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Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:37 pm
by AZOldGal66
Della wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:25 pm
AZOldGal66 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:44 am Bottom line, these were not protests that had legal permits in SF. They were planned and coordinated with other protests yesterday from around the world.

The SF/Golden Gate Bridge protest in particular lasted for hours, inconveniencing many, including people who had medical appointments.

Want to make a statement and be taken seriously as well as respected? Don't do THIS.

"38 Pro-Palestinian protesters arrested after shutdown of Golden Gate Bridge, I-880 in Oakland, CHP says - ABC7 San Francisco" https://abc7news.com/pro-palestinian-pr ... /14668534/
If this were pro-Israeli groups, I believe your attitude would be entirely different.

We all have things we support.

"Organizers say these protests are a part of A15, a worldwide economic blockade in solidarity with Palestine and calling for an arms embargo and an end to U.S. taxpayer funding for Israel. Monday is the tax deadline for most Americans."

https://abc7news.com/pro-palestinian-pr ... /14668534/
Where do you get your arrogance from, Della, to make the assumptions you do on the stances of other's?

To answer your feckless assumption, I would feel the same exact way as I do now if it were Pro Israel unauthorized protests.

I can't take you seriously anymore, Della.

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:46 pm
by Slimshandy
Della wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:21 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:12 pm
Della wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:14 pm

Did you read the article re "Myth"?

I think protesting by blocking emergency vehicles is already an arrestable offense, as it should be.
I did…

Do you think long ambulance wait times in Britain have anything to do with protesters blocking emergency vehicles in America?
I don't know. Are there any studies on ambulances being held up by protests in America?
What kind of study would you want to see?

What happens when an ambulance can’t get to the hospital in an emergency?

Whether or not it happens enough to be a relevant issue?

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:53 pm
by Della
Slimshandy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:46 pm
Della wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:21 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:12 pm

I did…

Do you think long ambulance wait times in Britain have anything to do with protesters blocking emergency vehicles in America?
I don't know. Are there any studies on ambulances being held up by protests in America?
What kind of study would you want to see?

What happens when an ambulance can’t get to the hospital in an emergency?

Whether or not it happens enough to be a relevant issue?
A study to prove your assertions.


For last year and this year's incidents:

"During last year's protest, UCSF transplant organs were delayed by the Bay Bridge protest. On Monday, the San Francisco Fire Department said they didn't get any 911 emergency calls but they were ready.

"If there is an emergency the fire department can coordinate with law enforcement and possibly get an escort for closed lanes on the opposing side of the roadway to reach you and extricate you safely and move you out of harm way and get you into the ambulance or out of the situation if necessary, said Justin Schorr, rescue captain with SFFD."

https://abc7news.com/pro-palestinian-pr ... /14668534/

I don't think this pearl clutching is about safety.

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:00 pm
by Slimshandy
Della wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:53 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:46 pm
Della wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:21 pm

I don't know. Are there any studies on ambulances being held up by protests in America?
What kind of study would you want to see?

What happens when an ambulance can’t get to the hospital in an emergency?

Whether or not it happens enough to be a relevant issue?
A study to prove your assertions.


For last year and this year's incidents:

"During last year's protest, UCSF transplant organs were delayed by the Bay Bridge protest. On Monday, the San Francisco Fire Department said they didn't get any 911 emergency calls but they were ready.

"If there is an emergency the fire department can coordinate with law enforcement and possibly get an escort for closed lanes on the opposing side of the roadway to reach you and extricate you safely and move you out of harm way and get you into the ambulance or out of the situation if necessary, said Justin Schorr, rescue captain with SFFD."

https://abc7news.com/pro-palestinian-pr ... /14668534/

I don't think this pearl clutching is about safety.
So…


You want a study to prove that road blockades can impede emergency vehicles from getting where they need to go in the shortest amount of time possible.




“It was an orchestrated event that they put forth,” California Highway Patrol Chief Don Goodbrand said. “They blocked three separate locations on freeways. They prevented law enforcement, paramedics, ambulances from getting to their points of destination.”

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/04/16/us/p ... s-gaza-war

It might be “pearl clutching” to you… but again, I’d support full on murder charges if someone dies from being blocked from reaching the hospital.

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:03 pm
by Slimshandy
I'm supposed to be at UCSF at 9:30am, if I don't make it by 1 PM, they will have to reschedule I'm supposed to have colon surgery," said O'Donnely.

Rachel McKim from Larkspur was late for her medical procedure.

"I'm headed to the city for stem cell replacement. They're frozen I have to get there before they thaw. I'm feeling frustrated, I support the right for people to protest but if It causes thousands of people disturbance, it isn't the right way to go about it," said McKim.

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:06 pm
by Slimshandy
What are we all thinking happens if an organ on its way to a transplant recipient doesn’t get there quick enough?

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:09 pm
by SouthernIslander
I wouldn’t run over anybody but blocking the road is rude and selfish AF.

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:11 pm
by Della
Slimshandy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:00 pm
Della wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:53 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:46 pm

What kind of study would you want to see?

What happens when an ambulance can’t get to the hospital in an emergency?

Whether or not it happens enough to be a relevant issue?
A study to prove your assertions.


For last year and this year's incidents:

"During last year's protest, UCSF transplant organs were delayed by the Bay Bridge protest. On Monday, the San Francisco Fire Department said they didn't get any 911 emergency calls but they were ready.

"If there is an emergency the fire department can coordinate with law enforcement and possibly get an escort for closed lanes on the opposing side of the roadway to reach you and extricate you safely and move you out of harm way and get you into the ambulance or out of the situation if necessary, said Justin Schorr, rescue captain with SFFD."

https://abc7news.com/pro-palestinian-pr ... /14668534/

I don't think this pearl clutching is about safety.
So…


You want a study to prove that road blockades can impede emergency vehicles from getting where they need to go in the shortest amount of time possible.




“It was an orchestrated event that they put forth,” California Highway Patrol Chief Don Goodbrand said. “They blocked three separate locations on freeways. They prevented law enforcement, paramedics, ambulances from getting to their points of destination.”

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/04/16/us/p ... s-gaza-war

It might be “pearl clutching” to you… but again, I’d support full on murder charges if someone dies from being blocked from reaching the hospital.
Only one call in two protests. That's from SFFD. It's not anecdotal evidence.

Oh, yeah, I'm certain you would.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/isra ... es-blocked

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:12 pm
by Della
Slimshandy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:06 pm What are we all thinking happens if an organ on its way to a transplant recipient doesn’t get there quick enough?
Can protestors block helipads?

Re: Blocking traffic for a political protest…

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:20 pm
by Lexy
Community Justice Exchange, part of the Soros-funded Tides Center, solicits legal defense donations for arrested protesters

https://freebeacon.com/israel/left-wing ... -blockers/