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Della wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:09 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:06 am
EarlGrayHot wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 8:55 am I also know someone who is trans and (male to female) and she is way smaller than I am. I think this is a spurious argument foisted on us by the right wing conservatives who just hate the idea of transgendering and will invent any argument to try to stop it.
Or maybe republicans have been told, “that’s not what science shows us and women will suffer if you do this” and they responded “f**k women, my feelings are more important than them“

And then democrats were told “that’s not what science shows us and women will suffer if you do this” and they responded with “f**k women, my feelings are more important than them”…




Science no longer matters to either of them, we’re now in the age of feelings mattering more than facts… for both republicans and democrats.
Fact is transgenders exist just as they always have, but now they're out of the closet and the Republicans can't stand it. When did the COTUS stop covering them?
Fact is, the male body differs from the female body and that equates to a benefit for the top athletes.




No one seems to be able to answer… maybe you can,

Why do you think Flo Jo was slower than Usain Bolt?
Is it because she didn’t try hard enough, or train hard enough, or is it because Usain Bolt had a physical advantage?
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Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:15 am
Della wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:09 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:06 am

Or maybe republicans have been told, “that’s not what science shows us and women will suffer if you do this” and they responded “f**k women, my feelings are more important than them“

And then democrats were told “that’s not what science shows us and women will suffer if you do this” and they responded with “f**k women, my feelings are more important than them”…




Science no longer matters to either of them, we’re now in the age of feelings mattering more than facts… for both republicans and democrats.
Fact is transgenders exist just as they always have, but now they're out of the closet and the Republicans can't stand it. When did the COTUS stop covering them?
Fact is, the male body differs from the female body and that equates to a benefit for the top athletes.




No one seems to be able to answer… maybe you can,

Why do you think Flo Jo was slower than Usain Bolt?
Is it because she didn’t try hard enough, or train hard enough, or is it because Usain Bolt had a physical advantage?
Did they compete?
306/232

But I'm still the winner! They lied! They cheated! They stole the election!
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Della wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:26 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:15 am
Della wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:09 am

Fact is transgenders exist just as they always have, but now they're out of the closet and the Republicans can't stand it. When did the COTUS stop covering them?
Fact is, the male body differs from the female body and that equates to a benefit for the top athletes.




No one seems to be able to answer… maybe you can,

Why do you think Flo Jo was slower than Usain Bolt?
Is it because she didn’t try hard enough, or train hard enough, or is it because Usain Bolt had a physical advantage?
Did they compete?
When a track star runs the 100 meter, they record the time.
That is how they determine “fastest in the country” or “fastest in the world”


It does not mean they competed against everyone in the country.




SO AGAIN… why do you think Flo Jo had a slower time than Usain Bolt?




Lol anything to avoid the question… almost like if you answer the question legitimately, you would have to admit something you don’t want to admit..,
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Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 7:27 am You are a science denier if you don’t believe men and women’s bodies differ.
Never said they don't, and that isn't the point.
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SallyMae wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:58 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 7:27 am You are a science denier if you don’t believe men and women’s bodies differ.
Never said they don't, and that isn't the point.
You’re trying to advocate for getting rid of men and women’s categories in sports.


That is exactly the point.
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Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:34 am Fact is, the male body differs from the female body and that equates to a benefit for the top athletes.

No one seems to be able to answer… maybe you can,

Why do you think Flo Jo was slower than Usain Bolt?
Is it because she didn’t try hard enough, or train hard enough, or is it because Usain Bolt had a physical advantage?
There is no way Oscar Collazo (105 Lbs, Strawweight Boxing Champion) could ever beat Oleksandr Usyk (200+ lbs, Heavyweight Champion) and yet Oscar is still a world champion boxer.

Nobody thinks Usain doesn't have a physical advantage over Flo Jo because he's male. But there ARE males who don't have a physical advantage, who are smaller or shorter than Usain, who could give Flo Jo cold a run for her money, but who she could still beat. That's who she would race - Usain would be in the "heavyweight class" while Flo Jo would be in the "featherweight" class and even smaller men and women - who have no chance at all in most sports right now, frankly - would have Flyweight and Strawweight classes they could compete in. Maybe we would have to allow slightly larger women to compete against smaller men to make it fair, or maybe they would have to handicap it, etc. Point is, you can look at many factors like height, weight, ability and skill to match up competitive athletes. It doesn't have to be by gender. Is it a challenge? Yes, but it's not insurmountable.

All it would take is for Oleksandr Usyk to realize that he is actually a woman (it can happen to the Wheatiest boxes of athlete) and suddenly you DO have a woman who can compete as a heavyweight. So what?
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Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
SallyMae wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:58 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 7:27 am You are a science denier if you don’t believe men and women’s bodies differ.
Never said they don't, and that isn't the point.
You’re trying to advocate for getting rid of men and women’s categories in sports.


That is exactly the point.
Not because I don't believe men and women's bodies differ. All human bodies differ and sports are already divided into categories by difference.
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SallyMae wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:21 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:34 am Fact is, the male body differs from the female body and that equates to a benefit for the top athletes.

No one seems to be able to answer… maybe you can,

Why do you think Flo Jo was slower than Usain Bolt?
Is it because she didn’t try hard enough, or train hard enough, or is it because Usain Bolt had a physical advantage?
There is no way Oscar Collazo (105 Lbs, Strawweight Boxing Champion) could ever beat Oleksandr Usyk (200+ lbs, Heavyweight Champion) and yet Oscar is still a world champion boxer.

Nobody thinks Usain doesn't have a physical advantage over Flo Jo because he's male. But there ARE males who don't have a physical advantage, who are smaller or shorter than Usain, who could give Flo Jo cold a run for her money, but who she could still beat. That's who she would race - Usain would be in the "heavyweight class" while Flo Jo would be in the "featherweight" class and even smaller men and women - who have no chance at all in most sports right now, frankly - would have Flyweight and Strawweight classes they could compete in. Maybe we would have to allow slightly larger women to compete against smaller men to make it fair, or maybe they would have to handicap it, etc. Point is, you can look at many factors like height, weight, ability and skill to match up competitive athletes. It doesn't have to be by gender. Is it a challenge? Yes, but it's not insurmountable.

All it would take is for Oleksandr Usyk to realize that he is actually a woman (it can happen to the Wheatiest boxes of athlete) and suddenly you DO have a woman who can compete as a heavyweight. So what?
So in your perfect world, women are handicapped to the men…



Do you understand why Caitlin Jenner doesn’t think transgender women should compete against natural born women?

Because she knows that in her prime, she would have decimated any woman…
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SallyMae wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:23 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
SallyMae wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 9:58 am

Never said they don't, and that isn't the point.
You’re trying to advocate for getting rid of men and women’s categories in sports.


That is exactly the point.
Not because I don't believe men and women's bodies differ. All human bodies differ and sports are already divided into categories by difference.
The best female track star vs the best male track star…


Can that competition be held fairly?


No…



So once again, women have to take a backseat to men in your perfect world.
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Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:36 am
SallyMae wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:23 am
Slimshandy wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am

You’re trying to advocate for getting rid of men and women’s categories in sports.


That is exactly the point.
Not because I don't believe men and women's bodies differ. All human bodies differ and sports are already divided into categories by difference.
The best female track star vs the best male track star…


Can that competition be held fairly?


No…



So once again, women have to take a backseat to men in your perfect world.
The best strawweight boxer vs. the best heavyweight boxer...

Can that competition be held fairly?

No...but gender has nothing to do with it, and strawweight boxers are not taking a backseat to heavyweights. They are just competing in a different class, that's all.
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