Woman with mental age of child to have abortion, court rules

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CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:29 pm
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water<wine wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:59 pm

they also decided against the parents' wishes that baby alfie evans should DIE rather than be sent to america for treatment.

this is what the left wants, they want the government to decide whats best for everyone. they call the right fascists for wanting LIBERTY.
This is the kind of healthcare they want for all of us.. with a judge deciding who gets what treatment.
A judge deciding who lives or dies. There has been no crime committed, they're not on trial, they just need healthcare!
No thank you!
What do you believe private insurance in the US would have done for him without the preexisting clause?
They actually barred them from leaving the UK and traveling to Italy, where they found a doctor who would have treated him. That wouldn't have likely happened in the US. The government decided that treatment wouldn't help him, and they wouldn't allow anyone else to try.
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I’m so sorry this happened to your sister and family.
I don’t want to come off as insensitive, but I honestly have no words of comfort. Reading your reply brought tears to my eyes.
*supportive hug to you *

hockeymom87 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:36 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:31 pm I read the article. The judge makes some strong points. The woman does not understand her situation and wants a child like a child wants a doll.
However, the mother of this woman is willing to care fir her grandchild to be. The article does not state whether the woman is a ward of the state. Thus, despite the mother being against an abortion, termination can be ordered by the court.
The fetus is already 22 weeks. Just because there are rare cases where a fetus survives at that stage when delivered does not make for a strong argument against termination, especially when the fetus has adverse pathology. I’m pro choice, however, the article does not state fetal pathology that would warrant termination. Additionally, the woman does not have medical issues that a pregnancy to term would threaten her life.
I think the court is grossly overreaching if the mother of this woman has custody of her daughter. Additionally, the mother would not be the first grandmother to care for her grandchild from birth.
This just a tragic situation. The circumstances of conception are also under investigation.
IDK ... this just seems wrong to me.
My mother is caring my sisters two children. One will be five in August. My sister had a baby in January and was put on life support right after she had the baby.
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Same here hockey
cgd5112 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:23 pm I’m so sorry this happened to your sister and family.
I don’t want to come off as insensitive, but I honestly have no words of comfort. Reading your reply brought tears to my eyes.
*supportive hug to you *

hockeymom87 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:36 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:31 pm I read the article. The judge makes some strong points. The woman does not understand her situation and wants a child like a child wants a doll.
However, the mother of this woman is willing to care fir her grandchild to be. The article does not state whether the woman is a ward of the state. Thus, despite the mother being against an abortion, termination can be ordered by the court.
The fetus is already 22 weeks. Just because there are rare cases where a fetus survives at that stage when delivered does not make for a strong argument against termination, especially when the fetus has adverse pathology. I’m pro choice, however, the article does not state fetal pathology that would warrant termination. Additionally, the woman does not have medical issues that a pregnancy to term would threaten her life.
I think the court is grossly overreaching if the mother of this woman has custody of her daughter. Additionally, the mother would not be the first grandmother to care for her grandchild from birth.
This just a tragic situation. The circumstances of conception are also under investigation.
IDK ... this just seems wrong to me.
My mother is caring my sisters two children. One will be five in August. My sister had a baby in January and was put on life support right after she had the baby.
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BionicBunny wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:59 pm
msb64 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:50 pm
BionicBunny wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:43 pm

Why would I answer any of your questions when you refuse to answer the same question I have asked four times now and you ignore and dance around it. I don’t think I can ever take your opinion seriously again after this post.
Lol. I have absolutely no problem with that.
Good because you have showed everyone how batshit crazy you are and even someone with liberal views like you said you were a moron. I doubt it’s just me who can’t take your opinion seriously anymore.

We need to make up a new political party for these morons because i don't want this type of ignorance representing me and others like me. We are NOT nutters like this crazy!
What can we can these morons? We can even put the morons from the R&D parties in there too because you know every party has their village idiots.
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cgd5112 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:23 pm I’m so sorry this happened to your sister and family.
I don’t want to come off as insensitive, but I honestly have no words of comfort. Reading your reply brought tears to my eyes.
*supportive hug to you *

hockeymom87 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:36 pm
cgd5112 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:31 pm I read the article. The judge makes some strong points. The woman does not understand her situation and wants a child like a child wants a doll.
However, the mother of this woman is willing to care fir her grandchild to be. The article does not state whether the woman is a ward of the state. Thus, despite the mother being against an abortion, termination can be ordered by the court.
The fetus is already 22 weeks. Just because there are rare cases where a fetus survives at that stage when delivered does not make for a strong argument against termination, especially when the fetus has adverse pathology. I’m pro choice, however, the article does not state fetal pathology that would warrant termination. Additionally, the woman does not have medical issues that a pregnancy to term would threaten her life.
I think the court is grossly overreaching if the mother of this woman has custody of her daughter. Additionally, the mother would not be the first grandmother to care for her grandchild from birth.
This just a tragic situation. The circumstances of conception are also under investigation.
IDK ... this just seems wrong to me.
My mother is caring my sisters two children. One will be five in August. My sister had a baby in January and was put on life support right after she had the baby.
Thank you. My mom and the 4 year old came down to see us this weekend for my 6 year olds bday. The baby had a doctors appointment and a 6 hour car ride isn’t fun for a baby so he stayed home with my Stepdad. All the boys have been having a blast this weekend. Went to a kids train museum on Friday morning then a fou ce house place for my sons party. Today we played outside and had water ballon and water fun wars.
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BionicBunny wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:30 pm Same here hockey
cgd5112 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:23 pm I’m so sorry this happened to your sister and family.
I don’t want to come off as insensitive, but I honestly have no words of comfort. Reading your reply brought tears to my eyes.
*supportive hug to you *

hockeymom87 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:36 pm

My mother is caring my sisters two children. One will be five in August. My sister had a baby in January and was put on life support right after she had the baby.
Thank you. We just have to trust that God has a plan for these boys and that he will make sure that they go where they’re suppose to. We can hope they can live with us forever but we don’t know the future
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CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:29 pm
29again wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:08 pm
water<wine wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:59 pm

they also decided against the parents' wishes that baby alfie evans should DIE rather than be sent to america for treatment.

this is what the left wants, they want the government to decide whats best for everyone. they call the right fascists for wanting LIBERTY.
This is the kind of healthcare they want for all of us.. with a judge deciding who gets what treatment.
A judge deciding who lives or dies. There has been no crime committed, they're not on trial, they just need healthcare!
No thank you!
What do you believe private insurance in the US would have done for him without the preexisting clause?
I have no idea what their insurance policy might have covered. Or what services the government might have covered...
Expand your thinking


It’s possible to disagree with an article and not respond with a personal attack you know.
Try it.
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cgd5112 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:31 pm I read the article. The judge makes some strong points. The woman does not understand her situation and wants a child like a child wants a doll.
However, the mother of this woman is willing to care fir her grandchild to be. The article does not state whether the woman is a ward of the state. Thus, despite the mother being against an abortion, termination can be ordered by the court.
The fetus is already 22 weeks. Just because there are rare cases where a fetus survives at that stage when delivered does not make for a strong argument against termination, especially when the fetus has adverse pathology. I’m pro choice, however, the article does not state fetal pathology that would warrant termination. Additionally, the woman does not have medical issues that a pregnancy to term would threaten her life.
I think the court is grossly overreaching if the mother of this woman has custody of her daughter. Additionally, the mother would not be the first grandmother to care for her grandchild from birth.
This just a tragic situation. The circumstances of conception are also under investigation.
IDK ... this just seems wrong to me.
One point that was made was if the woman took custody of her grandchild, the mother could lose her home.
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hockeymom87 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:15 pm
BionicBunny wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:09 pm
hockeymom87 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:08 pm

Thank you. It’s getting easier. My mom has guardianship over my nephews. We’re hoping it will be permanent. Both of the fathers are felons and can’t raise a child. If it becomes permanent there’s a chance my husband and I could adopt the boys.
That sounds like what would be best for them. I hope it works out like that
We do too. My sister had a serious heart condition she had a 50/50 chance of surviving both pregnancies. She got lucky the first time and decided to try and roll the dice again and it didn’t work out well. It was her choice to become stay pregnant. If we get one or both of the boys they’ll be loved and treated just like my two boys. We make plenty of money and have good insurance. If the dads get them they’ll be on every amount of government aid until they’re out of school. And that’s of the dads can stay out of prison. Neither one knows what it takes to rise kids. The older one is delayed and the dad is in denial and the baby is a premature baby.
I'm so sorry your family is going through that. It sounds like you're a close knit group, with all of you stepping up. I hope everything works out how you'd like it to and what's best for the little guys. ❤
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It’s already bed. Happening here. A teen with cancer was removed from her family because she didn’t want to continue treatment.
29again wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:08 pm
water<wine wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:59 pm
they also decided against the parents' wishes that baby alfie evans should DIE rather than be sent to america for treatment.

this is what the left wants, they want the government to decide whats best for everyone. they call the right fascists for wanting LIBERTY.
This is the kind of healthcare they want for all of us.. with a judge deciding who gets what treatment.
A judge deciding who lives or dies. There has been no crime committed, they're not on trial, they just need healthcare!
No thank you!
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