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Billie.jeens wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:15 pm
ReadingRainbow wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:06 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:51 pm


Then you should have no trouble explaining it
BACKGROUND
Title 18, U.S. Code, sections 371 (Conspiracy) and 951 (Agents of Foreign Governments)
3. Title 18 of the United States Code, section 371 (Conspiracy to Commit Offense or to
Defraud United States), makes it a criminal offense for any person(s) to conspire together with one
or more others either to commit an offense against the United States or to defraud the United States,
or any agency thereof, in any manner or for any purpose.
4. Title 18 of the United States Code, section 951 (Agents of Foreign Governments),
makes it a criminal offense for any person, other than a diplomatic or consular official or attache,
to act in the United States as an agent of a foreign government without prior notification to the
Attorney General, as required by law. For purposes of this law, the term "agent of a foreign
government" includes an individual who agrees to operate within the United States subject to the
direction or control of a foreign government or official.
Relevant Persons and Definitions
5. Defendant BUTINA is a Russian citizen who entered the United States in August 2016
on an F-1 Student Visa. Before and after her arrival in the United States, BUTINA served as
Special Assistant to the RUSSIAN OFFICIAL. Conspiring together, BUTINA and the RUSSIAN
OFFICIAL took various overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy and to effect the illegal purpose
thereof.
6. The RUSSIAN OFFICIAL is a Russian citizen and a high-level official in the Russian
government. The RUSSIAN OFFICIAL was previously a member of the legislature of the Russian
Federation and later became a top official at the Russian Central Bank. TheRUSSIAN OFFICIAL
directed BUTINA's activities in furtherance of the conspiracy

She didn't fill out the proper form.
Correct.
That's number 4, yes...

But that's not what #3 means... That's not what #5 means. That's not what #6 means. Look at those ones carefully ,and you will understand why it's not just the lack of paperwork that is the issue here.
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ReadingRainbow wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:37 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:15 pm
ReadingRainbow wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:06 pm

BACKGROUND
Title 18, U.S. Code, sections 371 (Conspiracy) and 951 (Agents of Foreign Governments)
3. Title 18 of the United States Code, section 371 (Conspiracy to Commit Offense or to
Defraud United States), makes it a criminal offense for any person(s) to conspire together with one
or more others either to commit an offense against the United States or to defraud the United States,
or any agency thereof, in any manner or for any purpose.
4. Title 18 of the United States Code, section 951 (Agents of Foreign Governments),
makes it a criminal offense for any person, other than a diplomatic or consular official or attache,
to act in the United States as an agent of a foreign government without prior notification to the
Attorney General, as required by law. For purposes of this law, the term "agent of a foreign
government" includes an individual who agrees to operate within the United States subject to the
direction or control of a foreign government or official.
Relevant Persons and Definitions
5. Defendant BUTINA is a Russian citizen who entered the United States in August 2016
on an F-1 Student Visa. Before and after her arrival in the United States, BUTINA served as
Special Assistant to the RUSSIAN OFFICIAL. Conspiring together, BUTINA and the RUSSIAN
OFFICIAL took various overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy and to effect the illegal purpose
thereof.
6. The RUSSIAN OFFICIAL is a Russian citizen and a high-level official in the Russian
government. The RUSSIAN OFFICIAL was previously a member of the legislature of the Russian
Federation and later became a top official at the Russian Central Bank. TheRUSSIAN OFFICIAL
directed BUTINA's activities in furtherance of the conspiracy

She didn't fill out the proper form.
Correct.
That's number 4, yes...

But that's not what #3 means... That's not what #5 means. That's not what #6 means. Look at those ones carefully ,and you will understand why it's not just the lack of paperwork that is the issue here.
She knows. But she's desperate not to face it.
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it’s really bizarre to watch someone be so condescending while also being almost 100% wrong nearly all the time.
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:18 pm
ReadingRainbow wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:37 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:15 pm


She didn't fill out the proper form.
Correct.
That's number 4, yes...

But that's not what #3 means... That's not what #5 means. That's not what #6 means. Look at those ones carefully ,and you will understand why it's not just the lack of paperwork that is the issue here.
She knows. But she's desperate not to face it.
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TheQueenOfEverything wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:04 pm it’s really bizarre to watch someone be so condescending while also being almost 100% wrong nearly all the time.
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:18 pm
ReadingRainbow wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:37 pm

That's number 4, yes...

But that's not what #3 means... That's not what #5 means. That's not what #6 means. Look at those ones carefully ,and you will understand why it's not just the lack of paperwork that is the issue here.
She knows. But she's desperate not to face it.
IMO, it's hilarious, lol.
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I've noticed that too.
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:04 pm it’s really bizarre to watch someone be so condescending while also being almost 100% wrong nearly all the time.
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:18 pm
ReadingRainbow wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:37 pm

That's number 4, yes...

But that's not what #3 means... That's not what #5 means. That's not what #6 means. Look at those ones carefully ,and you will understand why it's not just the lack of paperwork that is the issue here.
She knows. But she's desperate not to face it.
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CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:19 am
Billie.jeens wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:40 pm
Lemons wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:23 pm

You don’t understand what she plead guilty to?
I do

Do you?
What is an agent of Russia's government who does not complete the legally required documentation?
A spy.
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CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:35 am
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:06 pm Speaking of living in a fantasy... If she didn’t do anything illegal, why did she plead guilty to a felony?
Billie.jeens wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:52 pm The fantasy world that you all live in is extraordinary.
This is what she is guilty of.

WASHINGTON – Russian national Maria Butina pleaded guilty Thursday to conspiring to act as an agent for the Kremlin without registering in the United States.

She didn't fill out a form - everything that she actually did was legal.
So it's okay to conspire to act as an agent for the Kremlin (or any other foreign government) as long as one "registers"?
It's a well known fact that all Russian "ambassadors" working in this country are spies. But our country knows it and keeps a surveillance on them. That's why Obama threw 35 Russian ambassadors and their families out of the country when it became know that they were interfering with out elections in 2016.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak is a "registered" spy for Russia and a big part of the Trump criminal investigation.
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CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:35 am
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:06 pm Speaking of living in a fantasy... If she didn’t do anything illegal, why did she plead guilty to a felony?
Billie.jeens wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:52 pm The fantasy world that you all live in is extraordinary.
This is what she is guilty of.

WASHINGTON – Russian national Maria Butina pleaded guilty Thursday to conspiring to act as an agent for the Kremlin without registering in the United States.

She didn't fill out a form - everything that she actually did was legal.
So it's okay to conspire to act as an agent for the Kremlin (or any other foreign government) as long as one "registers"?

What (in your Opinion) is the purpose of registering?
“Modern journalism is all about deciding which facts the public shouldn’t know because they might reflect badly on Democrats."
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Billie.jeens wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:33 am
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:35 am
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:06 pm Speaking of living in a fantasy... If she didn’t do anything illegal, why did she plead guilty to a felony?
So it's okay to conspire to act as an agent for the Kremlin (or any other foreign government) as long as one "registers"?

What (in your Opinion) is the purpose of registering?
Why don’t you go read something from a reputable source if you want to learn something new? You aren’t fooling anyone, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The women get caught red handed spying for Russia. She found herself some big ol Republican patsys and went for it. What is so hard are to figure out?
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Lemons wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:56 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:33 am
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:35 am

So it's okay to conspire to act as an agent for the Kremlin (or any other foreign government) as long as one "registers"?

What (in your Opinion) is the purpose of registering?
Why don’t you go read something from a reputable source if you want to learn something new? You aren’t fooling anyone, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The women get caught red handed spying for Russia. She found herself some big ol Republican patsys and went for it. What is so hard are to figure out?


Do you not know why the Government wants people to register?
“Modern journalism is all about deciding which facts the public shouldn’t know because they might reflect badly on Democrats."
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