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Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:37 am
by moviestar
I use logic all the time, you just don’t understand it 🙃
water<wine wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:55 pm
moviestar wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:00 pm It’s honestly impressive how you understand almost nothing yet never seem embarrassed about it.
water<wine wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:49 pm

2.5 million isn't wealthy compared to bloomberg but its extremely wealthy to the average worker he claims to care about. Surely he could sacrifice his vacation home and pay his staffers a nice wage. My point is "wealth" is relative. to a homeless guy on the street I am probably rich just because I don't have to eat out of a trash can and sleep in a cardboard box.

so bernie gets to arbitrarily draw the line at himself? or does he? I am sure his little communist followers will come after his family's acquired wealth in a few decades.
it's honestly not impressive how you use logical fallacies and never logic to support your arguments.

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:23 am
by Della
I don't care for Sanders policies. I won't vote for him. But I think it's ridiculous to talk smack about a 78 year old man who has accumulated $2.5 million in wealth over the years. Isn't that what we're told to strive for in retirement - to work (yes, he's worked), save, invest. and build a nest egg?

Sometimes I wonder if people understand the difference between wealth and income.

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:14 am
by KnotaDinghy
Most of Bernie’s wealth came in the near past, specifically from book sales. I can’t get mad at someone for living the bulk of their life then writing a best selling novel and becoming a millionaire from that. But we started a small business 6 years ago and I spend summers in my own sort of vacation home so I guess I’m biased. Although I won’t vote for him, I won’t hate on the money he’s socked away and he shouldn’t apologize for it. Actually, neither should Bloomberg. He’s live the American dream and it’s refreshing to hear someone on the left this election cycle stand up for capitalism and the American success story.

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:59 am
by Momto2boys973
That was my favorite moment, when Bloomberg pointed that out 😂
Fact is, socialism is only good for the very rich or the poor. The hardworking middle class is the one that gets screwed by it.
Lexy wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:20 pm Three houses Bernie. Oh forgive me for having a summer house! Oh really? A summer house? Must be nice, and if everything is equal? How many of us are gonna get a summer house?

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:56 am
by WellPreserved
water<wine wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:43 pm
AZLizardLady wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:32 pm I gotta say....for as many digs that were made toward Bloomberg, he actually did make some good ones himself, particularly at Sanders from the snippets I've been seeing on the news and Twitter of the debate last night.

I don't believe Bloomberg will be able to become the Democrat primary candidate. I do strongly feel that Sanders will ultimately take that from all of them and it will be THEN that I watch a political debate.

To see Sanders vs President Trump on a debate stage will be, IMO and at the minimum, quite entertaining.
bloomberg's problem was that he was a total coward and apologized for everything rather than explain his logic. and defend himself and attack back like Trump does. for ex. when warren attacked him for having employees sign NDA's, that is standard practice for businesses. He could have used that moment to point out warren has never started a business and has no idea what she is talking about. then highlight his own experience. his excuse that they agreed to" keep quiet" just sounded bad, the connotation of that phrase is negative and sounds skeevy like he had something bad to hide. Not that I want bloomberg to do well but man that guy is socially inept. He just doesn't "have it". He looked weak and arrogant. not sure how that is even possible?
You do know that Warren used to teach contract law?


Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:22 pm
by Lemons
Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:23 am I don't care for Sanders policies. I won't vote for him. But I think it's ridiculous to talk smack about a 78 year old man who has accumulated $2.5 million in wealth over the years. Isn't that what we're told to strive for in retirement - to work (yes, he's worked), save, invest. and build a nest egg?

Sometimes I wonder if people understand the difference between wealth and income.
I will absolutely vote for him over a corrupt president. Corruption will erode a democracy a lot faster than a president who dreams of a new Norway.

We will be electing a president, not a dictator. Trump is doing all he can to imitate a dictator and the congress who is supposed to step in on this type of behavior is paralyzed with fear right now of their own re-election. They are allowing it to happen.

Right now Republicans are trying to hide a foreign governments interference in our next election. And people are worried about what? Socialism? Our capitalism is going nowhere. Sanders isn’t trying to eliminate capitalism. Presidents aren’t that powerful.

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:07 pm
by Deleted User 1393
Lexy wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:20 pm Three houses Bernie. Oh forgive me for having a summer house! Oh really? A summer house? Must be nice, and if everything is equal? How many of us are gonna get a summer house?
You get a summer house, she gets a summer house, they get a summer house, I get a summer house....WE ALL GET A SUMMER HOUSE. I mean isn't that the way socialism works? Everyone equal?

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:22 pm
by Della
Lemons wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:22 pm
Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:23 am I don't care for Sanders policies. I won't vote for him. But I think it's ridiculous to talk smack about a 78 year old man who has accumulated $2.5 million in wealth over the years. Isn't that what we're told to strive for in retirement - to work (yes, he's worked), save, invest. and build a nest egg?

Sometimes I wonder if people understand the difference between wealth and income.
I will absolutely vote for him over a corrupt president. Corruption will erode a democracy a lot faster than a president who dreams of a new Norway.

We will be electing a president, not a dictator. Trump is doing all he can to imitate a dictator and the congress who is supposed to step in on this type of behavior is paralyzed with fear right now of their own re-election. They are allowing it to happen.

Right now Republicans are trying to hide a foreign governments interference in our next election. And people are worried about what? Socialism? Our capitalism is going nowhere. Sanders isn’t trying to eliminate capitalism. Presidents aren’t that powerful.
I don't think or believe capitalism is going anywhere and I don't think it should. If president's aren't that powerful, why should we be afraid of Trump?

America is heading for hell in a snowball. I don't know how many times I have to say it. We need to get back to center. This far right and far left shit will bury us - just like Khrushchev predicted.

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:24 pm
by Della
iamanon wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:07 pm
Lexy wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:20 pm Three houses Bernie. Oh forgive me for having a summer house! Oh really? A summer house? Must be nice, and if everything is equal? How many of us are gonna get a summer house?
You get a summer house, she gets a summer house, they get a summer house, I get a summer house....WE ALL GET A SUMMER HOUSE. I mean isn't that the way socialism works? Everyone equal?
Real estate is a sound investment in most situations. What investments do you hold?

Re: Dem debate best moments

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:53 pm
by Momto2boys973
OMG, it’s going to be painfully amusing. 2 old farts so out of contact with reality, one more stupid than the other, going into a debate.
It can either be hysterical or sad, depending on your view of life 😂
AZLizardLady wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:32 pm I gotta say....for as many digs that were made toward Bloomberg, he actually did make some good ones himself, particularly at Sanders from the snippets I've been seeing on the news and Twitter of the debate last night.

I don't believe Bloomberg will be able to become the Democrat primary candidate. I do strongly feel that Sanders will ultimately take that from all of them and it will be THEN that I watch a political debate.

To see Sanders vs President Trump on a debate stage will be, IMO and at the minimum, quite entertaining.