodies and lost the ability to fully control their reproductive future…
Women are being forced to be on the brink of death to get abortions in states where it’s illegal not because of costumes at protests, but because Republican lawmakers either don’t care, or do care, but are too scared to stand up against pro-life lobbyist groups who helped draft and pass these laws, and who won’t hesitate to primary Republicans they see as insufficiently restrictive on abortion: https://www.propublica.org/article/abor ... alth-risks
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SlimShady wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:25 am I think that kind of behavior definitely hurt the cause.

I for sure didn’t want my daughters thinking that dressing the up like a vagina was a way to fight against the loss of their rights…

I don’t think turning a very serious issue into a mockery was anything but a hinderance to the cause …we seriously went from the kinds of womens marches in the early 1900’s and civil rights marches in the 60’s where everyone marching was actually out there fighting for their rights, getting tantamount to tortured at some marches and during arrests, changing the minds of the voters because they saw how much of these causes truly impacted American freedom… to grown men frolicking around in a vagina costume while they giggle like schoolgirls…and then we’re shocked when the voters that see these displays lose all inkling that this even matters and we lose our rights.

Thanks for the thought I guess but it delegitimized the cause so much that women are now bleeding out from ruptured uteruses when they can’t get abortions, lost agency over their bodies and lost the ability to fully control their reproductive future…
First of all, it's not a guy. It's totally a woman.

Secondly, this did not delegitimize the cause, and blaming this woman for the loss of abortion rights is awful.
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SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:08 pm
Quorra2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:08 pm
SlimShady wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:45 pm

If the movie is rated NC-17, yes…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ated_films
I didn’t see anything on that Wikipedia page that stated Florida has fined theaters. Also I wasn’t talking NC-17 because nudity, sexual suggestion, sexual situations, and ‘lewd’ behavior isn’t limited only to NC-17.
They can be fined $500 each time they do.
No it’s not limited to NC-17, but laws do lean more on the strict side when it’s live shows vs. movies



I don’t think anyone would care if Dame Edna and Mrs. Doubtfire were having a show kids were at, but it is much different when prosthetic vaginas are part of the show…
But that's ridiculous. Why should it matter if it's live vs on a big screen? When there are sexually suggestive scenes/content, we allow parents the right to choose for their own children when it's on a screen. But if it's the same exact kind of content in a live show, suddenly only the gov't knows what's best for our children?

No. That just proves that these laws such as the one in Florida have nothing to do with protecting children and have everything to do with restricting art form. Anyone who thinks it's about protecting children has blinders on, blinders so horribly bad they can't even see what's right in front of their own nose.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/desantis-str ... en-present

Is this the same event? The story sounds familiar, but just had time to google it.

Unless this article is exaggerating, my opinion on this probably won’t be popular. I am really tired of the media making me feel like I have to chose between two fucked up decisions. The far right needs to quit picking on LGBT like they can’t be trusted around children and give worse behavior a pass. The far-left needs to quit expecting people to condone sexually reckless behavior like it does not come with consequences.

We won’t always agree but it needs to be more reasonable than using laws to harass certain groups that you (general) don’t like and expecting people to accept adults feeling comfortable simulating masturbation around minors.

WTF? It is like everything is taken to an extreme now.
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