Biden's first move as president-elect? Mask mandate for all. Here's how he plans on doing it.

[MonarchMom]

But if they won’t because there’s no consequence anyway, what will change? The people who don’t want to wear one now because yiu can’t make them will still not wear them. What’s the point of making something mandatory if there’s no consequence for choosing not to it?

I agree that fining people and being punitive is not the answer. Ia also agree that people should wear masks.

This won't be happening overnight, and especially with states varying on the political party of its leaders. IOW, this might be yet another uphill battle for Biden.

That said, provided that it's a mandate with no implications of fines and so forth for not complying, I don't see the issue. People should still be wearing masks while out in public along with social distancing.

I think a mandate allows businesses and public offices to turn away customers who will not comply. That is significant. I just read Utah resisted any mandate, and now has to have one due to upsurge in fatalities. So sad that people have to be ordered to take a simple step that saves lives.

[wildflowers25]

Looks like all the turmoil won't be over after all with Biden in office. Him already talking about doing an end run around governors if they don't do what he wants doesn't bode well for the future. I read he is talking about doing the same thing on a vaccine when it finally becomes available.

[Pjmm]

Looks like all the turmoil won't be over after all with Biden in office. Him already talking about doing an end run around governors if they don't do what he wants doesn't bode well for the future. I read he is talking about doing the same thing on a vaccine when it finally becomes available.

I don’t know what he actually said but I wouldn't worry too much. He can talk. Politicians all do. What he can actually do is another story.

[wildflowers25]

Looks like all the turmoil won't be over after all with Biden in office. Him already talking about doing an end run around governors if they don't do what he wants doesn't bode well for the future. I read he is talking about doing the same thing on a vaccine when it finally becomes available.

I don’t know what he actually said but I wouldn't worry too much. He can talk. Politicians all do. What he can actually do is another story.

It's just what I was reading he had said. I guess at this point I'm putting as much stock into it as him waffling back and forth on phasing out oil production. I'm not against looking into alternative energy sources but phasing out oil and gas production would have to be done carefully. It doesn't stop me from wondering what exactly he's really thinking about doing as opposed to just talking to appease voters.

[WellPreserved]

But if they won’t because there’s no consequence anyway, what will change? The people who don’t want to wear one now because yiu can’t make them will still not wear them. What’s the point of making something mandatory if there’s no consequence for choosing not to it?

I agree that fining people and being punitive is not the answer. Ia also agree that people should wear masks.

This won't be happening overnight, and especially with states varying on the political party of its leaders. IOW, this might be yet another uphill battle for Biden.

That said, provided that it's a mandate with no implications of fines and so forth for not complying, I don't see the issue. People should still be wearing masks while out in public along with social distancing.

We have a mask mandate in our state. Businesses can be fined if their employees are not abiding by the mask mandate and they can turn away customers who are not abiding. I think that is sufficient. Do we still have those customers who go without masks, sure. But turning employees into "police" is not the answer. It's a tough call but I know in my market, customers who won't wear a mask have dug in and barring them from purchases has created a situation where they started to gather and protest, putting even more people at risk. We have since started to just ignore them and they have gone away, mostly due to customer peer pressure.

I don't remember who the poster was, but someone in this group had a business in a state that also has a mask mandate. They said none of the businesses in their community were abiding by it. I almost guarantee that at $1500 a pop fine (that's the fine in our state), most businesses would require their employees to wear masks. The local businesses that have been fined in our county show up in our local newspaper. No one wants that kind of monetary loss or publicity.

[SouthernIslander]

Texas is already under a mask mandate.

[Momto2boys973]

Maybe that’s not the answer.
But IMHO it’s still more of an answer than calling something a “mandate” when it’s anything but. If you’re going to call something a “mandate” then it’s not voluntary, it’s mandated and therefore there are consequences for not abiding. As it is, call it a “suggestion” because it’s nothing more than that.

But if they won’t because there’s no consequence anyway, what will change? The people who don’t want to wear one now because yiu can’t make them will still not wear them. What’s the point of making something mandatory if there’s no consequence for choosing not to it?

I agree that fining people and being punitive is not the answer. Ia also agree that people should wear masks.

We have a mask mandate in our state. Businesses can be fined if their employees are not abiding by the mask mandate and they can turn away customers who are not abiding. I think that is sufficient. Do we still have those customers who go without masks, sure. But turning employees into "police" is not the answer. It's a tough call but I know in my market, customers who won't wear a mask have dug in and barring them from purchases has created a situation where they started to gather and protest, putting even more people at risk. We have since started to just ignore them and they have gone away, mostly due to customer peer pressure.

I don't remember who the poster was, but someone in this group had a business in a state that also has a mask mandate. They said none of the businesses in their community were abiding by it. I almost guarantee that at $1500 a pop fine (that's the fine in our state), most businesses would require their employees to wear masks. The local businesses that have been fined in our county show up in our local newspaper. No one wants that kind of monetary loss or publicity.

[WellPreserved]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/mee ... task-force

I gave a sign of relief reading the above.

[Deleted User 670]

Good.

Like hell it is.

lAny way, he's not legally the president elect yet.

The states that have lower covid numbers have a higher rate of mask compliance. Just wear your goddamn F***ing mask already! We've been wearing them since May. It's not a big F***ing deal.

[californiagirl83]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/mee ... task-force

I gave a sign of relief reading the above.

This makes me more confident that we actually stand a chance at controlling COVID, rather than the other way around.