Look at that! I’ve learned who he is, and he’s still not influencing me.mommy_jules wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:14 pmhttps://www.google.com/search?q=john+ma ... ent=safari
We are discussing highly influential conservative evangelical pastors. The Christian kind.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:05 pmWhy not?Della wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:02 pmWhy Muslims?Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:17 pm
You might need an entire semester to get a grasp on the relationship between mental health and spiritual beliefs… you ready?
https://academic.oup.com/book/35499/cha ... m=fulltext
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9341235/
We’re talking about how religion can benefit mental health…
How many people are in your congregation?Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:19 pmLook at that! I’ve learned who he is, and he’s still not influencing me.
Maybe most Christians are like that too…
Didn’t you say you were a Christian? Does he influence you?
Why? Would it be relevant to my question to Jules about whether or not she is influenced by him? Or are you just trying to find out specifics about me?Della wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:41 pmHow many people are in your congregation?Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:19 pmLook at that! I’ve learned who he is, and he’s still not influencing me.
Maybe most Christians are like that too…
Didn’t you say you were a Christian? Does he influence you?
I'm wondering if it's a mega church.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:54 pmWhy? Would it be relevant to my question to Jules about whether or not she is influenced by him? Or are you just trying to find out specifics about me?Della wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:41 pmHow many people are in your congregation?Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:19 pm
Look at that! I’ve learned who he is, and he’s still not influencing me.
Maybe most Christians are like that too…
Didn’t you say you were a Christian? Does he influence you?
Most Christians get their theological beliefs from somewhere even if they don't know the names of the theologians, Bible scholars, or other sources that it stems from. Whether or not you or I follow him doesn’t change the fact that he’s had a huge influence on the evangelical culture that I live in and millions of other around the country. I know tons of people who spout similar things to what he has stated. A large portion of the people in my area absolutely do follow him, and I’m willing to bet tons of Christians in Texas and other conservative areas do as well in some form or fashion. I also know Christians who don’t believe that. I was never disputing that. I’m saying I’m not willing to take the chance that my kid who is AuDHD is told or made to believe his anxiety is a religious failing on his part or that he is demon possessed (I’ve seen and heard that as well). If I wanted that I’d go to the KJV only Baptist church or the non denominational charismatic church down the road.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:19 pmLook at that! I’ve learned who he is, and he’s still not influencing me.
Maybe most Christians are like that too…
Didn’t you say you were a Christian? Does he influence you?
Then it’s a good thing that “with parental permission” would be attached.mommy_jules wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:03 pmMost Christians get their theological beliefs from somewhere even if they don't know the names of the theologians, Bible scholars, or other sources that it stems from. Whether or not you or I follow him doesn’t change the fact that he’s had a huge influence on the evangelical culture that I live in and millions of other around the country. I know tons of people who spout similar things to what he has stated. A large portion of the people in my area absolutely do follow him, and I’m willing to bet tons of Christians in Texas and other conservative areas do as well in some form or fashion. I also know Christians who don’t believe that. I was never disputing that. I’m saying I’m not willing to take the chance that my kid who is AuDHD is told or made to believe his anxiety is a religious failing on his part or that he is demon possessed (I’ve seen and heard that as well). If I wanted that I’d go to the KJV only Baptist church or the non denominational charismatic church down the road.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:19 pmLook at that! I’ve learned who he is, and he’s still not influencing me.
Maybe most Christians are like that too…
Didn’t you say you were a Christian? Does he influence you?
I’m Presbyterian, so no…Della wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:56 pmI'm wondering if it's a mega church.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:54 pmWhy? Would it be relevant to my question to Jules about whether or not she is influenced by him? Or are you just trying to find out specifics about me?
You said that much better than I could have.WellPreserved wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:45 pm I’m not sure that the issue is just with evangelical Christian’s but rather a conservative issue. Sure, there is a certain ideology of children being in the likeness of God and perfect but this transcends different religious sects and sometimes even Nationalism comes into play.
My son was diagnosed in the US with ASD at age 4 and at the time we were living in a Catholic conservative Eastern European country where I was told not only by teachers but by the BOE, “we don’t have Autism in our country”. Recommendation was to take away American tv (we didn’t have a tv set) and/or to send him to a residential school for problem kids - you know, the kids with Autism, Down, and any other neurological issue that doesn’t know country boundaries.
There is Christian dogma that preaches that God doesn’t make mistakes as well as some Nationalistic pride of there are no weak Americans. We see this with SNs kids as well as kids within the LGBTQ community. Gotta dispel this myth before having people who believe in it counseling our kids.
