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Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:14 pm
by Mommamia
Frau Holle wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:03 pm
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:56 pm
Thelma Harper wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:40 pm

He's 89.

:Right-wing figures such as Alex Jones, Donald Trump Jr., James Woods, Dinesh D'Souza, Louie Gohmert, and Larry Klayman have spread a false conspiracy theory, which has been described as anti-Semitic, that Soros was a Nazi collaborator who turned in other Jews and stole their property.[165][166][167][168][169] Soros was a child during World War II who had to hide from the Hungarian government during Nazi occupation.[170][171][172][173][174][175]"

Emery, David (February 4, 2018) [November 28, 2016]. "Was George Soros an SS Officer or Nazi Collaborator During World War II?". Snopes. Retrieved June 2, 2020.
Steve Kroft (December 20, 1998), George Soros 1998 interview MP4 video ("confiscation" comment at 8:35), 60 Minutes via Archive.org
Sonmez, Felicia (December 6, 2018). "Rep. Louie Gohmert falsely says George Soros helped take property from fellow Jews". Washington Post. Retrieved January 11, 2019.
Smith, Allan (December 6, 2018). "Gohmert makes false claim in TV interview about Soros and Jews. Fox Business distances itself". NBC News. Retrieved January 11, 2019.
Lybrand, Holmes (May 30, 2018). "Fact Check: George Soros, the Thieving Nazi Sympathizer?". The Weekly Standard. Retrieved January 11, 2019.
Coaston, Jane (June 11, 2018). "George Soros is not a Nazi, explained". Vox. Retrieved January 11, 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_So ... nd_threats
LMFAO.....Everyone knows wikipedia is not a source to support anything one says.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/conno ... 14954.html
Connoisseur of Chaos | George Soros | National Politics ...

I know the link goes to a long article, which I'm sure you won't read. Too many big words for you.

But I am sure there are a few on MC who will. find it interesting, and it will backup what many already know.
There are some conflicting issues, was he a 10 year old Jewish Nazi, or might some stories be untrue?
He was a teenager when the Nazi's started hauling off the Jews to concentration camp.

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:17 pm
by Mommamia
moviestar wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:44 pm I wasn’t pissed. She, and you, did exactly what I expected. I just wasn’t going to play into her (or your) deflection.
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:47 am
moviestar wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:21 am it’s like you didn’t even read the op
Maybe you should make an app't with a neurologist. You obviously having trouble connecting the dots when people post things. You just spent 2 or 3 comments getting pissed at Carpy because you claim she didn't answer you or whatever. Maybe if your posts made more sense, you get better replies from people. You can't make people say what you want them to say.
Neither one of us was deflecting.

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:39 pm
by Della
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:56 pm
Thelma Harper wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:40 pm
Frau Holle wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:43 pm He was a Nazi in WW2?

How old is he?
He's 89.

:Right-wing figures such as Alex Jones, Donald Trump Jr., James Woods, Dinesh D'Souza, Louie Gohmert, and Larry Klayman have spread a false conspiracy theory, which has been described as anti-Semitic, that Soros was a Nazi collaborator who turned in other Jews and stole their property.[165][166][167][168][169] Soros was a child during World War II who had to hide from the Hungarian government during Nazi occupation.[170][171][172][173][174][175]"

Emery, David (February 4, 2018) [November 28, 2016]. "Was George Soros an SS Officer or Nazi Collaborator During World War II?". Snopes. Retrieved June 2, 2020.
Steve Kroft (December 20, 1998), George Soros 1998 interview MP4 video ("confiscation" comment at 8:35), 60 Minutes via Archive.org
Sonmez, Felicia (December 6, 2018). "Rep. Louie Gohmert falsely says George Soros helped take property from fellow Jews". Washington Post. Retrieved January 11, 2019.
Smith, Allan (December 6, 2018). "Gohmert makes false claim in TV interview about Soros and Jews. Fox Business distances itself". NBC News. Retrieved January 11, 2019.
Lybrand, Holmes (May 30, 2018). "Fact Check: George Soros, the Thieving Nazi Sympathizer?". The Weekly Standard. Retrieved January 11, 2019.
Coaston, Jane (June 11, 2018). "George Soros is not a Nazi, explained". Vox. Retrieved January 11, 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_So ... nd_threats
LMFAO.....Everyone knows wikipedia is not a source to support anything one says.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/conno ... 14954.html
Connoisseur of Chaos | George Soros | National Politics ...

I know the link goes to a long article, which I'm sure you won't read. Too many big words for you.

But I am sure there are a few on MC who will. find it interesting, and it will backup what many already know.
Yet an opinion by a film critic, book critic, drama critic, editor, contributing editor or writer on arts, culture, and politics is legit? LOL!! Lort, you're a laugh a minute.

I read it. It's the same old, same old continually repeated twists and spins. I'm sure they will find that it backs up what many believe.

Oh! Btw. That claim you made earlier about GS being the richest man on the earth?

I guess Mr. Kanfer disagrees ;)

"One of the planet’s richest men..."

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:43 pm
by Frau Holle
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:14 pm
Frau Holle wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:03 pm
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:56 pm

LMFAO.....Everyone knows wikipedia is not a source to support anything one says.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/conno ... 14954.html
Connoisseur of Chaos | George Soros | National Politics ...

I know the link goes to a long article, which I'm sure you won't read. Too many big words for you.

But I am sure there are a few on MC who will. find it interesting, and it will backup what many already know.
There are some conflicting issues, was he a 10 year old Jewish Nazi, or might some stories be untrue?
He was a teenager when the Nazi's started hauling off the Jews to concentration camp.
If he is 89 in 2020 he was born in 1931 which would make him 9 or 10 in when the war began, but Dachau opened in 1933.

There is no specific date on when Jewish people first began arriving to concentration camps for torture, we had to discover what they were being used for.


Stories like that are not uncommon, you do what you need to do to survive, and as a child going through it, you don’t have time to stop and think about how you truly feel about it until a decade later sometimes.

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:50 pm
by Della
Frau Holle wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:43 pm
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:14 pm
Frau Holle wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:03 pm

There are some conflicting issues, was he a 10 year old Jewish Nazi, or might some stories be untrue?
He was a teenager when the Nazi's started hauling off the Jews to concentration camp.
If he is 89 in 2020 he was born in 1931 which would make him 9 or 10 in when the war began, but Dachau opened in 1933.

There is no specific date on when Jewish people first began arriving to concentration camps for torture, we had to discover what they were being used for.


Stories like that are not uncommon, you do what you need to do to survive, and as a child going through it, you don’t have time to stop and think about how you truly feel about it until a decade later sometimes.
The interview mentioned in her link:

"In 1998, 60 Minutes profiled the man whose stock-market manipulations were making news. CBS interviewer Steve Kroft asked him about his wartime experiences:

KROFT: You watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and—and anticipate events and when—when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a—a very personal experience of evil. . . .

KROFT: I mean, that’s—that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

SOROS: Not—not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t—you don’t see the connection. But it was—it created no—no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, “I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.” None of that?

SOROS: Well, of course I c— I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was—well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets—that if I weren’t there—of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would—would—would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the—whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the—I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt."

https://www.city-journal.org/html/conno ... 14954.html

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:22 pm
by Mommamia
Soros is behind antifa, and none of the left wing bs you people post is going to change that fact. Now that Trump is going to name them as domestic terrorists, Barr will be digging very deeply into them. He will find the trail that will lead right back to Soros.

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:14 pm
by WellPreserved
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:22 pm Soros is behind antifa, and none of the left wing bs you people post is going to change that fact. Now that Trump is going to name them as domestic terrorists, Barr will be digging very deeply into them. He will find the trail that will lead right back to Soros.
lol. Good luck with that.

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:55 pm
by Lemons
WellPreserved wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:14 pm
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:22 pm Soros is behind antifa, and none of the left wing bs you people post is going to change that fact. Now that Trump is going to name them as domestic terrorists, Barr will be digging very deeply into them. He will find the trail that will lead right back to Soros.
lol. Good luck with that.
She’s got everything figured out. Black and white. Left bad, right good. The poster child for Trump’s base - uninformed, poorly educated and not willing to learn, just plain stupid.

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:15 pm
by Della
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:22 pm Soros is behind antifa, and none of the left wing bs you people post is going to change that fact. Now that Trump is going to name them as domestic terrorists, Barr will be digging very deeply into them. He will find the trail that will lead right back to Soros.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R44921 - August 2017

I guess Mr. Trump dropped the ball.

Re: What we know now

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:22 pm
by WellPreserved
Thelma Harper wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:50 pm
Frau Holle wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:43 pm
Mommamia wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:14 pm

He was a teenager when the Nazi's started hauling off the Jews to concentration camp.
If he is 89 in 2020 he was born in 1931 which would make him 9 or 10 in when the war began, but Dachau opened in 1933.

There is no specific date on when Jewish people first began arriving to concentration camps for torture, we had to discover what they were being used for.


Stories like that are not uncommon, you do what you need to do to survive, and as a child going through it, you don’t have time to stop and think about how you truly feel about it until a decade later sometimes.
The interview mentioned in her link:

"In 1998, 60 Minutes profiled the man whose stock-market manipulations were making news. CBS interviewer Steve Kroft asked him about his wartime experiences:

KROFT: You watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and—and anticipate events and when—when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a—a very personal experience of evil. . . .

KROFT: I mean, that’s—that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

SOROS: Not—not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t—you don’t see the connection. But it was—it created no—no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, “I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.” None of that?

SOROS: Well, of course I c— I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was—well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets—that if I weren’t there—of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would—would—would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the—whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the—I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt."

https://www.city-journal.org/html/conno ... 14954.html
There are those who will look at that interview and understand the nuances of a teen Jew living in Nazi Germany and that how one navigated it was not so clear cut. There are others who are going to view with a "black/white" view. It's virtually impossible to convince those of opposing views that their view is the correct one.

Soros is destined to be the enemy of some, the hero to others, and inconsequential to most. That is his legacy, like it or leave it. Frankly, I don't think he gives a damn.