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Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:58 am
by AllofFive19
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:10 am
AllofFive19 wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:28 am
29again wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:05 pm But lots of those "brown people" happen to be Catholic. Isn't that part of Christian?

Actually there are Christians who don't consider Catholics to be a part of Christianity

And you're saying they have a double standard when it comes to locking their own doors, but not wanting an actual border, right?

To 29again -I don't want Trump's border wall. It's a publicity stunt and a waste of money (IMO and environmentally unsafe (links at bottom), but here's the thing... We DO have a border and we do have border security. Each one of you who do the whole "if you don't like Trump's wall, then keep your doors unlocked and let the whole world in because you don't believe in border security" are forgetting the simple fact that America has a border, marked, in some cases, with barriers and we have border security.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... al-damage/
https://m.govexec.com/management/2018/1 ... ms/152687/
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-bo ... story.html
Catholics were the first Christians. Even Martin Luther recognized this fact, otherwise there would have been no Reformation and the Protestant religions and their bible (which was put together by Catholics) wouldn't exist. Some seem to ignore facts on purpose.
Yup

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:26 am
by Linaluo
libbylu wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:27 pm
Linaluo wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:17 pm
libbylu wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:51 am

Good question.
I suppose it helps Donnie feel powerful.
DId it make Obama and dems powerful when they were going to ?
I don’t know. There were many other government shutdowns in the past, too.
Done by:
Carter
Reagan,
Clinton
And a total of 20.
Do you want to talk about all of the shutdowns?
Or should we stay on topic.
Trump’s wall and Angel Mothers
🙄
LMFAO SO Obama must have loved the Power as did Clinton, Carter and Reagan.

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:19 am
by Pjmm
Lemons wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:21 pm And why are these "angel" mothers so important that their opinion on a wall should matter?
This. They can forget it far as I'm concerned. Use the money for education, health care, hell fixing things that cause algae that's a health hazard to humans and sea life. Then we'll talk. Trump ignores the real threat which is what Russia did to interfere in our election. THAT'S the threat not immigrants who may or may not scale a wall.

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:07 am
by jas
libbylu wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:24 am So many people still think “the Wall” will keep their brown skinned enemies out!
Duh.
Are you really that ignorant to think that wanting to keep illegals out and having them come legally has to do with the color of their skin?

What "so many" people want is a change to the system. From stiff penalties for business who hire illegals, to making the pathway to citizenship easier. LEGAL is the key word. Most of "us" could care less about the color of skin.

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:34 am
by libbylu
jas wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:07 am
libbylu wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:24 am So many people still think “the Wall” will keep their brown skinned enemies out!
Duh.
Are you really that ignorant to think that wanting to keep illegals out and having them come legally has to do with the color of their skin?

What "so many" people want is a change to the system. From stiff penalties for business who hire illegals, to making the pathway to citizenship easier. LEGAL is the key word. Most of "us" could care less about the color of skin.
Okay if that’s really how you feel.
It just seemed that too many posters here have a lot of prejudices .
I’m in agreement concerning the more efficient effective faster pathway to citizenship .

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:07 pm
by Lexy
libbylu wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:34 am
jas wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:07 am
libbylu wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:24 am So many people still think “the Wall” will keep their brown skinned enemies out!
Duh.
Are you really that ignorant to think that wanting to keep illegals out and having them come legally has to do with the color of their skin?

What "so many" people want is a change to the system. From stiff penalties for business who hire illegals, to making the pathway to citizenship easier. LEGAL is the key word. Most of "us" could care less about the color of skin.
Okay if that’s really how you feel.
It just seemed that too many posters here have a lot of prejudices .
I’m in agreement concerning the more efficient effective faster pathway to citizenship .
Many of us have said many times we want them to come LEGALLY. I agree with Jas's statement 100%

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:09 pm
by Deleted User 1074
MC08 wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:43 am I don’t understand why we don’t just hand out work permits and social security cards at the Mexican border after running a background check. Voila - resolves the illegal immigrant problem for far less than $5 billion.
so just f**k everyone else waiting to come in who doesnt live next door? and what about health screenings, background checks, etc? or should they not have to be screened either?

one more question, is there a limit?? the majority of the world lives in poverty, has no education and limited job skills. We are increasingly headed towards automation. Even heart surgeons are forecasted to be replaced by robots. So how will we support billions of unskilled, uneducated people? surely BILLIONS would flood in if your proposal were enacted. As it stands, these immigrants are a net negative. Even if they worked legally, their incomes would be too low to be taxed, but most would be unemployed if we allowed in the number you propose. they use public benefits, public services and contribute no more than sales tax. Do you think the US has unlimited resources?

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:19 pm
by Deleted User 1074
libbylu wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:34 am
jas wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:07 am
libbylu wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:24 am So many people still think “the Wall” will keep their brown skinned enemies out!
Duh.
Are you really that ignorant to think that wanting to keep illegals out and having them come legally has to do with the color of their skin?

What "so many" people want is a change to the system. From stiff penalties for business who hire illegals, to making the pathway to citizenship easier. LEGAL is the key word. Most of "us" could care less about the color of skin.
Okay if that’s really how you feel.
It just seemed that too many posters here have a lot of prejudices .
I’m in agreement concerning the more efficient effective faster pathway to citizenship .
I think its discrimination and favoritism to have roughly 90% of all immigrants come from latin America. why do they get priority?? and skin color isn't a factor for me but merit is. We don't need millions of unskilled illiterate migrants. Automation is going to replace the majority of all manual labor. then what will they do? they are on average 10-20 IQ points lower than the average American. They are a net negative financially. Why would you increase the number of citizens using public aid and not contributing to the system? oh that's right- rich elites LOVE having their 3rd world slave labor and democrats love the free votes of people who are easily manipulated and controlled. immigration is a privilege, not a right.

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:36 pm
by Deleted User 276
More than 1 million immigrants arrive in the U.S. each year. In 2016, the top country of origin for new immigrants coming into the U.S. was India, with 126,000 people, followed by Mexico (124,000), China (121,000) and Cuba (41,000).

By race and ethnicity, more Asian immigrants than Hispanic immigrants have arrived in the U.S. each year since 2010. Immigration from Latin America slowed following the Great Recession, particularly from Mexico, which has seen net decreases in U.S. immigration over the past few years.

Asians are projected to become the largest immigrant group in the U.S. by 2055, surpassing Hispanics. Pew Research Center estimates indicate that in 2065, Asians will make up some 38% of all immigrants; Hispanics, 31%; whites, 20%; and blacks, 9%.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... mmigrants/

Re: Angel Mothers urge Democrats to fund border wall

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:38 pm
by Poietes
Lemons wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:21 pm And why are these "angel" mothers so important that their opinion on a wall should matter?
I suppose for the same reasons people thought/think the Sandy Hook parents’ opinions matter on gun control.