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Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:29 am
by SlimShady
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Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:50 am
by SallyMae
Should we stop saying "Senior Citizens"? We're all Americans, and there's no reason to discuss people who happen to be old...unless you want to address something that concerns them specifically.

Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:58 am
by Della
I just want to see his birth certificate.

Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:00 am
by SlimShady
SallyMae wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:50 am Should we stop saying "Senior Citizens"? We're all Americans, and there's no reason to discuss people who happen to be old...unless you want to address something that concerns them specifically.
I suppose it comes down to the level of societal separation each phrase implies to someone…


When we call someone a senior citizen, what is the demarcation we wish to imply?

Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:06 am
by SlimShady
Della wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:58 am I just want to see his birth certificate.
He was born in Ohio, so you just have to fill out a request form.


https://www.rcfp.org/open-government-guide/ohio/

https://www.rcfp.org/open-government-gu ... st-records


Ohio

Ordinarily birth certificates are public records. However, where a birth record is changed and a new birth record issued, the original birth record is no longer available for inspection except by court order. Following adoption, a new birth record is issued and the original birth record ceases to be a public record. Ohio Rev. Code §§ 3705.09, 3705.12.

Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:21 am
by SouthernIslander
No and I am tired of politicians constantly micromanaging everyone’s self identity and how we think.

I’m not gonna be forced to consider myself as the same thing as a trans woman because the left wants me to and I’m not gonna be forced to consider myself as the same thing as a White American because the right wants me to.

If he wants to be identified as American only or he finds POC offensive, he has every right to set that boundary with the people he interacts with. However, he doesn’t get to make that decision for a very large number of minorities who do not feel that way.

Its OK to acknowledge how we are different, how we treat is each other is the problem.

Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:25 am
by AZOldGal66
SouthernIslander wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:21 am No and I am tired of politicians constantly micromanaging everyone’s self identity and how we think.

I’m not gonna be forced to consider myself as the same thing as a trans woman because the left wants me to and I’m not gonna be forced to consider myself as the same thing as a White American because the right wants me to.

If he wants to be identified as American only or he finds POC offensive, he has every right to set that boundary with the people he interacts with. However, he doesn’t get to make that decision for a very large number of minorities who do not feel that way.

Its OK to acknowledge how we are different, how we treat is each other is the problem.
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Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:46 am
by mommy_jules
No

Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:04 pm
by SlimShady
I’m not sure it’s a statement on valuing individuality.


People of color isnt really a statement that has to do with individuality, it means they’re not white. They could be blck, Hispanic, Polynesian, Indian… they’re not white.

So ok… people should be able to identify as anything they want…




But I think the question here is - Is it beneficial to societal progression towards accepting all aspects of each American’s individuality by continuing to make the separation between white people and “everyone else”…

Is it beneficial to white children to be taught there’s your group, and the rest of the world’s group…?


Is it beneficial to children from an Indian background to have their identity grouped in with a child with a Polynesian background on the basis that they’re not white?



The commonplace behind defining white people separately from everyone else had a white-driven racist intent behind it. They said “colored” we now say “people of color”. The goal was erasing everyone else’s history.

If the ultimate goal of today is acceptance of unique individuality, is it a lot more important to define others by who they are, rather than who they aren’t?
SouthernIslander wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:21 am No and I am tired of politicians constantly micromanaging everyone’s self identity and how we think.

I’m not gonna be forced to consider myself as the same thing as a trans woman because the left wants me to and I’m not gonna be forced to consider myself as the same thing as a White American because the right wants me to.

If he wants to be identified as American only or he finds POC offensive, he has every right to set that boundary with the people he interacts with. However, he doesn’t get to make that decision for a very large number of minorities who do not feel that way.

Its OK to acknowledge how we are different, how we treat is each other is the problem.

Re: Should we stop saying “people of color”?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:25 pm
by jessilin0113
We can say "americans" when all are truly treated equally but we aren't and "people of color" take the brunt of mistreatment, so it's useful to have that qualifier. And that seems like how it's used? When distinctions are needed? I guess i don't know exactly what Vivek is referring to when he says to get rid of it.