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SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:07 pm
Aletheia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:36 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:34 pm She shouldn’t have pulled the gun but
No "but"s.

A physically aggressive response to a purely verbally aggressive interaction is always crossing the line.

Threatening lethal force is so far beyond the line, it's insane.
Ummm no , that is your opinion and there is a “but” in mine. No, the lady shouldn’t have pulled the gun and the mom was dead wrong too.
There are no buts in the law. Brandishing a weapon is a serious offense and her claims of defending herself are weak.

The video showed the gun woman already leaving in her SUV backing out to drive away when the woman hit her SUV with her hand. At that point gun woman got out of her SUV pointing her gun.

Legally she crossed the line and was arrested.
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jessilin0113 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:25 am
Mommamia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:49 am
manna080 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:13 am

These overreactions like this have happened long before any riots happened.
It's just going to get worse because of the rioting.
Interesting that you are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to white people because they are scared, but black people who report being scared and stressed all the time due to police interactions and racism would certainly not get this level of concern and forgiveness.
WTH are you flapping your gums about now? The more comments you make, the crazier you sound.
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People are scared, hurt, and angry. In this country we also have firearms in the mix. Not a great situation but it is what it is.
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Lemons wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:02 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:07 pm
Aletheia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:36 pm
No "but"s.

A physically aggressive response to a purely verbally aggressive interaction is always crossing the line.

Threatening lethal force is so far beyond the line, it's insane.
Ummm no , that is your opinion and there is a “but” in mine. No, the lady shouldn’t have pulled the gun and the mom was dead wrong too.
There are no buts in the law. Brandishing a weapon is a serious offense and her claims of defending herself are weak.

The video showed the gun woman already leaving in her SUV backing out to drive away when the woman hit her SUV with her hand. At that point gun woman got out of her SUV pointing her gun.

Legally she crossed the line and was arrested.
Where did I say she shouldn’t have been arrested or charged? I coulda swore I just told BB the courts will handle the brandishing.

Do you have a problem with me saying the other lady was wrong too and I’m not saying exactly what you think I should?
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Mommamia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:04 pm
jessilin0113 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:25 am
Mommamia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:49 am

It's just going to get worse because of the rioting.
Interesting that you are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to white people because they are scared, but black people who report being scared and stressed all the time due to police interactions and racism would certainly not get this level of concern and forgiveness.
WTH are you flapping your gums about now? The more comments you make, the crazier you sound.
You (general) are saying white people are so scared because of everything going on that it should be expected that they react this irrationally. But when black people act irrationally in a scary situation with police (running, scuffling, firing a taser over their shoulder while running away), because they have been exposed to prolonged fear and stress in watching others be shot while unarmed, you dont offer them the same understanding. It's all "they should have complied" or "stayed calm". White fear is valid but black fear is not.
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SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:18 pm
Lemons wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:02 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:07 pm

Ummm no , that is your opinion and there is a “but” in mine. No, the lady shouldn’t have pulled the gun and the mom was dead wrong too.
There are no buts in the law. Brandishing a weapon is a serious offense and her claims of defending herself are weak.

The video showed the gun woman already leaving in her SUV backing out to drive away when the woman hit her SUV with her hand. At that point gun woman got out of her SUV pointing her gun.

Legally she crossed the line and was arrested.
Where did I say she shouldn’t have been arrested or charged? I coulda swore I just told BB the courts will handle the brandishing.

Do you have a problem with me saying the other lady was wrong too and I’m not saying exactly what you think I should?
The black lady was up to no good, looking for trouble. I think most will agree with that.

I agree with Aletheia There are no “buts”. As soon as the woman left her SUV and approached the woman with a gun she became the aggressor.

People need to learn not to engage in these type of altercations. She was with her husband. They just needed to not respond
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Aletheia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:36 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:34 pm She shouldn’t have pulled the gun but
No "but"s.

A physically aggressive response to a purely verbally aggressive interaction is always crossing the line.

Threatening lethal force is so far beyond the line, it's insane.
No it isn’t. A verbally aggressive confrontation is an aggressive confrontation.

Every person should know not to aggressively confront someone without being shown aggression in return.
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Frau Holle wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:00 pm
Aletheia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:36 pm A physically aggressive response to a purely verbally aggressive interaction is always crossing the line.
No it isn’t.
It is clearly escalation.
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Aletheia wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 pm
Frau Holle wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:00 pm
Aletheia wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:36 pm A physically aggressive response to a purely verbally aggressive interaction is always crossing the line.
No it isn’t.
It is clearly escalation.
Yes, it is.

However the beginning aggressor should not assume that they will direct the other on what the aggression level will remain at.
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