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Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 am
by WellPreserved
"It's called "pay-to-stay", charging inmates for their prison stay, like a hotel they were forced to book. Florida law says that cost, $50 a day, is based on the person's sentence. Even if they are released early, paying for a cell they no longer occupy, and regardless of their ability to pay.

Not only can the state bill an inmate the $50 a day even after they are released, Florida can also impose a new bill on the next occupant of that bed, potentially allowing the state to double, triple, or quadruple charge for the same bed."

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/loca ... arceration

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:06 am
by Della
Florida Sheriffs Association
https://www.flsheriffs.org › ...PDF
Subsistence Fees & Collection in Florida Jails

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am
by Lexy
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Maine
Pay-to-Stay Charges

Room and Board: When a person is sentenced to incarceration in a county jail, the sentencing court shall consider and may assess as part of the sentence a reimbursement fee to help defray the expenses of the offender's room and board. The fee may not exceed the cost of incarcerating the offender or $80 per day, whichever is less. Ability to pay is considered.

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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... art-policy

There is a map in the above link that you can see most states have pay to stay.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am
by Olioxenfree
Sooooo, let’s take people who are already at higher risk to commit a crime and add crippling debt to raise those statistics even higher that they will reoffend. Seems like a really great plan.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:16 am
by WellPreserved
Lexy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am [quote
Maine
Pay-to-Stay Charges

Room and Board: When a person is sentenced to incarceration in a county jail, the sentencing court shall consider and may assess as part of the sentence a reimbursement fee to help defray the expenses of the offender's room and board. The fee may not exceed the cost of incarcerating the offender or $80 per day, whichever is less. Ability to pay is considered.

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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... art-policy

There is a map in the above link that you can see most states have pay to stay.
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Do you think that fee is appropriate regardless of how many states apply it?

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:20 am
by Lexy
WellPreserved wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:16 am
Lexy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am [quote
Maine
Pay-to-Stay Charges

Room and Board: When a person is sentenced to incarceration in a county jail, the sentencing court shall consider and may assess as part of the sentence a reimbursement fee to help defray the expenses of the offender's room and board. The fee may not exceed the cost of incarcerating the offender or $80 per day, whichever is less. Ability to pay is considered.

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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... art-policy

There is a map in the above link that you can see most states have pay to stay.
Do you think that fee is appropriate regardless of how many states apply it?
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If pay to stay deters them from committing the same crime over and over I am all for it.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:20 am
by WellPreserved
Lexy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am [quote
Maine
Pay-to-Stay Charges

Room and Board: When a person is sentenced to incarceration in a county jail, the sentencing court shall consider and may assess as part of the sentence a reimbursement fee to help defray the expenses of the offender's room and board. The fee may not exceed the cost of incarcerating the offender or $80 per day, whichever is less. Ability to pay is considered.

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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... art-policy

There is a map in the above link that you can see most states have pay to stay.
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Also, you are referring to the pay-to-stay fee that most states have while a prisoner is incarcerated. Florida has required former prisoners to pay even after release. What other states do this?

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:21 am
by jessilin0113
That's actually appalling.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:23 am
by WellPreserved
jessilin0113 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:21 am That's actually appalling.
It really is.

I'll add that our whole prison system sucks, especially for those without means. This example is just one that sucks a lot.

Re: Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:39 am
by Della
Lexy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am [quote
Maine
Pay-to-Stay Charges

Room and Board: When a person is sentenced to incarceration in a county jail, the sentencing court shall consider and may assess as part of the sentence a reimbursement fee to help defray the expenses of the offender's room and board. The fee may not exceed the cost of incarcerating the offender or $80 per day, whichever is less. Ability to pay is considered.

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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... art-policy

There is a map in the above link that you can see most states have pay to stay.
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I read it's about 40 states and it started happening in the eighties during the rise in crime during that era. I don't see how it has helped with recidivism rates.