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How long can he sustain a profit loss for before he goes under? He is still paying everyone like normal but low production is going out? There has to be a point, yes?
Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:21 pm It’s not that he’s unwilling to be there himself. It’s that he’s keeping ALL areas separated. Factory workers aren’t going into the office either. It’s minimizing everyone’s contact. Why is that so hard to understand? What’s elitist about it? Because he works in an office and their work in a factory? Well, that’s the case always. Each has a job to do. The same job they had to do prior Covid 19, but now they have to avoid personal contact. Out of safety, not elitism. My husband isn’t more safe being in the office. We’re not talking about he being alone and protected there and 50-60 workers being out at risk all working together.
My husband even offered to provide private transportation for his workers so they don’t have to take public transportation and out themselves at risk. How’s that for caring for his workers well being? It costs money, and a time when production is already low precisely because he’s limiting contact between the different areas. One area of the factory is open, his office is open and the 2 don’t interact. For the safety of ALL.
If my DH didn’t give a crap, he would’ve fully opened the factory, all areas open to full capacity and he’ll be monitoring everything from home. Some of DHs clients have done exactly that. DH found that reprehensible and when his employees wanted to go to work, he made a complete safety plan for ALL, not for himself.
After all, couldn’t he get infected and then be the one passing it on to his workers if he dropped by the floor? Why is it so hard to understand that these are measures for everyone’s safety? Many workplaces nowadays limit interaction between different areas. It’s not to protect some, it’s to protect all.
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:11 pm Actually the reason why he’s going to the factory is so that his employees can see that they’re there too. They’re all monitored for temperature at the entrance, DH included. He’s going because he knows it’s a morale booster when they see the owners there.
But in fact, his production has been severely lowered because it’s not fully operational everyday. Precisely because he doesn’t want to put employees at risk. Each day just one section works, which means just 3-4 people. It’s seriously cutting into his production, but his employees need the job. He actually hasn’t cut into their salaries even thought their working one day a week instead of five. And they were actually paid the 2 months they weren’t working. They weren’t going to reopen until this was over, but it was his employees who asked him to do it. He complied and is going himself even though he could do everything from our home.

So maybe ask before judging. My husband is protecting everyone with these measures, not himself. And the risks he’s taking, although minimal, he’s doing because his employees need the job and want to work.

Nothing you said changes the fact that your DH is putting his employees on a factory floor that he is unwilling to be on himself. That is elitist and disgusting.
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It’s crazy. Florida is surging in cases right now. I saw an article that they just reported the highest number of new cases of any state since the pandemic began and that if Florida was a country, it would be 4th in the WORLD!! There’s no way in hell we would go to WDW right now. Not to mention walking around in the July heat with masks on sounds miserable. We did go to WDW in early March back before things got bad in the US, so we’ve satisfied our Disney craving for at least a couple years anyway, lol.
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Thankfully, he’s not at a profit loss. Even with lower production, they have managed to make profit. It’s actually kind of miraculous, lol. DH, my sil and fil have lowered their own salaries as well. So that’s why I get pissed when people who don’t know how things are judge my husband as an elitist bastard. He’s trying to keep his employees safe and employed, and he’s making a sacrifice for that to be possible. And yes, he had to take measures to keep everyone as safe as possible.
I myself am paying my cleaning lady her normal weekly salary even though she hasn’t been here since March. But she’s over 60 and I definitely can’t afford to provide her with private transportation to get here, I would be putting her at risk if I demand she come in public transportation or lose her livelihood.
Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:28 pm How long can he sustain a profit loss for before he goes under? He is still paying everyone like normal but low production is going out? There has to be a point, yes?
Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:21 pm It’s not that he’s unwilling to be there himself. It’s that he’s keeping ALL areas separated. Factory workers aren’t going into the office either. It’s minimizing everyone’s contact. Why is that so hard to understand? What’s elitist about it? Because he works in an office and their work in a factory? Well, that’s the case always. Each has a job to do. The same job they had to do prior Covid 19, but now they have to avoid personal contact. Out of safety, not elitism. My husband isn’t more safe being in the office. We’re not talking about he being alone and protected there and 50-60 workers being out at risk all working together.
My husband even offered to provide private transportation for his workers so they don’t have to take public transportation and out themselves at risk. How’s that for caring for his workers well being? It costs money, and a time when production is already low precisely because he’s limiting contact between the different areas. One area of the factory is open, his office is open and the 2 don’t interact. For the safety of ALL.
If my DH didn’t give a crap, he would’ve fully opened the factory, all areas open to full capacity and he’ll be monitoring everything from home. Some of DHs clients have done exactly that. DH found that reprehensible and when his employees wanted to go to work, he made a complete safety plan for ALL, not for himself.
After all, couldn’t he get infected and then be the one passing it on to his workers if he dropped by the floor? Why is it so hard to understand that these are measures for everyone’s safety? Many workplaces nowadays limit interaction between different areas. It’s not to protect some, it’s to protect all.
Anonymous 4 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:13 pm

Nothing you said changes the fact that your DH is putting his employees on a factory floor that he is unwilling to be on himself. That is elitist and disgusting.
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:21 pm It’s not that he’s unwilling to be there himself. It’s that he’s keeping ALL areas separated. Factory workers aren’t going into the office either. It’s minimizing everyone’s contact. Why is that so hard to understand? What’s elitist about it? Because he works in an office and their work in a factory? Well, that’s the case always. Each has a job to do. The same job they had to do prior Covid 19, but now they have to avoid personal contact. Out of safety, not elitism. My husband isn’t more safe being in the office. We’re not talking about he being alone and protected there and 50-60 workers being out at risk all working together.
My husband even offered to provide private transportation for his workers so they don’t have to take public transportation and out themselves at risk. How’s that for caring for his workers well being? It costs money, and a time when production is already low precisely because he’s limiting contact between the different areas. One area of the factory is open, his office is open and the 2 don’t interact. For the safety of ALL.
If my DH didn’t give a crap, he would’ve fully opened the factory, all areas open to full capacity and he’ll be monitoring everything from home. Some of DHs clients have done exactly that. DH found that reprehensible and when his employees wanted to go to work, he made a complete safety plan for ALL, not for himself.
After all, couldn’t he get infected and then be the one passing it on to his workers if he dropped by the floor? Why is it so hard to understand that these are measures for everyone’s safety? Many workplaces nowadays limit interaction between different areas. It’s not to protect some, it’s to protect all.
Anonymous 4 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:13 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:11 pm Actually the reason why he’s going to the factory is so that his employees can see that they’re there too. They’re all monitored for temperature at the entrance, DH included. He’s going because he knows it’s a morale booster when they see the owners there.
But in fact, his production has been severely lowered because it’s not fully operational everyday. Precisely because he doesn’t want to put employees at risk. Each day just one section works, which means just 3-4 people. It’s seriously cutting into his production, but his employees need the job. He actually hasn’t cut into their salaries even thought their working one day a week instead of five. And they were actually paid the 2 months they weren’t working. They weren’t going to reopen until this was over, but it was his employees who asked him to do it. He complied and is going himself even though he could do everything from our home.

So maybe ask before judging. My husband is protecting everyone with these measures, not himself. And the risks he’s taking, although minimal, he’s doing because his employees need the job and want to work.

Nothing you said changes the fact that your DH is putting his employees on a factory floor that he is unwilling to be on himself. That is elitist and disgusting.
Bullshit. Your DH is keeping himself safe while putting his employees at risk. I’m a capitalist, and I don’t honestly care what your DH is doing to make a buck, but don’t tell me how great your DH is while he’s unwilling to expose himself to the uncertainty he is exposing his employees to. He is not attempting to keep everyone safe. He is keeping his business safe.

You have posted all kinds of shit complaining that people should just stay home. Many people can’t stay home, including the people that work for your DH. He is forcing them to work in conditions he himself is unwilling to accept.
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Ok, HOW is he putting his employees at risk? DH is at the office with 2-3 people. The employees are at the plant with 3-4 people. You don’t know anything about me or him or how things are here and how he has been dealing with it. Stop judging when you don’t know. My husband isn’t making a buck, he’s supporting his family in much the same way his employees are and so they all take a risk.
And yes, many people can’t stay home. My husband could and he chooses not to to be there for his employees. He’s at high risk, having high blood pressure. My husband is a good and caring man that for weeks paid their salaries without seeing a single profit himself. He chose to lower his own salary before doing it to his workers or put people out of work. How dare you make it into something dirty when you don’t even know him? My guess is you don’t like me so you take out your feelings for me on him.
And seriously? How ignorant are you? “Forcing them to work in conditions he’s unwilling to do himself”? That’s so idiotic. First of all, he’s not forcing anyone. The employees wanted to go back to work so he reopened. No one who doesn’t want to be there is there, they were getting paid, anyway. And second, in every workplace there are different jobs. Being at the plant isn’t his job, it’s never been his job. His job is dealing with suppliers and solving any production problems. In fact just today he told me he did have to go down to the plant to check a problem with the machine that he couldn’t address over the phone. But you’re so good at turning simple measures for the protection of all into some kind of Soviet Union work camp, lol.
Judging in ignorance is so disgusting. And that’s exactly what you’re doing. Because you’re cowardly hiding behind anonymity I can’t put you on my ignore list. Bit consider your posts in this thread ignored from now own, you’re not deserving from further attention.
Anonymous 4 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:01 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:21 pm It’s not that he’s unwilling to be there himself. It’s that he’s keeping ALL areas separated. Factory workers aren’t going into the office either. It’s minimizing everyone’s contact. Why is that so hard to understand? What’s elitist about it? Because he works in an office and their work in a factory? Well, that’s the case always. Each has a job to do. The same job they had to do prior Covid 19, but now they have to avoid personal contact. Out of safety, not elitism. My husband isn’t more safe being in the office. We’re not talking about he being alone and protected there and 50-60 workers being out at risk all working together.
My husband even offered to provide private transportation for his workers so they don’t have to take public transportation and out themselves at risk. How’s that for caring for his workers well being? It costs money, and a time when production is already low precisely because he’s limiting contact between the different areas. One area of the factory is open, his office is open and the 2 don’t interact. For the safety of ALL.
If my DH didn’t give a crap, he would’ve fully opened the factory, all areas open to full capacity and he’ll be monitoring everything from home. Some of DHs clients have done exactly that. DH found that reprehensible and when his employees wanted to go to work, he made a complete safety plan for ALL, not for himself.
After all, couldn’t he get infected and then be the one passing it on to his workers if he dropped by the floor? Why is it so hard to understand that these are measures for everyone’s safety? Many workplaces nowadays limit interaction between different areas. It’s not to protect some, it’s to protect all.
Anonymous 4 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:13 pm

Nothing you said changes the fact that your DH is putting his employees on a factory floor that he is unwilling to be on himself. That is elitist and disgusting.
Bullshit. Your DH is keeping himself safe while putting his employees at risk. I’m a capitalist, and I don’t honestly care what your DH is doing to make a buck, but don’t tell me how great your DH is while he’s unwilling to expose himself to the uncertainty he is exposing his employees to. He is not attempting to keep everyone safe. He is keeping his business safe.

You have posted all kinds of shit complaining that people should just stay home. Many people can’t stay home, including the people that work for your DH. He is forcing them to work in conditions he himself is unwilling to accept.
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DD and I went today. It was still fun and it was nice having less people
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Anonymous 6 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:41 pm DD and I went today. It was still fun and it was nice having less people
I hope it was still worth it when you’re on a ventilator. You’re an irresponsible mother for doing that to your kid.
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Anonymous 7 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:12 pm
Anonymous 6 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:41 pm DD and I went today. It was still fun and it was nice having less people
I hope it was still worth it when you’re on a ventilator. You’re an irresponsible mother for doing that to your kid.
I'm not worried about it. I work with the general public anyway so it really isn't much different. My kid is 21 and wanted to go.
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:33 pm Ok, HOW is he putting his employees at risk? DH is at the office with 2-3 people. The employees are at the plant with 3-4 people. You don’t know anything about me or him or how things are here and how he has been dealing with it. Stop judging when you don’t know. My husband isn’t making a buck, he’s supporting his family in much the same way his employees are and so they all take a risk.
And yes, many people can’t stay home. My husband could and he chooses not to to be there for his employees. He’s at high risk, having high blood pressure. My husband is a good and caring man that for weeks paid their salaries without seeing a single profit himself. He chose to lower his own salary before doing it to his workers or put people out of work. How dare you make it into something dirty when you don’t even know him? My guess is you don’t like me so you take out your feelings for me on him.
And seriously? How ignorant are you? “Forcing them to work in conditions he’s unwilling to do himself”? That’s so idiotic. First of all, he’s not forcing anyone. The employees wanted to go back to work so he reopened. No one who doesn’t want to be there is there, they were getting paid, anyway. And second, in every workplace there are different jobs. Being at the plant isn’t his job, it’s never been his job. His job is dealing with suppliers and solving any production problems. In fact just today he told me he did have to go down to the plant to check a problem with the machine that he couldn’t address over the phone. But you’re so good at turning simple measures for the protection of all into some kind of Soviet Union work camp, lol.
Judging in ignorance is so disgusting. And that’s exactly what you’re doing. Because you’re cowardly hiding behind anonymity I can’t put you on my ignore list. Bit consider your posts in this thread ignored from now own, you’re not deserving from further attention.
Anonymous 4 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:01 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:21 pm It’s not that he’s unwilling to be there himself. It’s that he’s keeping ALL areas separated. Factory workers aren’t going into the office either. It’s minimizing everyone’s contact. Why is that so hard to understand? What’s elitist about it? Because he works in an office and their work in a factory? Well, that’s the case always. Each has a job to do. The same job they had to do prior Covid 19, but now they have to avoid personal contact. Out of safety, not elitism. My husband isn’t more safe being in the office. We’re not talking about he being alone and protected there and 50-60 workers being out at risk all working together.
My husband even offered to provide private transportation for his workers so they don’t have to take public transportation and out themselves at risk. How’s that for caring for his workers well being? It costs money, and a time when production is already low precisely because he’s limiting contact between the different areas. One area of the factory is open, his office is open and the 2 don’t interact. For the safety of ALL.
If my DH didn’t give a crap, he would’ve fully opened the factory, all areas open to full capacity and he’ll be monitoring everything from home. Some of DHs clients have done exactly that. DH found that reprehensible and when his employees wanted to go to work, he made a complete safety plan for ALL, not for himself.
After all, couldn’t he get infected and then be the one passing it on to his workers if he dropped by the floor? Why is it so hard to understand that these are measures for everyone’s safety? Many workplaces nowadays limit interaction between different areas. It’s not to protect some, it’s to protect all.

Bullshit. Your DH is keeping himself safe while putting his employees at risk. I’m a capitalist, and I don’t honestly care what your DH is doing to make a buck, but don’t tell me how great your DH is while he’s unwilling to expose himself to the uncertainty he is exposing his employees to. He is not attempting to keep everyone safe. He is keeping his business safe.

You have posted all kinds of shit complaining that people should just stay home. Many people can’t stay home, including the people that work for your DH. He is forcing them to work in conditions he himself is unwilling to accept.
Congratulations! You’ve just asked the most hated MC member because she is so elitist that she can’t possibly exist to own her words. I’m owning my words and calling you both elitist and disgusting. How fun!
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We were planning to go to Disneyland in very early 2021, like January or February. We have Disney dollars earned up that begin to expire in March 2021 and we really don't want to lose them. If we have to make reservations and wear masks I think it will be worth it.

We've already lost Blue Man Group. Back in December we won a voucher for 2 tickets to see them through a raffle for an organization. We were going to go sometime this year as that voucher expires in August. Then it all closed up and recently we read something that even when the casinos open completely that Blue Man Group might not come back at all. So yeah. I mean, our money still helped that organization (which is also completely closed right now) but it still feels like we lost out on something. I'm not ready to lose out on Disney as well.
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