U.S. says foreign students may have to leave if their school goes online-only

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cgd5112 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:42 pm Fred trump jr’s friend hated/s d trump? You get this from him saying his application gave no indication of a genius and was a run of the mill application?
Yet, trump himself doesn’t want to disclose his genius level transcripts.

He never attended an MBA program at Wharton. That program is considered highly prestigious.

trump was only at Wharton for two years and got a bachelor’s in economics. He went on to put his genius in action by having his businesses declare bankruptcy six times.

Mommamia wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:43 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:15 pm 81 is too old ... Hmm... But you have no problem hanging on and defending the word of a 74 "stable genius" who erroneously claims he doesn't know and no one knows what the 19 in CovId-19 stands for; and allegedly asked around and no one is able to tell him what the 19 is ...?

JK - jared k


It's a well known fact that universities and the people they employ are progressive dems. Progressive dems hate Trump. So, the ruminations of an old man who obviously hates Trump aren't worth a flying rat's ass.

And as for Jared''s father donating millions to the school he went too, it happens all of the time with the rich. Should it get them preferential treatment? No, but it's just another one of those unfair things that happens in life. How do you think Harvard has accumulated a $40B endowment fund. A fund that should be used for those who can't afford expensive schools.
And according to Mary Trump, Donald paid someone to take his SATs for him. :lol:
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cgd5112 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:42 pm Fred trump jr’s friend hated/s d trump? You get this from him saying his application gave no indication of a genius and was a run of the mill application?
Yet, trump himself doesn’t want to disclose his genius level transcripts.

He never attended an MBA program at Wharton. That program is considered highly prestigious.

trump was only at Wharton for two years and got a bachelor’s in economics. He went on to put his genius in action by having his businesses declare bankruptcy six times.

Mommamia wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:43 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:15 pm 81 is too old ... Hmm... But you have no problem hanging on and defending the word of a 74 "stable genius" who erroneously claims he doesn't know and no one knows what the 19 in CovId-19 stands for; and allegedly asked around and no one is able to tell him what the 19 is ...?

JK - jared k


It's a well known fact that universities and the people they employ are progressive dems. Progressive dems hate Trump. So, the ruminations of an old man who obviously hates Trump aren't worth a flying rat's ass.

And as for Jared''s father donating millions to the school he went too, it happens all of the time with the rich. Should it get them preferential treatment? No, but it's just another one of those unfair things that happens in life. How do you think Harvard has accumulated a $40B endowment fund. A fund that should be used for those who can't afford expensive schools.
So, the man was friends with Fred Trump. That was 50 years ago. That has nothing to do with what he probably feels now about Trump.

You obviously know very little about corporations and bankruptcy. Read and learn....

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how- ... tay-on-top

https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconn ... k-for-him/

"But to those uninitiated in bankruptcy laws, four instances of corporate bankruptcy in a row can seem staggering. "To the ordinary person in the street, it may seem surprising, but certainly not to me," said Reed Smith partner Michael Venditto, who has represented clients in high profile Chapter 11 cases, including bankrupt airline TWA. "Chapter 11 is how you reshape and restructure a company that has problems. It doesn't indicate anything nefarious or even bad management."

3. It's better than the alternative.

More important, said Venditto, are the repercussions Chapter 11 might have for creditors versus, say, liquidation. "You can have a visceral reaction to the fact that this company has gone through Chapter 11 multiple times, but the bondholders look at it and the alternatives are much, much worse. What is an empty casino sitting on the Atlantic City boardwalk worth? If it's operating and it's got cash flow and income, it may not be able to pay back every cent on the dollar, but the creditors are better off in the long run."
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Supposedly Trump filed for personal bankruptcy once. He never again involved himself in the ownership tied to his finances. His corporations, not Trump, filed for bankruptcy four times. It was all legal."
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WellPreserved wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:03 pm
Mommamia wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:14 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:55 pm

There are 1 million foreign national students attending colleges/universities in the US. They are undergraduate, graduate, and doctorate students. Many are continuing their studies (not new students) so have housing, either on or off campus, secured. Can you see how this would be difficult for students who are already here in the US? Most universities that are offering on-line only classes are still allowing students to use their research facilities (labs, libraries, etc.). These students that need these resources will not be able to access them out of the country. Can you see how this would be problematic? Most universities that have switched to online studies are doing so with the same course schedule as in-class studies, i.e., 11:30-1:00 TTh. Can you not see how this would be difficult for students who live in different time zones, have limited access to internet, or their internet use is censored?

There is no reason for these students to not be allowed to attend brick and mortar schools who have adjusted to online learning because of the pandemic. None, except to financially punish colleges and universities and to be cruel to international students. Some schools are implementing "work arounds" and I hope all schools/and students affected are able to do that. It's just so incredibly stupid that they have to.
There is no reason for any of these universities/colleges to remain closed. They are the ones causing all of this trouble for foreign students.

They all should contact Tulane University to learn how to keep their schools open while maintaining as much safety for students and teachers as is possible.
Tulane's summer sessions are currently online. Tulane won't open to on-campus learning until middle of August. I did look at the Tulane's website and measures for opening in the Fall are impressive. 5% of the university population will be tested daily, contract tracing will be conducted for all who test positive, masks are required, social distancing is required in all university spaces, faculty and staff who have been exposed will quarantine in their residences. Students will quarantine in the infirmary.

While impressive, there is a risk in this plan. If a significant number of staff, faculty, and or students are exposed, what does that do to the feasibility of on-campus learning? Also, the plan has a caveat: "These recommendations and university plans could change based on developments and policies enacted on the local, state and national level."

My daughter's college is planning to open with similar measures in place, however, they recognize that they may have to go back to online learning if there are a significant number of Covid-19 cases on campus or if state policy dictates closure. What would that mean for the international students who make up 25% of the student population?
I know about Tulane's plans because the son of a good friend of mine goes there. Tulane closed right away the minute we all were told the pandemic is here. The kids were able to finish the semester on line.

It's understandable that there would be a caveat. Circumstances can change on a dime when it comes to this virus. Colleges and universities have many grad students who can teach a class if an instructor becomes ill. Tulane only has about 5% international students.
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So, if he sang trump's praises , you'd be all over it like flies on shit. Then being 81 years old would be a treasure trove of memories.

Bankruptcy is better for companies to survive poor business management. It's a last resort. trump is not a good businessman. 6 bankruptcies between 1991-2009 is not something to brag about by spinning it to where you saved the very company you dragged to the ground.

But you get an A for effort, Spindoctor ;)

Mommamia wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:20 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:42 pm Fred trump jr’s friend hated/s d trump? You get this from him saying his application gave no indication of a genius and was a run of the mill application?
Yet, trump himself doesn’t want to disclose his genius level transcripts.

He never attended an MBA program at Wharton. That program is considered highly prestigious.

trump was only at Wharton for two years and got a bachelor’s in economics. He went on to put his genius in action by having his businesses declare bankruptcy six times.

Mommamia wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:43 pm

It's a well known fact that universities and the people they employ are progressive dems. Progressive dems hate Trump. So, the ruminations of an old man who obviously hates Trump aren't worth a flying rat's ass.

And as for Jared''s father donating millions to the school he went too, it happens all of the time with the rich. Should it get them preferential treatment? No, but it's just another one of those unfair things that happens in life. How do you think Harvard has accumulated a $40B endowment fund. A fund that should be used for those who can't afford expensive schools.
So, the man was friends with Fred Trump. That was 50 years ago. That has nothing to do with what he probably feels now about Trump.

You obviously know very little about corporations and bankruptcy. Read and learn....

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how- ... tay-on-top

https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconn ... k-for-him/

"But to those uninitiated in bankruptcy laws, four instances of corporate bankruptcy in a row can seem staggering. "To the ordinary person in the street, it may seem surprising, but certainly not to me," said Reed Smith partner Michael Venditto, who has represented clients in high profile Chapter 11 cases, including bankrupt airline TWA. "Chapter 11 is how you reshape and restructure a company that has problems. It doesn't indicate anything nefarious or even bad management."

3. It's better than the alternative.

More important, said Venditto, are the repercussions Chapter 11 might have for creditors versus, say, liquidation. "You can have a visceral reaction to the fact that this company has gone through Chapter 11 multiple times, but the bondholders look at it and the alternatives are much, much worse. What is an empty casino sitting on the Atlantic City boardwalk worth? If it's operating and it's got cash flow and income, it may not be able to pay back every cent on the dollar, but the creditors are better off in the long run."
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Supposedly Trump filed for personal bankruptcy once. He never again involved himself in the ownership tied to his finances. His corporations, not Trump, filed for bankruptcy four times. It was all legal."
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Bahaha! Oh my ... the stable genius... smh. ...


WellPreserved wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:06 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:42 pm Fred trump jr’s friend hated/s d trump? You get this from him saying his application gave no indication of a genius and was a run of the mill application?
Yet, trump himself doesn’t want to disclose his genius level transcripts.

He never attended an MBA program at Wharton. That program is considered highly prestigious.

trump was only at Wharton for two years and got a bachelor’s in economics. He went on to put his genius in action by having his businesses declare bankruptcy six times.

Mommamia wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:43 pm

It's a well known fact that universities and the people they employ are progressive dems. Progressive dems hate Trump. So, the ruminations of an old man who obviously hates Trump aren't worth a flying rat's ass.

And as for Jared''s father donating millions to the school he went too, it happens all of the time with the rich. Should it get them preferential treatment? No, but it's just another one of those unfair things that happens in life. How do you think Harvard has accumulated a $40B endowment fund. A fund that should be used for those who can't afford expensive schools.
And according to Mary Trump, Donald paid someone to take his SATs for him. :lol:
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This was already the rule before trump came into office.
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cgd5112 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:36 am Bahaha! Oh my ... the stable genius... smh. ...


WellPreserved wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:06 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:42 pm Fred trump jr’s friend hated/s d trump? You get this from him saying his application gave no indication of a genius and was a run of the mill application?
Yet, trump himself doesn’t want to disclose his genius level transcripts.

He never attended an MBA program at Wharton. That program is considered highly prestigious.

trump was only at Wharton for two years and got a bachelor’s in economics. He went on to put his genius in action by having his businesses declare bankruptcy six times.


And according to Mary Trump, Donald paid someone to take his SATs for him. :lol:
You people are so gullible. even if this were true, why would he tell his irrelevant niece?
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Mr.Smile wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:17 pm This was already the rule before trump came into office.
There's a rule that if a pandemic happens and schools need to alter they way they teach that students from other countries have to leave? Never heard of it.

No one else would be small enough to do this in the middle of a pandemic. Again, pandering to the base. And it works, have to give him credit for that.
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Even if it were true, his now popular niece doesn't need uncle don the con to tell her. She may very well have found from more than one other source.

How naive are you that you'd think something like this wouldn't get out without trump's consent ( assuming he didn't brag about it to someone in the family or social circles- like fellow perv Epstein)?LOL! Please ... It's fodder not state secrets.

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cgd5112 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:36 am Bahaha! Oh my ... the stable genius... smh. ...


WellPreserved wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:06 pm

And according to Mary Trump, Donald paid someone to take his SATs for him. :lol:
You people are so gullible. even if this were true, why would he tell his irrelevant niece?
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Mr.Smile wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:18 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:36 am Bahaha! Oh my ... the stable genius... smh. ...


WellPreserved wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:06 pm

And according to Mary Trump, Donald paid someone to take his SATs for him. :lol:
You people are so gullible. even if this were true, why would he tell his irrelevant niece?
You don't think it's gullible to believe that everyone else is lying except the one man who has been caught lying thousands of times?
Mary L. Trump, a psychologist, writes that Trump’s reelection would be catastrophic and that “lying, playing to the lowest common denominator, cheating, and sowing division are all he knows.”
An honest person wouldn't argue with this. Unless you're part of that group he's playing to you know this is true.
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