Arizona Supreme Court rules a near-total abortion ban from 1864 is enforceable

[MonarchMom]

Time to remember we don’t need doctors to acquire abortifacients.

Not sure I understand you post.

[Slimshandy]

Time to remember we don’t need doctors to acquire abortifacients.

Not sure I understand you post.

Human beings have been using herbal abortifacients for at least the past 6000 years.

Misoprostol = synthetic prostaglandin ; the amount your body produces is based on what you eat.

[Della]

Time to remember we don’t need doctors to acquire abortifacients.

Not sure I understand you post.

Human beings have been using herbal abortifacients for at least the past 6000 years.

Misoprostol = synthetic prostaglandin ; the amount your body produces is based on what you eat.

So, break the law?

[Slimshandy]

Not sure I understand you post.

Human beings have been using herbal abortifacients for at least the past 6000 years.

Misoprostol = synthetic prostaglandin ; the amount your body produces is based on what you eat.

So, break the law?

If a law is unjust…

[MonarchMom]

Time to remember we don’t need doctors to acquire abortifacients.

Not sure I understand you post.

Human beings have been using herbal abortifacients for at least the past 6000 years.

Misoprostol = synthetic prostaglandin ; the amount your body produces is based on what you eat.

I have a better idea. How about instead of returning to herbal remedies we vote out GOP everywhere so women can return to having bodily autonomy and modern medical care.

[Slimshandy]

Not sure I understand you post.

Human beings have been using herbal abortifacients for at least the past 6000 years.

Misoprostol = synthetic prostaglandin ; the amount your body produces is based on what you eat.

I have a better idea. How about instead of returning to herbal remedies we vote out GOP everywhere so women can return to having bodily autonomy and modern medical care.

By all means… do that.

But the fact still remains, you can control your own body or you can wait for permission to control it.

[MonarchMom]

Human beings have been using herbal abortifacients for at least the past 6000 years.

Misoprostol = synthetic prostaglandin ; the amount your body produces is based on what you eat.

I have a better idea. How about instead of returning to herbal remedies we vote out GOP everywhere so women can return to having bodily autonomy and modern medical care.

By all means… do that.

But the fact still remains, you can control your own body or you can wait for permission to control it.

And for those women who are hemorrhaging during pregnancy? Or have an incomplete miscarriage? Or an ectopic pregnancy? Or a non-viable fetus? Just ingest some herbs and hope for the best?

[Slimshandy]

I have a better idea. How about instead of returning to herbal remedies we vote out GOP everywhere so women can return to having bodily autonomy and modern medical care.

By all means… do that.

But the fact still remains, you can control your own body or you can wait for permission to control it.

And for those women who are hemorrhaging during pregnancy? Or have an incomplete miscarriage? Or an ectopic pregnancy? Or a non-viable fetus? Just ingest some herbs and hope for the best?

No, they need hospitalization.

Are you under the impression that I am the one making that difficult for women today?

[WellPreserved]

Oh FFS

"But according to medical experts and trained herbalists, herbal abortifacients can be dangerous and there isn’t any data on whether they work.

“My hard-line position, for 35 years, has been that they are not reliably effective,” said Dr. Aviva Romm, a women’s health physician, midwife and herbalist who wrote the textbook “Botanical Medicine for Women’s Health.” “And the doses of the herbs that one would have to take for it to possibly be effective are so high that they are virtually always toxic to the pregnant person” or the fetus. After seeing the worrying spread of the misinformation online, she posted a video on Instagram urging her followers not to “listen to what you hear on TikTok.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/11/well ... royal.html

[Slimshandy]

Oh FFS

"But according to medical experts and trained herbalists, herbal abortifacients can be dangerous and there isn’t any data on whether they work.

“My hard-line position, for 35 years, has been that they are not reliably effective,” said Dr. Aviva Romm, a women’s health physician, midwife and herbalist who wrote the textbook “Botanical Medicine for Women’s Health.” “And the doses of the herbs that one would have to take for it to possibly be effective are so high that they are virtually always toxic to the pregnant person” or the fetus. After seeing the worrying spread of the misinformation online, she posted a video on Instagram urging her followers not to “listen to what you hear on TikTok.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/11/well ... royal.html

It’s a good thing I don’t have Tik Tok then.

My opinion comes from three years as an apprentice midwife and 2 years of cultural anthropology centered around birth practices, particularly focused on midwifery. (and yes, that includes abortion methods)

The only thing YOU have is articles to read… that doesn’t mean everyone who has an opinion on this subject is limited to google for their information, nor are they all limited to recent westernized medicine as the only knowledge base.