Slimshandy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:34 pmThe left behind series?mommy_jules wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:24 amYeah, the Scofield Bible, The Late Great Planet Earth, The Left Behind series, etc. were successful in spreading Darby’s dispensational view. So much so that people are convinced it is the only or at least true Christian eschatological view.
**This is just general information for anyone and everyone. There are 3 views of the millennium, pre-, (2 subcategories, classic and dispensational), post-, and amillennialism.
https://www.logos.com/grow/what-is-eschatology/For 2,000 years, Christians have tried to piece together what the Bible says about the end. A wide swath of orthodox interpretations are possible, and it’s easy to get confused by the different terms people use.
There are four main eschatological views, and each proposes a different take on three key aspects of the end of the world: the millennium, the binding of Satan, and the relationship between Israel and the Church:2
Amillennialism
Postmillennialism
Historic premillennialism
Dispensationalism
*Historic and classic are interchangeable. You’ll see some sources call it classic and other historic. The main point is to distinguish it from dispensationalism which this source labels it as its own category. The source goes on to give a brief description of each one if anyone is interested.
https://news.lifeway.com/2016/04/26/pas ... mplicated/Pastors also disagree about the details of the millennial kingdom.
About half (48 percent) believe in premillennialism, the view that the 1,000-year reign of Christ happens in the future. A third (31 percent) believe in amillennialism, the view that there’s no 1,000-year reign—instead Jesus already rules the hearts and minds of Christians.
One in 10 (11 percent) believe in postmillennialism—the idea that the world will gradually become more Christian until Jesus returns.
Most pastors were split by denomination:
Baptists (75 percent) and Pentecostals (84 percent) are most likely to choose premillennialism.
Lutherans (71 percent) were most likely to choose amillennialism, followed by Presbyterian/Reformed pastors (52 percent) and Methodists (37 percent).
Methodists (27 percent) were more likely than other denominations to choose postmillennialism.
You guys are bringing up books written in our lifetime…
I’m talking about scripture written in 518 BC.
None of that has anything to do with Christians supporting Israel, it’s way to attempt to gaslight them into thinking they’ve been fooled.. but your reason for thinking that doesn’t have anything to do with what I’m talking about.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essa ... -theology/Early Dispensationalism began in Britain but then experienced great popularity in the United States. Darby and other Brethren ministers brought Dispensationalism to America. The rise in popularity of Dispensationalism also occurred through Bible conferences, the rise of Bible institutes and colleges, the influence of Dallas Theological Seminary (est. 1924), and the popularity of radio and television programs from dispensational teachers. Hal Lindsey’s book, The Late Great Planet Earth, and the Left Behind book series (Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins) were books published from a dispensational perspective that became best sellers. Dispensationalism remains popular in the United States but also has many critics.
I’m bringing up well establish church history, beliefs and culture of white evangelical Christians. You can scoff at me bringing up the Left Behind series, but it’s a best selling series of books and blockbusters that have been and continue to be highly influential especially in white evangelical circles. Also, I’m trying to point out that different Christians have different beliefs on things such as Israel, and eschatology plays a big part in that. Not all Christians believe prophecy in the OT are to be understood or interpreted literally, so quoting scripture to support your POV that Christians believe a certain way is not accurate. The nation of Israel is a huge part of dispensationalism’s eschatology, so understanding the distinction among the different views will help people understand why some Christians whole heartedly support Israel and other Christians do not.Dispensational scholars have emphasized certain beliefs as most essential to this system. Charles Ryrie (1925-2016), for example, presented a sine qua non (i.e. essential conditions) of Dispensationalism that involved three areas: (1) a distinction between Israel and the church; (2) a hermeneutic of “literal interpretation” to all areas of scripture including Old Testament prophecies; and (3) the glory of God as the underlying purpose of God in history.
Another dispensationalist, John Feinberg, offered six “essentials” of Dispensationalism: (1) multiple senses of terms like “Jew” and “seed of Abraham; (2) a hermeneutic in which the New Testament reaffirms and does not reinterpret the Old Testament; (3) unconditional promises to national Israel in the Old Testament must be fulfilled with national Israel; (4) a distinctive future for Israel; (5) the church as a distinctive organism; and (6) a philosophy of history in which history is the gradual implementation and outworking of the kingdom of God.
The lists from Ryrie and Feinberg show that Dispensationalism is primarily about a hermeneutic for Bible interpretation, especially involving Old Testament prophecies concerning ethnic/national Israel. And it involves certain beliefs concerning Israel and the church.
