Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:32 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:19 pm
Lemons wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:26 pm
I know. I said it’s an American problem having to do with poverty inequality education plus many more factors. A unique American problem, however, is excessive guns. Other countries have worse poverty and racism without the gun violence.
But you can’t rule out lenient gun laws as one of many reasons for more gun violence in red states.
Blue cities in red states if you’d like to keep emphasizing political party. Calling out the elephant in the room, I don’t care about what other countries do if you’re saying that’s no excuse for Black on Black crime since that’s what we are talking about or downplay what I’m telling you because it’s not fitting the gun law argument.
I support stricter gun laws in the south, so I don’t completely rule it out. But it doesn’t have as big of a impact as people make it out to be to fuss about gun laws and political parties. Bottom line, most of these crimes aren’t committed with legally obtained firearm and stricter laws won’t have enough of an impact to make us the poster child for gun laws.
I know mass shooters won’t fit the red state narrative but they would make a better candidate since more of those crimes are committed by people who legally obtain fire arm, not us.
I told you before I was clarifying the misconception that a poster wrote about it being a blue state problem. We should address it as a country problem. And to look at countries that are successful in containing gun violence is a smart thing. It's common sense that a country with virtually no guns in homes have very little gun violence.
We will never know if removing guns from homes would have an impact because people in this country won't let go of their guns. Yes, criminals will always have guns and there will always be murder. But we don't need to be the murder capital of the wealthy democratic countries.
Trump loves to bring up the Latino gangs and the MS13 gang. It gets his base all riled up against Latinos and chanting build the wall. But facts are more Latinos are trying to escape gun violence and forced gangs for teen boys in South American countries. The majority of Latinos favor rigid gun control and there's a reason for that. I've never owned a gun and neither has anyone in my family. I don't get the appeal.
I understand you posted this to prove someone wrong but the article and pointing out our areas and political association specifically opens up discussion past the initial reason behind it.
You’re talking from the outside looking in, I grew up on the worst neighborhoods that greatly contribute to the high crime rate in the areas that you pointed out in this article. Latino community is a completely different dynamic than majority Black rural areas in the south.
Gun laws, partisan political blame and even Trump is small percentage of a much bigger picture with a long history behind it.
I encourage you to watch the video that Jules posted. It does a good job breaking down the challenges with Black on Black crime and be open to seeing past your experience and proving someone wrong in this particular argument because the overall notion that this is party specific and making this about gun law debate is flawed.