8 out of the top ten 10 are "Blue" states

[KnotaDinghy]

My big blue State didn't make this list until a republican Governor was elected.

It’s interesting that OP and her like-minded-peeps don’t seem to live in any of these wonderful “blue” states.

Makes sense, actually

Although Baltimore needs a lot of help still!

[SouthernIslander]

If you’re talking about my comment, I stand behind it. States where everything ranks worst or near worst are all poor southern states. They’re my definition of shit hole. You don’t have to agree, and pointing out hard truths doesn’t necessarily mean division. Is pointing out that I think VT is a great state divisive? Of course not. If some states are on the top, some will be on the bottom.

Also, I don’t have a political party, so it’s not about that.

My state I believe is #20. And you know what. I’m happy with that. Like another said, happiness is really subjective. What makes one happy makes others miserable. This a a great place to live with wonderful people and it’s a great place to raise a family. There are parts of this state however that I would never dream of living. So even different parts of the same state are going to be brings different things.

For people to say “nahah my state is for my party and therefore better” and then to state that the bottom few are “shit holes” just reinforces who are the divisive ones.

This reminds me of the times that Trump called other countries shitholes and said we should vote for him because we are uneducated, jobless and poor. People use stats and/or studies to back "hard truths" to excuse divisive and offensive behavior.

Mississippi (for example) has been ranked in the top 20 for quality of life/natural enviroment, so it really is subjective. I'm not a big fan of up north or too far West, but that is just my preference. Doesn't mean that they are bad and shitty states.

[SouthernIslander]

Honestly, I think it is a mistake to make state rank a political issue or overly dwell on it. I can only speak from my experience but a part of the reason why minority voter turn out is low in some southern states is because they feel neither side gives a f**k about them.

Its much better to encourage people to break the cycle and it doens't matter if the odds are stacked against them vs. facilitating a shaming/insulting enviroment that discourages.

In my nearly 40 years of living in the south, I have never seen that strategy work out well.

[SouthernIslander]

Very interesting. I've recently been considering Washington State as a place to relocate. We like a coastal area, with lots of outdoor activities but within a drive to a major city. Bainbridge Island looks very enticing. Anyone live there?

I love WAState. It's beautiful. I'd love to live along the coast but we have already laid our roots deep with 3 kids.

OT but since you asked: I have family leaving both Seattle and Portland because of the homeless issues. I told them both it's no better here, California, or anywhere in the West for that matter. The East buses them out in droves and drops them off because the temperature is milder and it's legal (in most places) or allowed/tolerated to "camp" AKA pitch a tent and live in it along public property.

I love Portland. Its on my list of favorite cities to visit.

[SouthernIslander]

I'm in Georgia..
#17 overall..
Health care- 39
Education-30 ( I homeschool for a reason)
Economy- 11 ( I believe it due to the building boom here)
Infrastructure-10 ( HAHAHAHAHA!! BS!)
Opportunity-21
Fiscal Stability-9
Crime and Corrections- 27 ( Atlanta.. need I say more?!)
Natural Environment- 20 ( Atlanta is taking over the universe.. it encompasses 39 counties already)

Atlanta is nice, especially the Marietta area.

[Deleted User 969]

Forgive me if I’m missing it, but all I see MS scoring higher in is environment. Everything else (other than middling crime) is the absolute bottom; as bad as it gets.

You glossed over the question I asked about is saying VT is a great state (no, I don’t live there) divisive? Is it only divisive when pointing out the states one doesn’t like? If so, why?

I hate the south. I’m pretty open about my disdain.

If you’re talking about my comment, I stand behind it. States where everything ranks worst or near worst are all poor southern states. They’re my definition of shit hole. You don’t have to agree, and pointing out hard truths doesn’t necessarily mean division. Is pointing out that I think VT is a great state divisive? Of course not. If some states are on the top, some will be on the bottom.

Also, I don’t have a political party, so it’s not about that.

For people to say “nahah my state is for my party and therefore better” and then to state that the bottom few are “shit holes” just reinforces who are the divisive ones.

This reminds me of the times that Trump called other countries shitholes and said we should vote for him because we are uneducated, jobless and poor. People use stats and/or studies to back "hard truths" to excuse divisive and offensive behavior.

Mississippi (for example) has been ranked in the top 20 for quality of life/natural enviroment, so it really is subjective. I'm not a big fan of up north or too far West, but that is just my preference. Doesn't mean that they are bad and shitty states.

[SouthernIslander]

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Forgive me if I’m missing it, but all I see MS scoring higher in is environment. Everything else (other than middling crime) is the absolute bottom; as bad as it gets.

You glossed over the question I asked about is saying VT is a great state (no, I don’t live there) divisive? Is it only divisive when pointing out the states one doesn’t like? If so, why?

I hate the south. I’m pretty open about my disdain.

If you’re talking about my comment, I stand behind it. States where everything ranks worst or near worst are all poor southern states. They’re my definition of shit hole. You don’t have to agree, and pointing out hard truths doesn’t necessarily mean division. Is pointing out that I think VT is a great state divisive? Of course not. If some states are on the top, some will be on the bottom.

Also, I don’t have a political party, so it’s not about that.

This reminds me of the times that Trump called other countries shitholes and said we should vote for him because we are uneducated, jobless and poor. People use stats and/or studies to back "hard truths" to excuse divisive and offensive behavior.

Mississippi (for example) has been ranked in the top 20 for quality of life/natural enviroment, so it really is subjective. I'm not a big fan of up north or too far West, but that is just my preference. Doesn't mean that they are bad and shitty states.

I don’t have a strong opinion about VT and I’ve never lived there to comment.

Why do you have a distain for the south? Did you have a bad experience down here? I am seriously just asking. And I never said the state was perfect.

[Lemons]

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Forgive me if I’m missing it, but all I see MS scoring higher in is environment. Everything else (other than middling crime) is the absolute bottom; as bad as it gets.

You glossed over the question I asked about is saying VT is a great state (no, I don’t live there) divisive? Is it only divisive when pointing out the states one doesn’t like? If so, why?

I hate the south. I’m pretty open about my disdain.

This reminds me of the times that Trump called other countries shitholes and said we should vote for him because we are uneducated, jobless and poor. People use stats and/or studies to back "hard truths" to excuse divisive and offensive behavior.

Mississippi (for example) has been ranked in the top 20 for quality of life/natural enviroment, so it really is subjective. I'm not a big fan of up north or too far West, but that is just my preference. Doesn't mean that they are bad and shitty states.

I don’t have a strong opinion about VT and I’ve never lived there to comment.

Why do you have a distain for the south? Did you have a bad experience down here? I am seriously just asking. And I never said the state was perfect.

I’ve been down south but not Mississippi. I think a lot of people might have a negative opinion because of reputation and movies. Missippi Burning, Four Little Girls, Selma, The Long Walk Home, The Murder of Emmet Till are some examples based on true events.

Now the southern states are trying to overturn Roe v Wade, something only religious fanatics would want. It’s like what is going on down there? Another issue is why aren’t southern states legalizing medical marijuana?

[Deleted User 969]

I think you misunderstood. I wasn’t asking your opinion of Vermont itself; I was asking if it’s divisive to say I think a state is great, or only to say one is bad.

I dislike much about the south: the religious right, the heat, the bugs, country music, the food, the slow pace, the dearth of great schools, gun prevalence, the fake politeness, etc.. It’s just not for me, and I’ve given it a fair shake.

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Forgive me if I’m missing it, but all I see MS scoring higher in is environment. Everything else (other than middling crime) is the absolute bottom; as bad as it gets.

You glossed over the question I asked about is saying VT is a great state (no, I don’t live there) divisive? Is it only divisive when pointing out the states one doesn’t like? If so, why?

I hate the south. I’m pretty open about my disdain.

This reminds me of the times that Trump called other countries shitholes and said we should vote for him because we are uneducated, jobless and poor. People use stats and/or studies to back "hard truths" to excuse divisive and offensive behavior.

Mississippi (for example) has been ranked in the top 20 for quality of life/natural enviroment, so it really is subjective. I'm not a big fan of up north or too far West, but that is just my preference. Doesn't mean that they are bad and shitty states.

I don’t have a strong opinion about VT and I’ve never lived there to comment.

Why do you have a distain for the south? Did you have a bad experience down here? I am seriously just asking. And I never said the state was perfect.

[mcginnisc]

I have lived in Atlanta almost all of my life. ( we spent 4 years in ND with the USAF) I have seen it grow from a small metro area to what it is today. I swear it keeps increasing in size. Marietta is on the other end of the world from where I am due to traffic. We are going up to see friends tomorrow and will be in Marietta. We are meeting them for breakfast at he Marietta Diner at 9 so we have to leave around 7:30ish to get there. We are on the south side of Atlanta about 20 miles south of Hartsfield Jackson.
While there are great areas here, we have a higher crime concentration in metro Atlanta than most of the country. I love living here, but there are things that stink about it...the majority of schools, infrastructure- they keep building crap and never fix the roads to accomodate the new traffic, crime, and well the city takes up the majority of the state.

I'm in Georgia..
#17 overall..
Health care- 39
Education-30 ( I homeschool for a reason)
Economy- 11 ( I believe it due to the building boom here)
Infrastructure-10 ( HAHAHAHAHA!! BS!)
Opportunity-21
Fiscal Stability-9
Crime and Corrections- 27 ( Atlanta.. need I say more?!)
Natural Environment- 20 ( Atlanta is taking over the universe.. it encompasses 39 counties already)

Atlanta is nice, especially the Marietta area.