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Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:36 pm
by Olioxenfree
So if your children were literally starving to death and the only way you could get food would be to steal it, you’d just shrug your shoulders and let them die because it would be illegal? Because those are the circumstances a lot of the people crossing the border are facing. People die trying to cross everyday, no one puts their family through that risk unless they have no other choices.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:07 pm That’s a cop out argument. That’s justifying breaking the law because of your circumstances. So if I can’t get something legally, is it OK for me to break the law? If I can’t afford food can I steal it because the supermarket doesn’t offer it for free?
It would be great is the US accepted migrants and asylum seekers and had programs to integrate them to American society. But if it doesn’t that’s not an excuse for people for trying to get in illegally.
Olioxenfree wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:22 pm When you make legal immigration nearly impossible for those who need it the most and refuse asylum seekers, that’s what’s happens, you leave people no choice.

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:20 am
by Slimshandy
Olioxenfree wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:22 pm When you make legal immigration nearly impossible for those who need it the most and refuse asylum seekers, that’s what’s happens, you leave people no choice.
This is an article about Chinese immigrants coming in . They have a near 70% acceptance rate. It’s not nearly impossible. For those 30% that don’t get accepted, maybe there’s a good reason…

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:54 am
by WellPreserved
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:20 am
Olioxenfree wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:22 pm When you make legal immigration nearly impossible for those who need it the most and refuse asylum seekers, that’s what’s happens, you leave people no choice.
This is an article about Chinese immigrants coming in . They have a near 70% acceptance rate. It’s not nearly impossible. For those 30% that don’t get accepted, maybe there’s a good reason…
To request asylum, you have to be present in the US. For the last decade, Chinese have been one of the largest group of asylum seekers and their mode of entry was air travel which requires a visa. Due to politics, the number of visas granted to Chinese for entry into the US has been severely limited mainly affecting students but also those who wish to claim asylum. However obtaining a visa to enter Mexico has not. Hence, Chinese asylum seekers are flying to Mexico and entering at our southern border rather than our airports.

Acceptance of asylum claims has always been high for Chinese asylum seekers regardless of how they entered the US as that has no bearing on a claim of asylum.

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:57 am
by AZOldGal66
"Chinese migrants head towards US border to seek asylum as economy falters | AP News" https://apnews.com/article/chinese-emig ... 118aa280c6

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:53 am
by Olioxenfree
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:20 am
Olioxenfree wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:22 pm When you make legal immigration nearly impossible for those who need it the most and refuse asylum seekers, that’s what’s happens, you leave people no choice.
This is an article about Chinese immigrants coming in . They have a near 70% acceptance rate. It’s not nearly impossible. For those 30% that don’t get accepted, maybe there’s a good reason…
Asylum seekers have a 70% acceptance rate. That’s not the green card or visa acceptance rate. You have to be in the US in the first place to claim asylum, which is what these folks are trying to do, and asylum seekers have to prove persecution, not poverty.

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:25 pm
by Slimshandy
Olioxenfree wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:53 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:20 am
Olioxenfree wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:22 pm When you make legal immigration nearly impossible for those who need it the most and refuse asylum seekers, that’s what’s happens, you leave people no choice.
This is an article about Chinese immigrants coming in . They have a near 70% acceptance rate. It’s not nearly impossible. For those 30% that don’t get accepted, maybe there’s a good reason…
Asylum seekers have a 70% acceptance rate. That’s not the green card or visa acceptance rate. You have to be in the US in the first place to claim asylum, which is what these folks are trying to do, and asylum seekers have to prove persecution, not poverty.
Do you think coming from somewhere with a bad economy should be an asylum case?

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:31 pm
by WellPreserved
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:25 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:53 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:20 am

This is an article about Chinese immigrants coming in . They have a near 70% acceptance rate. It’s not nearly impossible. For those 30% that don’t get accepted, maybe there’s a good reason…
Asylum seekers have a 70% acceptance rate. That’s not the green card or visa acceptance rate. You have to be in the US in the first place to claim asylum, which is what these folks are trying to do, and asylum seekers have to prove persecution, not poverty.
Do you think coming from somewhere with a bad economy should be an asylum case?
If they have a credible claim of fear of persecution, it doesn't matter what kind of economy their home country has.

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:40 pm
by Slimshandy
WellPreserved wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:31 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:25 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:53 am

Asylum seekers have a 70% acceptance rate. That’s not the green card or visa acceptance rate. You have to be in the US in the first place to claim asylum, which is what these folks are trying to do, and asylum seekers have to prove persecution, not poverty.
Do you think coming from somewhere with a bad economy should be an asylum case?
If they have a credible claim of fear of persecution, it doesn't matter what kind of economy their home country has.
What if the reason they write down on the paper is “horrible economy “, not persecution.

Does that count as a reason to get asylum?

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:54 pm
by WellPreserved
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:40 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:31 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:25 pm

Do you think coming from somewhere with a bad economy should be an asylum case?
If they have a credible claim of fear of persecution, it doesn't matter what kind of economy their home country has.
What if the reason they write down on the paper is “horrible economy “, not persecution.

Does that count as a reason to get asylum?
No which is why 30% of applications are denied and why someone from Guatemala who is indigenous most likely would receive asylum but someone from Guatemala who is not indigenous would probably not even though they both come from a country with a "horrible economy".

Re: Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:11 pm
by Olioxenfree
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:25 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:53 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:20 am

This is an article about Chinese immigrants coming in . They have a near 70% acceptance rate. It’s not nearly impossible. For those 30% that don’t get accepted, maybe there’s a good reason…
Asylum seekers have a 70% acceptance rate. That’s not the green card or visa acceptance rate. You have to be in the US in the first place to claim asylum, which is what these folks are trying to do, and asylum seekers have to prove persecution, not poverty.
Do you think coming from somewhere with a bad economy should be an asylum case?
My opinion on that has nothing to do with this. I’m talking about current facts, and the facts you supplied only apply to asylum seekers which require them first entering this country and qualifying through persecution.