Mom Confessions

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:33 am

DSamuels wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:55 am

But your article is about the homicide rate and doesn’t mention guns at all. So it doesn’t show what you are claiming.

The statistics are pretty much the same whichever way you look at it. Violent crimes are more prevalent in red states and so is gun violence violence and gun murder rates. Have you found information that claims differently?

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:33 am

DSamuels wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:55 am

But your article is about the homicide rate and doesn’t mention guns at all. So it doesn’t show what you are claiming.

The statistics are pretty much the same whichever way you look at it. Violent crimes are more prevalent in red states and so is gun violence violence and gun murder rates. Have you found information that claims differently?

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:33 am

DSamuels wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:55 am

But your article is about the homicide rate and doesn’t mention guns at all. So it doesn’t show what you are claiming.

The statistics are pretty much the same whichever way you look at it. Violent crimes are more prevalent in red states and so is gun violence violence and gun murder rates. Have you found information that claims differently?

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:26 pm

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:33 am

The statistics are pretty much the same whichever way you look at it. Violent crimes are more prevalent in red states and so is gun violence violence and gun murder rates. Have you found information that claims differently?

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

I know. I said it’s an American problem having to do with poverty inequality education plus many more factors. A unique American problem, however, is excessive guns. Other countries have worse poverty and racism without the gun violence.

But you can’t rule out lenient gun laws as one of many reasons for more gun violence in red states.

mommy_jules wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 am

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:33 am

The statistics are pretty much the same whichever way you look at it. Violent crimes are more prevalent in red states and so is gun violence violence and gun murder rates. Have you found information that claims differently?

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

I just watched a video by Phil Vischer, aka Bob the Tomato (Veggie Tales), called Race in America. I’m going to make a post of it’s own, but it goes over many of the issues you’ve mentioned.

I agree with much of what you said as well. Of course, I think tougher gun laws and enforcing the ones already on the books would help, but I believe it is more complex than just having guns. Our violence and crime issues in the US are multifaceted and need to be addressed in that way.

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:38 pm

mommy_jules wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 am

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

I just watched a video by Phil Vischer, aka Bob the Tomato (Veggie Tales), called Race in America. I’m going to make a post of it’s own, but it goes over many of the issues you’ve mentioned.

I agree with much of what you said as well. Of course, I think tougher gun laws and enforcing the ones already on the books would help, but I believe it is more complex than just having guns. Our violence and crime issues in the US are multifaceted and need to be addressed in that way.

I’ll check it out! I agree. I support stricter gun laws too, especially when it comes to accountability for negligent owners but it has its place KWIM? My family came out of the worst neighborhoods in these cities and it’s way more complex then the gun law debate.

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:19 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:26 pm

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

I know. I said it’s an American problem having to do with poverty inequality education plus many more factors. A unique American problem, however, is excessive guns. Other countries have worse poverty and racism without the gun violence.

But you can’t rule out lenient gun laws as one of many reasons for more gun violence in red states.

Blue cities in red states if you’d like to keep emphasizing political party. Calling out the elephant in the room, I don’t care about what other countries do if you’re saying that’s no excuse for Black on Black crime since that’s what we are talking about or downplay what I’m telling you because it’s not fitting the gun law argument.

I support stricter gun laws in the south, so I don’t completely rule it out. But it doesn’t have as big of a impact as people make it out to be to fuss about gun laws and political parties. Bottom line, most of these crimes aren’t committed with legally obtained firearm and stricter laws won’t have enough of an impact to make us the poster child for gun laws.

I know mass shooters won’t fit the red state narrative but they would make a better candidate since more of those crimes are committed by people who legally obtain fire arm, not us.

mommy_jules wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 am

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:33 am

The statistics are pretty much the same whichever way you look at it. Violent crimes are more prevalent in red states and so is gun violence violence and gun murder rates. Have you found information that claims differently?

Jackson, Baton Rouge and NOLA are majority Black cities that are notoriously Blue. The issue with violence has more to do with poverty, lack of educational resources, fall out from the racial past and environment that everyone seems to love shaming us for.

The streets will always have a means to bypass gun laws and it won’t fix the root of the problem that facilitates a survival of the fittest environment.

It’s not as simple as these are Republican states with lenient gun laws.

I just watched a video by Phil Vischer, aka Bob the Tomato (Veggie Tales), called Race in America. I’m going to make a post of it’s own, but it goes over many of the issues you’ve mentioned.

I agree with much of what you said as well. Of course, I think tougher gun laws and enforcing the ones already on the books would help, but I believe it is more complex than just having guns. Our violence and crime issues in the US are multifaceted and need to be addressed in that way.

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:32 pm

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:19 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:26 pm

I know. I said it’s an American problem having to do with poverty inequality education plus many more factors. A unique American problem, however, is excessive guns. Other countries have worse poverty and racism without the gun violence.

But you can’t rule out lenient gun laws as one of many reasons for more gun violence in red states.

Blue cities in red states if you’d like to keep emphasizing political party. Calling out the elephant in the room, I don’t care about what other countries do if you’re saying that’s no excuse for Black on Black crime since that’s what we are talking about or downplay what I’m telling you because it’s not fitting the gun law argument.

I support stricter gun laws in the south, so I don’t completely rule it out. But it doesn’t have as big of a impact as people make it out to be to fuss about gun laws and political parties. Bottom line, most of these crimes aren’t committed with legally obtained firearm and stricter laws won’t have enough of an impact to make us the poster child for gun laws.

I know mass shooters won’t fit the red state narrative but they would make a better candidate since more of those crimes are committed by people who legally obtain fire arm, not us.

I told you before I was clarifying the misconception that a poster wrote about it being a blue state problem. We should address it as a country problem. And to look at countries that are successful in containing gun violence is a smart thing. It's common sense that a country with virtually no guns in homes have very little gun violence.

We will never know if removing guns from homes would have an impact because people in this country won't let go of their guns. Yes, criminals will always have guns and there will always be murder. But we don't need to be the murder capital of the wealthy democratic countries.

Trump loves to bring up the Latino gangs and the MS13 gang. It gets his base all riled up against Latinos and chanting build the wall. But facts are more Latinos are trying to escape gun violence and forced gangs for teen boys in South American countries. The majority of Latinos favor rigid gun control and there's a reason for that. I've never owned a gun and neither has anyone in my family. I don't get the appeal.

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:32 pm

SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:19 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:26 pm

I know. I said it’s an American problem having to do with poverty inequality education plus many more factors. A unique American problem, however, is excessive guns. Other countries have worse poverty and racism without the gun violence.

But you can’t rule out lenient gun laws as one of many reasons for more gun violence in red states.

Blue cities in red states if you’d like to keep emphasizing political party. Calling out the elephant in the room, I don’t care about what other countries do if you’re saying that’s no excuse for Black on Black crime since that’s what we are talking about or downplay what I’m telling you because it’s not fitting the gun law argument.

I support stricter gun laws in the south, so I don’t completely rule it out. But it doesn’t have as big of a impact as people make it out to be to fuss about gun laws and political parties. Bottom line, most of these crimes aren’t committed with legally obtained firearm and stricter laws won’t have enough of an impact to make us the poster child for gun laws.

I know mass shooters won’t fit the red state narrative but they would make a better candidate since more of those crimes are committed by people who legally obtain fire arm, not us.

I told you before I was clarifying the misconception that a poster wrote about it being a blue state problem. We should address it as a country problem. And to look at countries that are successful in containing gun violence is a smart thing. It's common sense that a country with virtually no guns in homes have very little gun violence.

We will never know if removing guns from homes would have an impact because people in this country won't let go of their guns. Yes, criminals will always have guns and there will always be murder. But we don't need to be the murder capital of the wealthy democratic countries.

Trump loves to bring up the Latino gangs and the MS13 gang. It gets his base all riled up against Latinos and chanting build the wall. But facts are more Latinos are trying to escape gun violence and forced gangs for teen boys in South American countries. The majority of Latinos favor rigid gun control and there's a reason for that. I've never owned a gun and neither has anyone in my family. I don't get the appeal.