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Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 pm
by Slimshandy
SallyMae wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:11 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:54 pm That sounds better than us having to pay for their room and board…
It depends; are you trying to make society a better place, or just cause as much suffering as you can to those who you feel deserve it?
As I said…
Depends on the crime.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:59 pm
by WellPreserved
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 pm
SallyMae wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:11 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:54 pm That sounds better than us having to pay for their room and board…
It depends; are you trying to make society a better place, or just cause as much suffering as you can to those who you feel deserve it?
As I said…
Depends on the crime.
How do you feel about those cited in the article?

Is it worth sticking it to the 88% of incarcerated individuals to stick it to the 12% of incarcerated individuals?

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:01 pm
by Slimshandy
WellPreserved wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:59 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 pm
SallyMae wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:11 pm

It depends; are you trying to make society a better place, or just cause as much suffering as you can to those who you feel deserve it?
As I said…
Depends on the crime.
How do you feel about those cited in the article?

Is it worth sticking it to the 88% of incarcerated individuals to stick it to the 12% of incarcerated individuals?
The ones who committed “regular” crimes that we could all imagine someone getting caught up in… no, they should be let go without being charged.

The ones who committed horrific crimes… I just couldn’t care less if they got a bill.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:36 pm
by WellPreserved
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:01 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:59 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 pm

As I said…
Depends on the crime.
How do you feel about those cited in the article?

Is it worth sticking it to the 88% of incarcerated individuals to stick it to the 12% of incarcerated individuals?
The ones who committed “regular” crimes that we could all imagine someone getting caught up in… no, they should be let go without being charged.

The ones who committed horrific crimes… I just couldn’t care less if they got a bill.
Our legal laws don't work that way, including Florida. If you want to deny the 12% of incarcerated early release, then you are going to have to deny the 88% who are convicted of "regular" crimes. If you are going to charge 12% of incarcerated for their full sentence, then you are going to have to charge the other 88%, Again, is that worth it?

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:22 pm
by RIZZY
They often already have to pay court costs and other fees associated with legal troubles. I would be more keen to requiring them have a prison job, allowing them to earn a wage, and deducting fees from there, so long as it still allows them to get their basic necessities.

I don't understand the part about billing the next prison who uses the room. Does that mean that if someone is released and doesn't pay their bill, then the next person who takes the room pays their bill and the person before them? Because if so, that makes zero sense.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:08 pm
by WellPreserved
RIZZY wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:22 pm They often already have to pay court costs and other fees associated with legal troubles. I would be more keen to requiring them have a prison job, allowing them to earn a wage, and deducting fees from there, so long as it still allows them to get their basic necessities.

I don't understand the part about billing the next prison who uses the room. Does that mean that if someone is released and doesn't pay their bill, then the next person who takes the room pays their bill and the person before them? Because if so, that makes zero sense.
Florida is billing inmates for the entire length of their sentence. If they are released early, they have to continue to pay room and board. If the bed is filled by another inmate, then both are paying room and board.

Room and board is $1600 a month so requiring inmates to pay even after release is cruel and sets them up for failure.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:30 am
by Della
WellPreserved wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:08 pm
RIZZY wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:22 pm They often already have to pay court costs and other fees associated with legal troubles. I would be more keen to requiring them have a prison job, allowing them to earn a wage, and deducting fees from there, so long as it still allows them to get their basic necessities.

I don't understand the part about billing the next prison who uses the room. Does that mean that if someone is released and doesn't pay their bill, then the next person who takes the room pays their bill and the person before them? Because if so, that makes zero sense.
Florida is billing inmates for the entire length of their sentence. If they are released early, they have to continue to pay room and board. If the bed is filled by another inmate, then both are paying room and board.

Room and board is $1600 a month so requiring inmates to pay even after release is cruel and sets them up for failure.
It also keeps them from getting their voting rights back (on a felony conviction). They have to pay ALL fines, FEES, and restitution.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:37 am
by Della