Blocking traffic for a political protest…

[Slimshandy]

So, it only matters if it's purposeful. It doesn't matter otherwise. Gotcha.

Yes, intent matters…

Is that a crazy notion to you?

Collateral damage

Sorry… not following.
What do you mean by collateral damage?

[Momto2boys973]

Let’s see… it happened in Chicago, NYC, San Francisco, Seattle. And plenty of vandalism against Jewish owned businesses in NYC and Philadelphia. I haven’t seen any disruptive protests in Texas (oh! One in Austin, the blue dot in Texas, but it wasn’t that disruptive), Alabama, Florida, Arizona, Arkansas, Louisiana to name a few.
Obviously nothing is black and white. There are some exceptions sometimes. But the tendency is pretty clear and obvious as to where these violent anti Israel, anti America protests are coming from. And it’s left wing extremism.

Yes it's annoying and NO you CANNOT take matters into your own hands. And I'm sick of the implication that this kind of thing only happens in "red" states. In fact, it doesn't really happen all that much here.

I haven’t seen it happen in the two red states I’ve lived in either.

[Momto2boys973]

You know my son has been studying in a yeshivah in a red state. Not a single incident all these time. The friends he has there that are for NYC or NJ do experience problems when they go back home.
Now I’m not saying there aren’t anti Israel activists in red states. But thing is, law enforcement is usually allowed to keep things under control, also the public is less tolerant to it. I saw a video a couple of months ago of a pro palestinian who tried to disrupt an event with Abbott and like 4 guys grabbed him and threw him out.
These protesters know where to do it, where they can get away with it.

Yes it's annoying and NO you CANNOT take matters into your own hands. And I'm sick of the implication that this kind of thing only happens in "red" states. In fact, it doesn't really happen all that much here.

I haven’t seen it happen in the two red states I’ve lived in either.

[Slimshandy]

It would be VERY rare to have anti Israel sentiments in a red state because most red states are Christian, and it says in the Bible that you will be cursed forever if you stand against Israel… so most people wouldn’t dare.Jesus Christ was a Jewish Israeli, so there’s definitely a kinship there.

You know my son has been studying in a yeshivah in a red state. Not a single incident all these time. The friends he has there that are for NYC or NJ do experience problems when they go back home.
Now I’m not saying there aren’t anti Israel activists in red states. But thing is, law enforcement is usually allowed to keep things under control, also the public is less tolerant to it. I saw a video a couple of months ago of a pro palestinian who tried to disrupt an event with Abbott and like 4 guys grabbed him and threw him out.
These protesters know where to do it, where they can get away with it.

Yes it's annoying and NO you CANNOT take matters into your own hands. And I'm sick of the implication that this kind of thing only happens in "red" states. In fact, it doesn't really happen all that much here.

I haven’t seen it happen in the two red states I’ve lived in either.

[Della]

It would be VERY rare to have anti Israel sentiments in a red state because most red states are Christian, and it says in the Bible that you will be cursed forever if you stand against Israel… so most people wouldn’t dare.Jesus Christ was a Jewish Israeli, so there’s definitely a kinship there.

You know my son has been studying in a yeshivah in a red state. Not a single incident all these time. The friends he has there that are for NYC or NJ do experience problems when they go back home.
Now I’m not saying there aren’t anti Israel activists in red states. But thing is, law enforcement is usually allowed to keep things under control, also the public is less tolerant to it. I saw a video a couple of months ago of a pro palestinian who tried to disrupt an event with Abbott and like 4 guys grabbed him and threw him out.
These protesters know where to do it, where they can get away with it.

I haven’t seen it happen in the two red states I’ve lived in either.

You can thank Cyrus Schofield and John Nelson Darby for that interpretation. It never existed in Christianity until the mid to late 1800's.

[Slimshandy]

It would be VERY rare to have anti Israel sentiments in a red state because most red states are Christian, and it says in the Bible that you will be cursed forever if you stand against Israel… so most people wouldn’t dare.Jesus Christ was a Jewish Israeli, so there’s definitely a kinship there.

You know my son has been studying in a yeshivah in a red state. Not a single incident all these time. The friends he has there that are for NYC or NJ do experience problems when they go back home.
Now I’m not saying there aren’t anti Israel activists in red states. But thing is, law enforcement is usually allowed to keep things under control, also the public is less tolerant to it. I saw a video a couple of months ago of a pro palestinian who tried to disrupt an event with Abbott and like 4 guys grabbed him and threw him out.
These protesters know where to do it, where they can get away with it.

You can thank Cyrus Schofield and John Nelson Darby for that interpretation. It never existed in Christianity until the mid to late 1800's.

Zechariah 14 has been around since at least 515 BC





Zechariah 14
1
A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
2
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
5
You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake [1] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
6
On that day there will be no light, no cold or frost.
7
It will be a unique day, without daytime or nighttime--a day known to the LORD. When evening comes, there will be light.
8
On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea [2] and half to the western sea, [3] in summer and in winter.
9
The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.
10
The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up and remain in its place, from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
11
It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
12
This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
13
On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other.
14
Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected--great quantities of gold and silver and clothing.
15
A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
16
Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
17

[Della]

It would be VERY rare to have anti Israel sentiments in a red state because most red states are Christian, and it says in the Bible that you will be cursed forever if you stand against Israel… so most people wouldn’t dare.Jesus Christ was a Jewish Israeli, so there’s definitely a kinship there.

You can thank Cyrus Schofield and John Nelson Darby for that interpretation. It never existed in Christianity until the mid to late 1800's.

Zechariah 14 has been around since at least 515 BC





Zechariah 14
1
A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
2
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
5
You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake [1] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
6
On that day there will be no light, no cold or frost.
7
It will be a unique day, without daytime or nighttime--a day known to the LORD. When evening comes, there will be light.
8
On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea [2] and half to the western sea, [3] in summer and in winter.
9
The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.
10
The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up and remain in its place, from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
11
It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
12
This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
13
On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other.
14
Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected--great quantities of gold and silver and clothing.
15
A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
16
Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
17

That's the Old Testament. It's Rabbis from antiquity writing in a futuristic sense. No where in the OT is the land "returned" to the Jews. And they don't believe in the Messiah or the New Testament.

[Slimshandy]

You can thank Cyrus Schofield and John Nelson Darby for that interpretation. It never existed in Christianity until the mid to late 1800's.

Zechariah 14 has been around since at least 515 BC





Zechariah 14
1
A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
2
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
5
You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake [1] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
6
On that day there will be no light, no cold or frost.
7
It will be a unique day, without daytime or nighttime--a day known to the LORD. When evening comes, there will be light.
8
On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea [2] and half to the western sea, [3] in summer and in winter.
9
The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.
10
The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up and remain in its place, from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
11
It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
12
This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
13
On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other.
14
Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected--great quantities of gold and silver and clothing.
15
A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
16
Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
17

That's the Old Testament. It's Rabbis from antiquity writing in a futuristic sense. No where in the OT is the land "returned" to the Jews. And they don't believe in the Messiah or the New Testament.

True, but Christian’s do…


Depending on the Christian- some take the OT as incredibly sacred, some look at it as a history lesson, some don’t think it matters all that much…



But a lot of Christians in Arkansas anyways REALLY hold the OT to be divine scripture.

Plenty of them celebrate Passover, won’t eat shrimp, won’t eat pork, a lot of them wear hair coverings and long skirts only…

“ This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem” is a big one.

[Della]

Zechariah 14 has been around since at least 515 BC





Zechariah 14
1
A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
2
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
5
You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake [1] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
6
On that day there will be no light, no cold or frost.
7
It will be a unique day, without daytime or nighttime--a day known to the LORD. When evening comes, there will be light.
8
On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea [2] and half to the western sea, [3] in summer and in winter.
9
The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.
10
The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up and remain in its place, from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
11
It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
12
This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
13
On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other.
14
Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected--great quantities of gold and silver and clothing.
15
A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
16
Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
17

That's the Old Testament. It's Rabbis from antiquity writing in a futuristic sense. No where in the OT is the land "returned" to the Jews. And they don't believe in the Messiah or the New Testament.

True, but Christian’s do…


Depending on the Christian- some take the OT as incredibly sacred, some look at it as a history lesson, some don’t think it matters all that much…



But the ones in Arkansas anyways REALLY hold the OT to be divine scripture.

Plenty of them celebrate Passover, won’t eat shrimp, won’t eat pork, a lot of them wear hair coverings and long skirts only…

They do all that while ignoring the tense. They have been told what to believe for so long by these so-called men of God, it's ingrained and they ignore it.

[Momto2boys973]

We appreciate all the support that has come from non Jews. As I said before, my son was at the airport yesterday and a woman approached him and said “God bless you” and showed him she had a Star of David bracelet. She said she wasn’t Jewish but stood with Israel and Jews. My son was very grateful for that.

It would be VERY rare to have anti Israel sentiments in a red state because most red states are Christian, and it says in the Bible that you will be cursed forever if you stand against Israel… so most people wouldn’t dare.Jesus Christ was a Jewish Israeli, so there’s definitely a kinship there.

You know my son has been studying in a yeshivah in a red state. Not a single incident all these time. The friends he has there that are for NYC or NJ do experience problems when they go back home.
Now I’m not saying there aren’t anti Israel activists in red states. But thing is, law enforcement is usually allowed to keep things under control, also the public is less tolerant to it. I saw a video a couple of months ago of a pro palestinian who tried to disrupt an event with Abbott and like 4 guys grabbed him and threw him out.
These protesters know where to do it, where they can get away with it.

I haven’t seen it happen in the two red states I’ve lived in either.