Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:54 am Cotton is as much an idiot and fool as those who believe as he does.
“absent the Holocaust, Israel would not be a country today.”
But he's correct about that ^
Religious nut Senator Tom Cotton claims slavery and holocaust were necessary
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Yes, he is... kind of. But to deem it “necessary” is disgusting. He cannot know if that same result couldn’t have come in another way. He’s only saying that because it happened that way and he cannot picture any other way. But it could’ve happened differently. Unless he’s traveled to an alternative reality where the Holocaust didn’t happen and there was no Israel, he cannot make that comment with any assurance.
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Question, if y'all could go back in time and kill baby Hitler in order to save the victims of the holocaust and casualties of the resulting war, would you? yes or no? why?
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Without the stuff that was happening during Theodore Herzls time, none of it would have happened as it did.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:58 am Yes, he is... kind of. But to deem it “necessary” is disgusting. He cannot know if that same result couldn’t have come in another way. He’s only saying that because it happened that way and he cannot picture any other way. But it could’ve happened differently. Unless he’s traveled to an alternative reality where the Holocaust didn’t happen and there was no Israel, he cannot make that comment with any assurance.
Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:54 am Cotton is as much an idiot and fool as those who believe as he does.
“absent the Holocaust, Israel would not be a country today.”
But he's correct about that ^
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Personally, I wouldn’t. Because as a strong believer in God, it’s not my place to make such decisions. Who knows if I couldn’t actually make things worse?
That’s why I said this guy can’t claim what would or wouldn’t have happened. We don’t know the full ramifications of our actions.
That’s why I said this guy can’t claim what would or wouldn’t have happened. We don’t know the full ramifications of our actions.
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But that’s the thing: we cannot know for sure.
Just because things happened that way it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have happened in another way if history had developed differently. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, so we don’t know.
And well... if he considers himself that religious he should know better than to think we’re the ones dictating God’s plan through our actions. If Israel and America were part of God’s plant then they would’ve happened one way or another.
Just because things happened that way it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have happened in another way if history had developed differently. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, so we don’t know.
And well... if he considers himself that religious he should know better than to think we’re the ones dictating God’s plan through our actions. If Israel and America were part of God’s plant then they would’ve happened one way or another.
Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:13 amWithout the stuff that was happening during Theodore Herzls time, none of it would have happened as it did.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:58 am Yes, he is... kind of. But to deem it “necessary” is disgusting. He cannot know if that same result couldn’t have come in another way. He’s only saying that because it happened that way and he cannot picture any other way. But it could’ve happened differently. Unless he’s traveled to an alternative reality where the Holocaust didn’t happen and there was no Israel, he cannot make that comment with any assurance.
Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:54 am Cotton is as much an idiot and fool as those who believe as he does.
“absent the Holocaust, Israel would not be a country today.”
But he's correct about that ^
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Looking at the history of the time and the emotions of those longing for a homeland they were denied, i think we can make that assumption.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:21 am But that’s the thing: we cannot know for sure.
Just because things happened that way it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have happened in another way if history had developed differently. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, so we don’t know.
Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:13 amWithout the stuff that was happening during Theodore Herzls time, none of it would have happened as it did.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:58 am Yes, he is... kind of. But to deem it “necessary” is disgusting. He cannot know if that same result couldn’t have come in another way. He’s only saying that because it happened that way and he cannot picture any other way. But it could’ve happened differently. Unless he’s traveled to an alternative reality where the Holocaust didn’t happen and there was no Israel, he cannot make that comment with any assurance.
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I intentionally didn't because I want you to use that noggin of your's.
If you eliminate baby Hitler and prevent the rise of the Nazis, then you create a world where WWII didn't occur, and thus you have no reason to travel back in time. Thus, Hitler survives to adulthood and we're back where we started. Acting as a time-traveling executioner simply creates a paradox.
The grandfather paradox is a potential logical problem that would arise if a person were to travel to a past time. The name comes from the idea that if a person travels to a time before their grandfather had children, and kills him, it would make their own birth impossible.
https://www.forbes.com/sitwould had occes/briankoberlein/2015/10/23/why-its-impossible-to-go-back-in-time-and-kill-baby-hitler/#341bf23a29c0
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It’s true that 70% of Americans identify as Christian, but evangelicals actually only make up about a quarter of those.
Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:14 pm Is anything about what he said contrary to the belief of most of the country in between New York and LA?
Religious people believe that. Most of your country is religious in the evangelical way.
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Do you visit the middle of the country often?Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:18 pmEvangelicals are not a majority. The fastest growing population is the non-religious. I have no idea if the “evil necessity” story is common outside of the extremists but I don’t think so.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:14 pm Is anything about what he said contrary to the belief of most of the country in between New York and LA?
Religious people believe that. Most of your country is religious in the evangelical way.
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