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New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:06 pm
by Slimshandy
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-yo ... 024-03-06/


New York Governor Kathy Hochul will deploy 750 soldiers from the state's National Guard to help New York City police check commuters' bags in the busiest stations in the city's sprawling subway system, she announced on Wednesday.
Another 250 officers from the New York State Police and the state-controlled Metropolitan Transportation Authority Police will also join the effort, which Hochul said was intended to deter crime.

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:47 pm
by Della
Collateral damage?

"There were 38 robberies and 70 thefts, including pick-pocketing, on the subway system in February, compared to 40 robberies and 98 thefts in the same month last year, according to police data. There were 35 assaults, the same number as for February 2023. About 90 million trips were taken on the subway over the month."

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:11 pm
by Lexy
Della wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:47 pm Collateral damage?

"There were 38 robberies and 70 thefts, including pick-pocketing, on the subway system in February, compared to 40 robberies and 98 thefts in the same month last year, according to police data. There were 35 assaults, the same number as for February 2023. About 90 million trips were taken on the subway over the month."
When crimes are not reported or de-criminalized, the crime rate is truly down. The acts are not decreasing, but the crime rate is down. They base those numbers on convictions, not arrests. Distorted truth for their followers.

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:28 pm
by Della
Lexy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:11 pm
Della wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:47 pm Collateral damage?

"There were 38 robberies and 70 thefts, including pick-pocketing, on the subway system in February, compared to 40 robberies and 98 thefts in the same month last year, according to police data. There were 35 assaults, the same number as for February 2023. About 90 million trips were taken on the subway over the month."
When crimes are not reported or de-criminalized, the crime rate is truly down. The acts are not decreasing, but the crime rate is down. They base those numbers on convictions, not arrests. Distorted truth for their followers.
Who does?

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:39 pm
by MonarchMom
They have done this in the past at times, and no one seems to get ruffled. I go into NYC frequently for plays, concerts, museums, etc. Have no hesitation to walk the streets or take the subways.

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:48 pm
by SallyMae
Lexy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:11 pm
Della wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:47 pm Collateral damage?

"There were 38 robberies and 70 thefts, including pick-pocketing, on the subway system in February, compared to 40 robberies and 98 thefts in the same month last year, according to police data. There were 35 assaults, the same number as for February 2023. About 90 million trips were taken on the subway over the month."
When crimes are not reported or de-criminalized, the crime rate is truly down. The acts are not decreasing, but the crime rate is down. They base those numbers on convictions, not arrests. Distorted truth for their followers.
I can't find any evidence that NYC - unlike every other municipality in the country - is compiling their crime statistics from convictions. They seem to be counting reported incidents, compiled at the National Incident-Based Reporting System or NIBRS, like everywhere else. Where did you get this idea?

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:53 pm
by Lexy
Della wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:28 pm
Lexy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:11 pm
Della wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:47 pm Collateral damage?

"There were 38 robberies and 70 thefts, including pick-pocketing, on the subway system in February, compared to 40 robberies and 98 thefts in the same month last year, according to police data. There were 35 assaults, the same number as for February 2023. About 90 million trips were taken on the subway over the month."
When crimes are not reported or de-criminalized, the crime rate is truly down. The acts are not decreasing, but the crime rate is down. They base those numbers on convictions, not arrests. Distorted truth for their followers.
Who does?
Crime is not on the decline. These big cities have District Attorneys that simply don't bring charges against offenders. If you don't prosecute crime, It's like it never happened

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:18 pm
by AZOldGal66
For further clarification......

"Hochul deploys National Guard troops to New York City subway amid rising crime numbers - CBS New York" https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/na ... ag-checks/

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:02 pm
by SallyMae
Lexy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:53 pm Crime is not on the decline. These big cities have District Attorneys that simply don't bring charges against offenders. If you don't prosecute crime, It's like it never happened
First of all, yes, crime definitely DID plummet in 2023, in cities across the nation, with exceptions. Secondly, crime statistics absolutely ARE compiled from reported incidents, not from prosecutions or convictions. Would you be opposed to reading a bit about it? Here are some sources I found while looking into this:

US sees record drop in yearly homicides despite public concern over crime
https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-numb ... =105556400

FBI's national standards for incident-based reporting:
https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you ... mation/ucr

No migrant crime wave - 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... i=89978449


Now I'm not going to say that Uncle Joe is personally responsible for the drop in crime. Crime rates rise and fall in very unpredictable ways that are barely related to spending (which always goes up, even though crime goes up and down.) But I think there is a political narrative here, that Democrats are bad for crime, or that migrants bring crime, that I don't think is supported by the facts.

Thanks Lexy!

Re: New York to deploy 750 National Guard soldiers to check bags on subway

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:02 pm
by Della
Lexy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:53 pm
Della wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:28 pm
Lexy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:11 pm

When crimes are not reported or de-criminalized, the crime rate is truly down. The acts are not decreasing, but the crime rate is down. They base those numbers on convictions, not arrests. Distorted truth for their followers.
Who does?
Crime is not on the decline. These big cities have District Attorneys that simply don't bring charges against offenders. If you don't prosecute crime, It's like it never happened
Crime stats are not based on convictions. Are you attempting to say that law enforcement isn't actually arresting perpetrators?