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Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:46 am
by Deleted User 1344
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/nyre ... acist.html
17 guns, grenade launcher,Nazi paraphernalia found in his place.
But it’s his 2nd Amendment right!
Pew pew pew
So manly

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am
by morgan
Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:47 am
by Momto2boys973
That’s the dumbest argument ever.
So let’s not have laws at all, since criminals will always find ways to break them. We might as way go easy on rape, because someone will find a way to do it anyway.

If anything, this shows that gun control is so lax that it’s so easy to find a whole arsenal of illegal ones. If laws were stronger, he probably wouldn’t find it so easy to have all those guns, not to mention grenades.

When “gun control laws” really is just a background check on records, it’s so easy for everybody to get one. It’s not that hard to jump that little hurdle. If gun control meant stricter background checks, including checking those people close to the one requesting permission, if there was a ban on assault weapons, if there was an inspection at the person’s property before granting permission, then it would also make it harder for criminals to get their hands on guns.
morgan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:01 am
by Deleted User 1344
I know!!!
That’s what occurs to me every time someone spews that “ criminals will always get guns” argument.
🙄
Guns are way too available and people just want to sell them and make money.
The background check issue is another ridiculous argument- they’re so often incomplete or missing but some people insist that they’re always done. Nope.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:47 am That’s the dumbest argument ever.
So let’s not have laws at all, since criminals will always find ways to break them. We might as way go easy on rape, because someone will find a way to do it anyway.

If anything, this shows that gun control is so lax that it’s so easy to find a whole arsenal of illegal ones. If laws were stronger, he probably wouldn’t find it so easy to have all those guns, not to mention grenades.

When “gun control laws” really is just a background check on records, it’s so easy for everybody to get one. It’s not that hard to jump that little hurdle. If gun control meant stricter background checks, including checking those people close to the one requesting permission, if there was a ban on assault weapons, if there was an inspection at the person’s property before granting permission, then it would also make it harder for criminals to get their hands on guns.
morgan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:02 am
by ReadingRainbow
It’s insane how many people want anarchy instead of laws.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:47 am That’s the dumbest argument ever.
So let’s not have laws at all, since criminals will always find ways to break them. We might as way go easy on rape, because someone will find a way to do it anyway.

If anything, this shows that gun control is so lax that it’s so easy to find a whole arsenal of illegal ones. If laws were stronger, he probably wouldn’t find it so easy to have all those guns, not to mention grenades.

When “gun control laws” really is just a background check on records, it’s so easy for everybody to get one. It’s not that hard to jump that little hurdle. If gun control meant stricter background checks, including checking those people close to the one requesting permission, if there was a ban on assault weapons, if there was an inspection at the person’s property before granting permission, then it would also make it harder for criminals to get their hands on guns.
morgan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:38 pm
by Momto2boys973
Hypocritical anarchy, probably. I’m sure that if we suggested that since people manage to sneak in the country, anyway, that we may as well just open the borders and let everyone in, no questions asked, they’ll flip over it and see the dumbness of that argument. Seriously, if illegal immigrants already find ways to get in, why make it harder?
ReadingRainbow wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:02 am It’s insane how many people want anarchy instead of laws.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:47 am That’s the dumbest argument ever.
So let’s not have laws at all, since criminals will always find ways to break them. We might as way go easy on rape, because someone will find a way to do it anyway.

If anything, this shows that gun control is so lax that it’s so easy to find a whole arsenal of illegal ones. If laws were stronger, he probably wouldn’t find it so easy to have all those guns, not to mention grenades.

When “gun control laws” really is just a background check on records, it’s so easy for everybody to get one. It’s not that hard to jump that little hurdle. If gun control meant stricter background checks, including checking those people close to the one requesting permission, if there was a ban on assault weapons, if there was an inspection at the person’s property before granting permission, then it would also make it harder for criminals to get their hands on guns.
morgan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:56 pm
by Lexy
morgan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.
A felon in possession of a firearm? Imagine that!! I guess he didn't give a shit about the laws in New Jersey. Most criminals don't care about obeying society's laws.

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:58 pm
by ReadingRainbow
Lol right?

Migrants will get in whether it’s legal or not so these laws are pointless...

Criminals will get guns whether it’s legal or not so there’s no point to gun laws...

People will drive drunk if they want to whether it’s legal or not so what’s the point of all these laws?

Better to just live in anarchy and let all this just work itself out...
Momto2boys973 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:38 pm Hypocritical anarchy, probably. I’m sure that if we suggested that since people manage to sneak in the country, anyway, that we may as well just open the borders and let everyone in, no questions asked, they’ll flip over it and see the dumbness of that argument. Seriously, if illegal immigrants already find ways to get in, why make it harder?
ReadingRainbow wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:02 am It’s insane how many people want anarchy instead of laws.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:47 am That’s the dumbest argument ever.
So let’s not have laws at all, since criminals will always find ways to break them. We might as way go easy on rape, because someone will find a way to do it anyway.

If anything, this shows that gun control is so lax that it’s so easy to find a whole arsenal of illegal ones. If laws were stronger, he probably wouldn’t find it so easy to have all those guns, not to mention grenades.

When “gun control laws” really is just a background check on records, it’s so easy for everybody to get one. It’s not that hard to jump that little hurdle. If gun control meant stricter background checks, including checking those people close to the one requesting permission, if there was a ban on assault weapons, if there was an inspection at the person’s property before granting permission, then it would also make it harder for criminals to get their hands on guns.


Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:58 pm
by Momto2boys973
And again... does that mean then that stricter laws shouldn’t be put in place so that it’s not that easy breezy for criminals to break them?
So why build a wall? Or invest on border patrol? Or have the concentration camps? Illegal immigrants will find a way to sneak in, anyway, right? So let’s not bother with making it harder, let’s just tolerate it and get it over with.
Lexy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:56 pm
morgan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.
A felon in possession of a firearm? Imagine that!! I guess he didn't give a shit about the laws in New Jersey. Most criminals don't care about obeying society's laws.

Re: Sussex county NY man and his weaponry, Nazi paraphernalia

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:59 pm
by morgan
Lexy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:56 pm
morgan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:04 am Actually it's not his 2nd amendment right - he was a felon who had the weapons illegally. He had weapons that are already considered illegal on their own. This is just an example of how criminals do not follow the laws and will find a way to obtain weapons. Always.
A felon in possession of a firearm? Imagine that!! I guess he didn't give a shit about the laws in New Jersey. Most criminals don't care about obeying society's laws.
Notice how passionately I was attacked by my usual fanbase I'm getting for pointing out to Libby that he was in no way practicing any 2nd amendment right?