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Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:02 pm
by SouthernIslander
29again wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:54 pm
Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:36 pm
29again wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:10 pm
Hmmmm. I went and looked this up, because some members seem to think that lynchings only "belong" to a certain demographic. So, checking "lynching meaning" brings up quite a number of dictionary and vocabulary sites, and none of them use a race in defining lynching.
No race owns the term, it is not solely applicable to one race. By the definition, yes, Trump is quite right on this.
In this country they do. According to the NAACP, about 80% of lynchings were black people in the southern states, most in Mississippi, Georgia and Texas. White people in the south thought the freed slaves were getting too much power. White people got away with murder back then if it was a black person.
Learn your American history, especially about the south after the Civil War. Read about some of the specific lynchings that were recorded. It was 100% about race. I can’t believe that kind of ignorance is still out there.
White people were lynched in western states, the wild Wild West back then, but usually for murder or cattle theft or an actual crime. Big difference. .
mob lynching meaning, lynching meaning in hindi
Lynching - definition of lynching by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/lynching
lynching - putting a person to death by mob action without due process of law. murder, slaying, execution - unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being.
Lynching | Definition of Lynching at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/lynching
Lynching definition, to put to death, especially by hanging, by mob action and without legal authority. See more.
Lynching - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching
Lynching is a premeditated extrajudicial killing by a group. It is most often used to characterize informal public executions by a mob in order to punish an alleged transgressor, convicted transgressor, or to intimidate a group. It can also be an extreme form of informal group social control, and it is often conducted with the display of a public spectacle for maximum intimidation. Instances of lynchings and similar mob violence can be found in every society. In the United States, lynchings of A
LYNCHING | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lynching
lynching definition: the act of killing someone without a legal trial, usually by hanging (= killing using a rope around…. Learn more.
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None of these sources indicate that the word should only be used in relation to blacks. The word itself is not a racist word, nor does it belong to one race.
I do know my history, thank you very much. Yes, there was a time in our history when blacks made up the majority of victims, however, they were not the only victims. What I do not know is why the Left feels such a need to redefine our words. I think the answer to that might be quite interesting.
What does “black people weren’t the only ones lynched” have to do with this?
The woman in the article didn’t say that or the offense was limited to Black people.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:18 pm
by Lemons
29again wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:54 pm
Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:36 pm
29again wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:10 pm
Hmmmm. I went and looked this up, because some members seem to think that lynchings only "belong" to a certain demographic. So, checking "lynching meaning" brings up quite a number of dictionary and vocabulary sites, and none of them use a race in defining lynching.
No race owns the term, it is not solely applicable to one race. By the definition, yes, Trump is quite right on this.
In this country they do. According to the NAACP, about 80% of lynchings were black people in the southern states, most in Mississippi, Georgia and Texas. White people in the south thought the freed slaves were getting too much power. White people got away with murder back then if it was a black person.
Learn your American history, especially about the south after the Civil War. Read about some of the specific lynchings that were recorded. It was 100% about race. I can’t believe that kind of ignorance is still out there.
White people were lynched in western states, the wild Wild West back then, but usually for murder or cattle theft or an actual crime. Big difference. .
mob lynching meaning, lynching meaning in hindi
Lynching - definition of lynching by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/lynching
lynching - putting a person to death by mob action without due process of law. murder, slaying, execution - unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being.
Lynching | Definition of Lynching at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/lynching
Lynching definition, to put to death, especially by hanging, by mob action and without legal authority. See more.
Lynching - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching
Lynching is a premeditated extrajudicial killing by a group. It is most often used to characterize informal public executions by a mob in order to punish an alleged transgressor, convicted transgressor, or to intimidate a group. It can also be an extreme form of informal group social control, and it is often conducted with the display of a public spectacle for maximum intimidation. Instances of lynchings and similar mob violence can be found in every society. In the United States, lynchings of A
LYNCHING | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lynching
lynching definition: the act of killing someone without a legal trial, usually by hanging (= killing using a rope around…. Learn more.
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None of these sources indicate that the word should only be used in relation to blacks. The word itself is not a racist word, nor does it belong to one race.
I do know my history, thank you very much. Yes, there was a time in our history when blacks made up the majority of victims, however, they were not the only victims. What I do not know is why the Left feels such a need to redefine our words. I think the answer to that might be quite interesting.
I’m sorry, what do dictionary meanings of a word have to do with American history.
There are probably countries all over the world that have used lynchings for various reasons on various people, HOWEVER, in the United States lynching was used as a way to terrorize black people. When white people were lynched in the South it was because the white person helped a black person or were anti-lynching and public about it. Just like white people were murdered in the South in the 1960s for the sole reason of supporting civil rights.
The confederate states were where most were taken place. After the civil war black men were opening their own businesses, creating homes for themselves, etc. threatening working class whites. The KKK weren’t targeting white men were they.
To claim lynching in America had nothing to do with race is like saying slavery in America had nothing to do with race. Just ridiculous.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:26 am
by BionicBunny
I don’t think either side should use hitler, Nazis, the holocaust, concentration camps, etc. to compare anything. That’s not saying I’m against saying “hitler did this or said that” comments like that. It’s things like the comparison of immigration detention centers and concentration camps that I felt was wrong. A comparison like that shouldn’t be made. Just like someone else said though, the lynching analogy is like saying a witch hunt. People Just want to make a big deal out of it because Trump said it. The same people upset probably were perfectly fine with AOCs concentration camp comments.
Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:22 pm
It’s a terrible analogy just as using lynching for an investigation. Not with America’s history of lynchings in southern states.
But since many republicans use the Hitler reference too (see my example of two of them) and the republican Tea Party used to prance around with signs of Obama with a Hitler mustache, I didn’t know which Them you were talking about.
BionicBunny wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:48 pm
I thought it was pretty obvious who “ them” were considering we heard of many Democrats making this comparison in the news. The biggest one being AOC.
Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:14 pm
Who is "them"? Lawmakers use Hitler inappropriately all the time. Both sides. Two idiot Republican southern lawmakers who don't know their history compared modern day democratic socialism to fascism and Hitler. Trying to make people fear democrats. We deserve better from a President to know his history and not misuse it for personal gain.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:44 am
by AnonXxdarkfoxx1
What does the right say? Oh yes, "f**k your feelings!" Poor snowflakes are upset that their messiah is going down.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:54 am
by Momto2boys973
He just keeps showing what a disgusting POS he is and an embarrassment to America.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:07 am
by Deleted User 203
He either stuck his foot in his mouth yet again or, knowing the feeding frenzy that using a word like "lynching" would cause in today's society, he threw that out there for his own twisted shits and giggles.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:25 am
by Lemons
AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:07 am
He either stuck his foot in his mouth yet again or, knowing the feeding frenzy that using a word like "lynching" would cause in today's society, he threw that out there for his own twisted shits and giggles.
Just think. We might have a president who throws things out there for twisted sick reasons.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:27 am
by Della
29again wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:10 pm
Hmmmm. I went and looked this up, because some members seem to think that lynchings only "belong" to a certain demographic. So, checking "lynching meaning" brings up quite a number of dictionary and vocabulary sites, and none of them use a race in defining lynching.
No race owns the term, it is not solely applicable to one race. By the definition, yes, Trump is quite right on this.
True, many people of all races were hung. However, how many black people were given a trial first?
There's a difference between a legal hanging and a lynching, imo.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:45 am
by Momto2boys973
“Concentration camp” also doesn’t belong to Jews since there have been many concentration camps for all kinds of prisoners around the world. However, you can’t deny that if a German rich guy was imprisoned for theft and embezzlement and he said that he feels as if he’s in a concentration camp that it wouldn’t be a slap in the face for Jews. Because in the history of Germany, concentration camp are strongly associated with Jews since they were the most targeted group during a particular dark time in German history. Even if other groups were also imprisoned, the one more actively persecuted and imprisoned in concentration camps were Jews.
In that same way, in American history, the group mostly associated with lynchings have been African Americans. So just as that imaginary German jerk would be slapping the face of Jews around the world by minimizing concentration camps by comparing them to the justified consequence of his actions, the very real American jerk slapped the face of the African American community by comparing his well deserved consequence of his actions to a “lynching”.
But since you brought in the definitions, please explain how a completely legal and justified investigation and prosecution compares to “lynching”. How is Trump’s comparison any valid?
29again wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:10 pm
Hmmmm. I went and looked this up, because some members seem to think that lynchings only "belong" to a certain demographic. So, checking "lynching meaning" brings up quite a number of dictionary and vocabulary sites, and none of them use a race in defining lynching.
No race owns the term, it is not solely applicable to one race. By the definition, yes, Trump is quite right on this.
Re: Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:48 am
by Momto2boys973
Exactly.
This is another example of what I was saying in the other post: he knows what to say to create a hoopla. And that hoopla makes his loyal base jump to his defense, regardless of what he says and what connotations his words carry. I don’t deny that many times he tweets before he thinks, but in some cases- and I’m thinking this was one of them- it’s a well thought choice of words to both irritate his opponents and appease his base.
AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:07 am
He either stuck his foot in his mouth yet again or, knowing the feeding frenzy that using a word like "lynching" would cause in today's society, he threw that out there for his own twisted shits and giggles.