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Anonadon wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:17 am I’m not being intolerant. She can believe whatever she wants. It’s just shitty to think love is wrong between any two adults because something that probably doesn’t even exist told you to do so. You’ll never convince me that’s not hate.
Quorra2.0 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:44 am You can believe what you want, doesn’t change the fact that it’s not the definition of hate. It’s sad. I really don’t think you realize what you are doing. Saying “it’s hard to tolerate hate” and redefining hate to justify and make you feel better about your own intolerances. Not realizing that shaming someone for something they believe, for their free thoughts, is trying to infringe on her human right to free thought. Her having those beliefs, those free thoughts, do not in and of themselves infringe on anyone’s human rights. As I said earlier, be careful of your own intolerances.
Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:33 pm Deeming something wrong that happens between two consenting adults and harms no one is my definition of hate.

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Well, it an inaccurate and hateful definition.

Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:33 pm Deeming something wrong that happens between two consenting adults and harms no one is my definition of hate.
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Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm It’s hard to tolerate hate.

Where out of all that did you get hate? Disagreeing with something, thinking it’s wrong doesn’t equate to hate. Tolerance is fake and meaningless if it’s only given to those we agree with. How can that even be defined as tolerance? Be cautious with your intolerance otherwise, you become what you believe your fighting against.

The truth is, we all have a bit of hypocrisy and a level of intolerance and we should. But one needs to carefully weigh what one is intolerant of and how hypocritical one is when condemning others for intolerance.
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Yes, you are being intolerant. But I’m tired of going round and round with someone close minded, unwilling to evolve to a higher understanding, and set on continuing the cycles of intolerance and hate.

Anonadon wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:17 am I’m not being intolerant. She can believe whatever she wants. It’s just shitty to think love is wrong between any two adults because something that probably doesn’t even exist told you to do so. You’ll never convince me that’s not hate.
Quorra2.0 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:44 am You can believe what you want, doesn’t change the fact that it’s not the definition of hate. It’s sad. I really don’t think you realize what you are doing. Saying “it’s hard to tolerate hate” and redefining hate to justify and make you feel better about your own intolerances. Not realizing that shaming someone for something they believe, for their free thoughts, is trying to infringe on her human right to free thought. Her having those beliefs, those free thoughts, do not in and of themselves infringe on anyone’s human rights. As I said earlier, be careful of your own intolerances.
Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:33 pm Deeming something wrong that happens between two consenting adults and harms no one is my definition of hate.

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Oh my. Aren’t YOU the hateful, intolerant one...? Thanks for proving my point...
Why do you give a rat’s ass what I believe? Why do I need to justify my beliefs to you or anyone else? You want to believe the book I consider to be truth is “dumb”? Cool. None of my business and as long as YOU don’t interfere with my right to believe whatever I want, I don’t care about your prejudices. The moment I use those beliefs to attack, harm or insult another person, please, feel free to hit me with your self righteousness. But as long as I’M being the tolerant one, respecting the rights of others to act according to their beliefs, please spare me your attempt at moral superiority. It’s pathetic that you’re portraying yourself as the voice against hatred, when YOU are the one demeaning me and my beliefs.
Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:52 pm Your beliefs are based upon nothing. A dumb book told you it’s wrong to love a person with the same genitalia as you. Can you even explain why you think it’s wrong?
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:38 pm No, it’s not. Maybe you’re the one projecting a more lenient view of “hatred”. The one really being LESS tolerant. So I ask again... you see my personal beliefs as wrong. Do you HATE me? And if so, why? What have I done to hurt those you agree with for you to hate me?
Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:33 pm Deeming something wrong that happens between two consenting adults and harms no one is my definition of hate.

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Exactly. And Anonadon is the perfect example of this nonsense. She considers herself more tolerant and less hateful because as long as no one is getting hurt, that’s her definition of “OK”? So obviously she can agree with more people, therefore she’s more tolerant. BS. Tolerance is measured by how you treat those you disagree with, not by the amount of people you can agree with. And let see... I think homosexual acts are wrong, but I wouldn’t demean or mistreat a person that chooses to engage in an homosexual relationship. In fact, my mom is good friends with a gay double, she even went to their wedding. And when she invited them over for her birthday I cooked the whole meal and was happy to cook for them (I guess I gotta say that another firm belief Imhave is that food is love, lol) and during the meal they asked us questions about being Orthodox Jews and me, my DH and my sons were happy to answer any questions and treated them like the human beings they are, deserving of honor and respect, even if we disagree with their actions.

But then there’s Anonadon, glorifying herself as the one fighting against hatred. But instead of giving me that same respect, she says that my views are based on “nothing” and calls my sacred book “dumb”... so what’s really an example of hatred? Isn’t it obvious? I don’t care what others choose to DO, I wouldn’t insult or mistreat them over it. But she does insult me and demean me based on what I THINK? Gee, talk about intolerance..
AZLizardLady wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:02 am Evidently tolerance is limited to only agreement and what that isn't found, hypocrisy is.

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Because you’re using those beliefs to justify homosexuality as wrong. So call me intolerant and hateful all you want, but you wear that hat, too. Just under the guise of religion, which makes it worse.

And I notice you deflected.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:10 am Oh my. Aren’t YOU the hateful, intolerant one...? Thanks for proving my point...
Why do you give a rat’s ass what I believe? Why do I need to justify my beliefs to you or anyone else? You want to believe the book I consider to be truth is “dumb”? Cool. None of my business and as long as YOU don’t interfere with my right to believe whatever I want, I don’t care about your prejudices. The moment I use those beliefs to attack, harm or insult another person, please, feel free to hit me with your self righteousness. But as long as I’M being the tolerant one, respecting the rights of others to act according to their beliefs, please spare me your attempt at moral superiority. It’s pathetic that you’re portraying yourself as the voice against hatred, when YOU are the one demeaning me and my beliefs.
Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:52 pm Your beliefs are based upon nothing. A dumb book told you it’s wrong to love a person with the same genitalia as you. Can you even explain why you think it’s wrong?
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:38 pm No, it’s not. Maybe you’re the one projecting a more lenient view of “hatred”. The one really being LESS tolerant. So I ask again... you see my personal beliefs as wrong. Do you HATE me? And if so, why? What have I done to hurt those you agree with for you to hate me?

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I am not the least bit religious and I know that the boy parts fit the girl and the girl parts fit the boy.

Why do you deny science?

Anonadon wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:01 pm Because you’re using those beliefs to justify homosexuality as wrong. So call me intolerant and hateful all you want, but you wear that hat, too. Just under the guise of religion, which makes it worse.

And I notice you deflected.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:10 am Oh my. Aren’t YOU the hateful, intolerant one...? Thanks for proving my point...
Why do you give a rat’s ass what I believe? Why do I need to justify my beliefs to you or anyone else? You want to believe the book I consider to be truth is “dumb”? Cool. None of my business and as long as YOU don’t interfere with my right to believe whatever I want, I don’t care about your prejudices. The moment I use those beliefs to attack, harm or insult another person, please, feel free to hit me with your self righteousness. But as long as I’M being the tolerant one, respecting the rights of others to act according to their beliefs, please spare me your attempt at moral superiority. It’s pathetic that you’re portraying yourself as the voice against hatred, when YOU are the one demeaning me and my beliefs.
Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:52 pm Your beliefs are based upon nothing. A dumb book told you it’s wrong to love a person with the same genitalia as you. Can you even explain why you think it’s wrong?

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Anonadon wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:01 pm Because you’re using those beliefs to justify homosexuality as wrong. So call me intolerant and hateful all you want, but you wear that hat, too. Just under the guise of religion, which makes it worse.

And I notice you deflected.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:10 am Oh my. Aren’t YOU the hateful, intolerant one...? Thanks for proving my point...
Why do you give a rat’s ass what I believe? Why do I need to justify my beliefs to you or anyone else? You want to believe the book I consider to be truth is “dumb”? Cool. None of my business and as long as YOU don’t interfere with my right to believe whatever I want, I don’t care about your prejudices. The moment I use those beliefs to attack, harm or insult another person, please, feel free to hit me with your self righteousness. But as long as I’M being the tolerant one, respecting the rights of others to act according to their beliefs, please spare me your attempt at moral superiority. It’s pathetic that you’re portraying yourself as the voice against hatred, when YOU are the one demeaning me and my beliefs.
Anonadon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:52 pm Your beliefs are based upon nothing. A dumb book told you it’s wrong to love a person with the same genitalia as you. Can you even explain why you think it’s wrong?

What are your religious affiliations?
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LGB 2008- we just want tolerance and the right to live our lives the way we want, there is no "gay agenda".

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What she’s doing, imo, is most dangerous and destructive to tolerance growth. I own my intolerance, And one of them happens to be towards the infringement on the most basic human right of free thought. Shaming someone, trying to call it intolerance, trying to call it hate for what they believe, for their very basic human right, when it’s not being acted on to infringe on others, IS infringement of free thought. It’s trying to control and dictate how another person thinks. I don’t give a rats ass what she believes. It’s when she started the sanctimonious and totally fake “it’s hard to tolerate hate” that it crossed a line for me. Before a person can fight intolerance in the world, they need to identify, understand, and change those intolerances that they can in their own hearts.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:25 am Exactly. And Anonadon is the perfect example of this nonsense. She considers herself more tolerant and less hateful because as long as no one is getting hurt, that’s her definition of “OK”? So obviously she can agree with more people, therefore she’s more tolerant. BS. Tolerance is measured by how you treat those you disagree with, not by the amount of people you can agree with. And let see... I think homosexual acts are wrong, but I wouldn’t demean or mistreat a person that chooses to engage in an homosexual relationship. In fact, my mom is good friends with a gay double, she even went to their wedding. And when she invited them over for her birthday I cooked the whole meal and was happy to cook for them (I guess I gotta say that another firm belief Imhave is that food is love, lol) and during the meal they asked us questions about being Orthodox Jews and me, my DH and my sons were happy to answer any questions and treated them like the human beings they are, deserving of honor and respect, even if we disagree with their actions.

But then there’s Anonadon, glorifying herself as the one fighting against hatred. But instead of giving me that same respect, she says that my views are based on “nothing” and calls my sacred book “dumb”... so what’s really an example of hatred? Isn’t it obvious? I don’t care what others choose to DO, I wouldn’t insult or mistreat them over it. But she does insult me and demean me based on what I THINK? Gee, talk about intolerance..
AZLizardLady wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:02 am Evidently tolerance is limited to only agreement and what that isn't found, hypocrisy is.

Don't go to his church. Voila!
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