Do you see any validity in this woman’s poem? Or is she missing the mark on how to be inclusive?

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I see a point, and the point I see is to create hostility toward transgender people.
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MonarchMom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:10 pm I see a point, and the point I see is to create hostility toward transgender people.
Do you think there’s any validity behind women not wanting to be defined by words like “chestfeeders, birthing units, or breeders”?
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Slimshandy wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:15 pm
MonarchMom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:10 pm I see a point, and the point I see is to create hostility toward transgender people.
Do you think there’s any validity behind women not wanting to be defined by words like “chestfeeders, birthing units, or breeders”?
Sure - the same validity as not wanting to be defined as sluts, hags, dogs, etc. etc., Nor should men be defined by body parts or stereotypes. All of that is dehumanizing.

I also find words like "help meet" and "compliment" dehumanizing.
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MonarchMom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:25 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:15 pm
MonarchMom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:10 pm I see a point, and the point I see is to create hostility toward transgender people.
Do you think there’s any validity behind women not wanting to be defined by words like “chestfeeders, birthing units, or breeders”?
Sure - the same validity as not wanting to be defined as sluts, hags, dogs, etc. etc., Nor should men be defined by body parts or stereotypes. All of that is dehumanizing.

I also find words like "help meet" and "compliment" dehumanizing.
The word compliment is dehumanizing?
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I guess I don't care that much. Being referred to as a "chestfeeder" doesn't really take anything away from me or my identity or how I feel about myself.
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Slimshandy wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:29 pm
MonarchMom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:25 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:15 pm

Do you think there’s any validity behind women not wanting to be defined by words like “chestfeeders, birthing units, or breeders”?
Sure - the same validity as not wanting to be defined as sluts, hags, dogs, etc. etc., Nor should men be defined by body parts or stereotypes. All of that is dehumanizing.

I also find words like "help meet" and "compliment" dehumanizing.
The word compliment is dehumanizing?
In the sense of "Complementarianism" as defining the role of women to be the "compliment" to a husband, who has the role of "head" and leader in a family. In this view the woman is a "compliment" to the husband, but not a fully realized and autonomous being.
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And what rights are being "obliterated"?
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There's quite a bit of validity, IMO, to the words in the poem.

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MonarchMom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:38 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:29 pm
MonarchMom wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:25 pm

Sure - the same validity as not wanting to be defined as sluts, hags, dogs, etc. etc., Nor should men be defined by body parts or stereotypes. All of that is dehumanizing.

I also find words like "help meet" and "compliment" dehumanizing.
The word compliment is dehumanizing?
In the sense of "Complementarianism" as defining the role of women to be the "compliment" to a husband, who has the role of "head" and leader in a family. In this view the woman is a "compliment" to the husband, but not a fully realized and autonomous being.
I guess I haven’t heard it used like that other than movies in the 50’s or super religious people..



But do you think that’s along the same lines as a woman being called a pregnant woman? As far as I know, most pregnant women didn’t have a problem being called a pregnant woman. Although some are feeling dehumanized by being called Breeders.
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