NEARLY 80 PERCENT OF AMERICANS DO NOT BELIEVE IMMIGRATION BOOSTS CRIME
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I find it very interesting that the article only uses the term "immigration". There is a huge difference between legal immigration and people illegally coming across the border. I do agree that legal immigration absolutely does not "boost crime". People that come illegally across the border are committing a crime just being here so...
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Illegal Immigration Does Not Increase Violent Crime, 4 Studies Show
The Trump administration regularly asserts that undocumented immigrants are predatory and threaten public safety. Immigrant advocates say that talk demonizes an entire class of people.
Now, four academic studies show that illegal immigration does not increase the prevalence of violent crime or drug and alcohol problems. In the slew of research, motivated by Trump's rhetoric, social scientists set out to answer this question: Are undocumented immigrants more likely to break the law?
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Is there a link to the survey? What were the questions that were asked? And, who were polled?
Everybody knows that you can make a survey/poll say what you want it to say based on who and how you ask. So, this sounds very questionable to me.
Yes, most Americans have no problem with legal immigration. Now, illegal immigration is a different thing altogether. So, I really have to wonder if the survey questions made ANY distinction between the two.
Everybody knows that you can make a survey/poll say what you want it to say based on who and how you ask. So, this sounds very questionable to me.
Yes, most Americans have no problem with legal immigration. Now, illegal immigration is a different thing altogether. So, I really have to wonder if the survey questions made ANY distinction between the two.
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Technically, though I doubt very much that that is the kind of crime that the poll is referencing. It’s pretty obvious that “crime” is referring to crimes against person and property and probably drug offenses. I don’t think that 20% is thinking that there’s suddenly a lot more embezzlement, forgery, or failing to obey traffic signs or obtain proper building permits. Lol!Poietes wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:39 pm I find it very interesting that the article only uses the term "immigration". There is a huge difference between legal immigration and people illegally coming across the border. I do agree that legal immigration absolutely does not "boost crime". People that come illegally across the border are committing a crime just being here so...
I love that response, though. It’s like the people who make that argument have this childlike naivete about them. They’ve retained that very simplistic, concrete way of thinking that most adults eventually outgrow. It reminds me of when I thought it was soooooo clever as a kid to cup my hands and ask someone if there was anything in my hands. If they said “no,” I’d say “yes there is! There’s AIR!” Of course the adults knew that, it’s just that they have a more mature sense of conversation where not every obvious thing needs to be plainly stated, so the question meant something different to them. For most adults, asking whether illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crime has a more advanced starting point, some obvious truths are just automatically accepted and don’t need to be part of the answer. For others you still have to acknowledge that there’s air in the child’s hands before you can proceed.
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Have you seen most of the voting population or the ones that are being polled? They are the childish immature people you are speaking of. Hell most of these people thought Trump and Hillary were the best the US had to offer. I really don’t equate most adults as the “mature” populace you catorgoize them in. A majority of the time especially on here you have to spell things out for people because they love to take words at absolute fave value.SolidlyAverage wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:51 pmTechnically, though I doubt very much that that is the kind of crime that the poll is referencing. It’s pretty obvious that “crime” is referring to crimes against person and property and probably drug offenses. I don’t think that 20% is thinking that there’s suddenly a lot more embezzlement, forgery, or failing to obey traffic signs or obtain proper building permits. Lol!Poietes wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:39 pm I find it very interesting that the article only uses the term "immigration". There is a huge difference between legal immigration and people illegally coming across the border. I do agree that legal immigration absolutely does not "boost crime". People that come illegally across the border are committing a crime just being here so...
I love that response, though. It’s like the people who make that argument have this childlike naivete about them. They’ve retained that very simplistic, concrete way of thinking that most adults eventually outgrow. It reminds me of when I thought it was soooooo clever as a kid to cup my hands and ask someone if there was anything in my hands. If they said “no,” I’d say “yes there is! There’s AIR!” Of course the adults knew that, it’s just that they have a more mature sense of conversation where not every obvious thing needs to be plainly stated, so the question meant something different to them. For most adults, asking whether illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crime has a more advanced starting point, some obvious truths are just automatically accepted and don’t need to be part of the answer. For others you still have to acknowledge that there’s air in the child’s hands before you can proceed.
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I'm sorry. Did you not see my question? I suppose I should have quoted you directly to be sure.Mother_of_Dragons wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:53 pmhttps://www.newsweek.com/americans-poll ... me-1363060Since the launch of his 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump has repeatedly drawn links between immigration and crime, defending his demand for the construction of a border wall between the U.S. and Mexico by repeatedly accusing migrants and asylum seekers of "bringing drugs" and "bringing crime" into the country.
I must say Newsweek was clever in their questioning if you're aiming to fool the simpletons.
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Please cite those studies. I'm sure you have before since you are confident you are correct, but I must have missed it. I must warn you, I am particular with reputable sources. So a study by BuzzFeed won't cut it for me.Mother_of_Dragons wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:11 pm Illegal Immigration Does Not Increase Violent Crime, 4 Studies Show
The Trump administration regularly asserts that undocumented immigrants are predatory and threaten public safety. Immigrant advocates say that talk demonizes an entire class of people.
Now, four academic studies show that illegal immigration does not increase the prevalence of violent crime or drug and alcohol problems. In the slew of research, motivated by Trump's rhetoric, social scientists set out to answer this question: Are undocumented immigrants more likely to break the law?