Chris Pratt responds to Ellen Page's criticism of his church on LGBTQ issues, says its members 'open their doors to all.
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I am not a big fan of mega churches that preach prosperity gospel, I don't care how "hipster" they are. Pratt certainly has a right to worship what and where he wishes but he is the one who brought up his religion and church in an interview. Don't others then have the right to question? I know that I certainly questioned Cruise on his association with Scientology. Am I not allowed have an opinion about Pratt's relationship with Hillsong? And frankly the idea that either Page or Pratt are infringing on each other's rights is absurd. Page had, IMO, a valid question and Pratt gave a good response.
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You know, part of me wishes I could disagree, but I can’t as those are the loudest voices.Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:42 pmThat was a while back -Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:39 pm Then she should probably not go to his church. Really this shouldn’t be a religion vs lgbtq divide. Respect and tolerance doesn’t mean towards just what you agree with. He can be a member of his church without infringing on his human rights and she can extend the same to him. Not rocket science.
Now it is not enough to accept what one might find abhorent - one has to embrace and promote it.
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Where out of all that did you get hate? Disagreeing with something, thinking it’s wrong doesn’t equate to hate. Tolerance is fake and meaningless if it’s only given to those we agree with. How can that even be defined as tolerance? Be cautious with your intolerance otherwise, you become what you believe your fighting against.Anonadon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm It’s hard to tolerate hate.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:28 pm Well, that’s when that little thing called “tolerance” should kick in, especially in those that demand it. To say that those that I perceive as intolerant aren’t worthy of tolerance is the perfect example of hypocrisy and incongruence. It doesn’t require a great amount of effort to tolerate those you agree with or even those you don’t disagree with. Tolerance is only tested when faced with those you disagree with. And that’s when the true colors come out. Tolerance isn’t measured by the amount of people you can agree with, it’s measured in how you act towards those you disagree with.
I believe homosexual acts are wrong. However, that doesn’t mean I mistreat individuals for doing that, or that I go around trying to make their choice of partners illegal, or I’m disrespecting anyone over it. I have the ability to tolerate that people will believe differently and act according to what they believe and that doesn’t make them any less worthy of respect. The only thing I would ask is the same consideration in return. I won’t compromise what I believe is right and true to protect anyone’s bruised egos, though. I just wouldn’t bruise those egos any further.
The truth is, we all have a bit of hypocrisy and a level of intolerance and we should. But one needs to carefully weigh what one is intolerant of and how hypocritical one is when condemning others for intolerance.
Chris Pratt is ignorant in his rich white privilege. He's a rich celebrity. Of course, the church is going to 'look the other way' regarding his divorce.
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Wait, what if he were a rich black celebrity?pinkbutterfly66 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:43 pm Chris Pratt is ignorant in his rich white privilege. He's a rich celebrity. Of course, the church is going to 'look the other way' regarding his divorce.
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Rich male privilege of courseHanSolo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:51 pmWait, what if he were a rich black celebrity?pinkbutterfly66 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:43 pm Chris Pratt is ignorant in his rich white privilege. He's a rich celebrity. Of course, the church is going to 'look the other way' regarding his divorce.
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I agree but we can't say we've got freedom of religion except for the ones we disagree with. Or I'd send any of them that come knocking on my door or handle snakes on today's version of the Mayflower to a new world. Long as they're not denying insulin to a diabetic child or something along those lines they're entitled to their beliefs.Anonadon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:17 pm Ellen Page is annoying, but, man, it’s pretty hard to be tolerant of people/organizations that believe that it’s wrong for two adults to love each other just because they both have vaginas.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:54 pm Maybe she should do as she preaches and be tolerant. He’s entitled to whatever beliefs he has and I’m yet to see him push those beliefs on others or make any anti-gay comments. It’s quite possible to be a part of a religion that condemns ho sexuality without hat meaning mistreating and disrespecting other people and deny them rights.
So if she glorifies herself as an “accepting” and “tolerating” person, she should accept and tolerate that some people have different beliefs and, as long as they’re not hurting anyone, they have a right to those beliefs. If she completely disagrees with that Church’s views, then by all means, find another path. The beauty of living in a free society is that you can do that. Maybe she should be granting that same freedom to others.
Is being critical of someone's religion denying their freedom of religion.Pjmm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:38 pmI agree but we can't say we've got freedom of religion except for the ones we disagree with. Or I'd send any of them that come knocking on my door or handle snakes on today's version of the Mayflower to a new world. Long as they're not denying insulin to a diabetic child or something along those lines they're entitled to their beliefs.Anonadon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:17 pm Ellen Page is annoying, but, man, it’s pretty hard to be tolerant of people/organizations that believe that it’s wrong for two adults to love each other just because they both have vaginas.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:54 pm Maybe she should do as she preaches and be tolerant. He’s entitled to whatever beliefs he has and I’m yet to see him push those beliefs on others or make any anti-gay comments. It’s quite possible to be a part of a religion that condemns ho sexuality without hat meaning mistreating and disrespecting other people and deny them rights.
So if she glorifies herself as an “accepting” and “tolerating” person, she should accept and tolerate that some people have different beliefs and, as long as they’re not hurting anyone, they have a right to those beliefs. If she completely disagrees with that Church’s views, then by all means, find another path. The beauty of living in a free society is that you can do that. Maybe she should be granting that same freedom to others.