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Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm
by ButchersWife
I just love Meghan.
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
by Deleted User 276
DSamuels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm
Lemons wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:43 pm
DSamuels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:01 am
Not really. A lot of conservatives never really liked McCain.
But they didn’t start attacking him with such vileness until Trump put a target on his back.
If you say so. But there was a reason a lot of people referred to him as a RINO way before Trump.
I keep seeing conservatives stating this but can find nothing reported prior to 2015 that McCain was a RINO even during the Clinton administration when the term RINO became popular. McCain voted 87% party line prior to 2015 and 81% since. Are you sure that "people referred to him as RINO way before Trump" or did this labeling occur with the rise of the Alt-Right. Can you possible find references to McCain being a RINO prior to 2015 or are you going on memory?
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:46 pm
by Billie.jeens
msb64 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
DSamuels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm
Lemons wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:43 pm
But they didn’t start attacking him with such vileness until Trump put a target on his back.
If you say so. But there was a reason a lot of people referred to him as a RINO way before Trump.
I keep seeing conservatives stating this but can find nothing reported prior to 2015 that McCain was a RINO even during the Clinton administration when the term RINO became popular. McCain voted 87% party line prior to 2015 and 81% since. Are you sure that "people referred to him as RINO way before Trump" or did this labeling occur with the rise of the Alt-Right. Can you possible find references to McCain being a RINO prior to 2015 or are you going on memory?
Forget the word RINO
Look for articles or interviews where he trashed his party
That's why we didn't like him.
His constituency was the media not his voters.
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:49 pm
by Libbylu2
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:46 pm
msb64 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
DSamuels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm
If you say so. But there was a reason a lot of people referred to him as a RINO way before Trump.
I keep seeing conservatives stating this but can find nothing reported prior to 2015 that McCain was a RINO even during the Clinton administration when the term RINO became popular. McCain voted 87% party line prior to 2015 and 81% since. Are you sure that "people referred to him as RINO way before Trump" or did this labeling occur with the rise of the Alt-Right. Can you possible find references to McCain being a RINO prior to 2015 or are you going on memory?
Forget the word RINO
Look for articles or interviews where he trashed his party
That's why we didn't like him.
His constituency was the media not his voters.
BS
He had the right idea and he criticized his party which was a wise move.
If they had listened to him, the Republican Party might be worthwhile and believable now instead of just a bunch of self involved, greedy , unamerican frauds.
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:01 pm
by Billie.jeens
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:46 pm
msb64 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
DSamuels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm
If you say so. But there was a reason a lot of people referred to him as a RINO way before Trump.
I keep seeing conservatives stating this but can find nothing reported prior to 2015 that McCain was a RINO even during the Clinton administration when the term RINO became popular. McCain voted 87% party line prior to 2015 and 81% since. Are you sure that "people referred to him as RINO way before Trump" or did this labeling occur with the rise of the Alt-Right. Can you possible find references to McCain being a RINO prior to 2015 or are you going on memory?
Forget the word RINO
Look for articles or interviews where he trashed his party
That's why we didn't like him.
His constituency was the media not his voters.
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:03 pm
by Libbylu2
ButchersWife wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm
I just love Meghan.
Me too
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:05 am
by DSamuels
msb64 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
DSamuels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm
Lemons wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:43 pm
But they didn’t start attacking him with such vileness until Trump put a target on his back.
If you say so. But there was a reason a lot of people referred to him as a RINO way before Trump.
I keep seeing conservatives stating this but can find nothing reported prior to 2015 that McCain was a RINO even during the Clinton administration when the term RINO became popular. McCain voted 87% party line prior to 2015 and 81% since. Are you sure that "people referred to him as RINO way before Trump" or did this labeling occur with the rise of the Alt-Right. Can you possible find references to McCain being a RINO prior to 2015 or are you going on memory?
I don’t know the exact date and I can’t really find one. I think it may go back to his “Maverick” days. He was proud to be called a maverick, and Mavericks tend to be more independent or moderate.
It may go back to 2001-2002 when his favorable rating was higher among democrats than it was from republicans.
Republicans had a rocky road with McCain as well. Gallup found that more Democrats than Republicans had a favorable view of McCain in 2001 and 2002.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.review ... ident/amp/
I don’t have a date, but I remember him being referred to that way for a long time. Since he ran for president, maybe even before that.
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:23 am
by Lemons
DSamuels wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:05 am
msb64 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
DSamuels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm
If you say so. But there was a reason a lot of people referred to him as a RINO way before Trump.
I keep seeing conservatives stating this but can find nothing reported prior to 2015 that McCain was a RINO even during the Clinton administration when the term RINO became popular. McCain voted 87% party line prior to 2015 and 81% since. Are you sure that "people referred to him as RINO way before Trump" or did this labeling occur with the rise of the Alt-Right. Can you possible find references to McCain being a RINO prior to 2015 or are you going on memory?
I don’t know the exact date and I can’t really find one. I think it may go back to his “Maverick” days. He was proud to be called a maverick, and Mavericks tend to be more independent or moderate.
Wasn't the fact that Trump wasn't a typical republican politician some of his appeal? I think you're wrong about this and this is backed up by your not being able to find anything. As msb64 said, this has more to do with the new extremism, alt right and the following of Trump regardless if it makes sense.
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:36 am
by Deleted User 203
I sincerely hope she's in some type of grief counseling.
I get it...she loved her dad. But not everyone did. That's politics and I have to wonder if John McCain were still alive, if he wouldn't tell her to pull back on the throttle a little?
It's at the point where you wait for her to make yet another unhinged comment.
Re: Meghan McCain tells Trump “No one will ever love you like they loved my father” in response to tweet bashing John Mc
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:34 am
by DSamuels
Lemons wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:23 am
DSamuels wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:05 am
msb64 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
I keep seeing conservatives stating this but can find nothing reported prior to 2015 that McCain was a RINO even during the Clinton administration when the term RINO became popular. McCain voted 87% party line prior to 2015 and 81% since. Are you sure that "people referred to him as RINO way before Trump" or did this labeling occur with the rise of the Alt-Right. Can you possible find references to McCain being a RINO prior to 2015 or are you going on memory?
I don’t know the exact date and I can’t really find one. I think it may go back to his “Maverick” days. He was proud to be called a maverick, and Mavericks tend to be more independent or moderate.
Wasn't the fact that Trump wasn't a typical republican politician some of his appeal? I think you're wrong about this and this is backed up by your not being able to find anything. As msb64 said, this has more to do with the new extremism, alt right and the following of Trump regardless if it makes sense.
The term RINO has been around since the 1920's. It is not new by any means. I just haven’t found a specific first time McCain was called it. In the Urban Dictionary under “John McCain” there were several references that he was a RINO dated various years in the 2000's.
That Trump wasn’t a career politician was and is part of his appeal. The republicans that he criticizes the most seem to be the ones that a lot of conservatives think are RINOs.
I have never thought of McCain as a conservative. He’s always been more moderate which is why democrats liked him and conservatives did not. That isn’t something new.