erzea wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:48 pm
Aletheia wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 1:15 pm
Again, you are repeating you claim that there is an unbroken chain.
But you have not yet provided evidence that the complete chain is unbroken.
You say that Srila Bhakti Sidhanta Saraswati Thakur Maharaja testifies that Srila Prabhupada correctly understood everything that Srila Maharaja passed onto him, and that Srila Maharaja passed onto him everything that was passed onto Srila Maharaja by Srila Maharaja's predecessor.
Did you personally hear Srila Maharaja say this?
And who is it who testified that Srila Maharaja really was recognised by Srila Maharaja's predecessor? Again, did you personally hear that testimony?
as i have already admined that no child has seen his real father tilling his mother before birth.
for it is our mother ( or authority ) who has seen him before our birth.
and only testimony is this Practical explanation which supports his authority and if you think that there is any fallacy in it than you are free to point that out. and finish the business.
In which case, this is more like the case of an orphan. One day an old woman knocks on the orphan's door and claims "I am your mother, and I can tell you who your father was."
The orphan replies, "If indeed you are my mother, then I will trust you as to the identity of who my father is. But first, please prove that you are my mother."
"Ha!", says the old woman, "Nothing simpler. I have here a letter from my mother, your grandmother. She was present at your birth and so can testify that you are indeed my son."
"Good", says the orphan, in a relieved voice, "Bring me to my grandmother that I may hear it from her in person."
"Alas", responded the old woman, "She is dead. But you can trust her. I myself know her to be a trustworthy woman, and will testify that this letter is indeed from her. And I'm your own mother, so you should trust me."
"Um", said the orphan looking a little regretful, "I have not yet established that you are my mother, so I can't trust you yet. It is true you are carrying a piece of paper with words written upon it, but other than your own testimony, is there any reason for me to trust the words written on the paper?"
"Yes", said the old woman, now looking rather snappish, "Your grandmother was raised to be honest and truthful by your great-grandmother. Your grandmother herself told me this and that she is truthful, and since she is truthful I trust what she said."
"What else did she say?" asked the orphan.
"She said that black people are violent and that the moon is made of green cheese and that you should give me lots of money and do exactly what I say or something terrible will happen to you" said the old woman, proudly.
"Sounds like a bit of a nutter to me", said the orphan, and closed the door.