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Wow, actually a DMCA notice for a republishing / copywriter infringement violation? Or since you mention Google - their advice is not to allow it due to their strategy for optimizing search engines by reducing duplicate content?

I guess this is what Billie asked above, sorry for the duplicate question.

I appreciate just the link and a summary - some of those full articles are so long to read. Although many news sites now require a digital subscription, so reading at the links is going to be really difficult.

ERA - just saw your reply!
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It appears no notice -

Yep- just google, being google.

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KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:06 pm Wow, actually a DMCA notice for a republishing / copywriter infringement violation? Or since you mention Google - their advice is not to allow it due to their strategy for optimizing search engines by reducing duplicate content?

I guess this is what Billie asked above, sorry for the duplicate question.

I appreciate just the link and a summary - some of those full articles are so long to read. Although many news sites now require a digital subscription, so reading at the links is going to be really difficult.
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Yea, google is very strict on what they do and don’t allow. I get notices from them daily about things that need changed but this was my first real theat.

The other sites that I deal with are all original blog content. I’ve never had an entire forum group demonetized before for dmca violations but the forums that I ran before were much different than this one.
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:08 pm It appears no notice -

Yep- just google, being google.

(I never understand why busybodies that don't know the answer to a question have to insert themselves)
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:06 pm Wow, actually a DMCA notice for a republishing / copywriter infringement violation? Or since you mention Google - their advice is not to allow it due to their strategy for optimizing search engines by reducing duplicate content?

I guess this is what Billie asked above, sorry for the duplicate question.

I appreciate just the link and a summary - some of those full articles are so long to read. Although many news sites now require a digital subscription, so reading at the links is going to be really difficult.
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I guess Google assumes they are helping you. But I wouldn't say they can prove a DMCA violation - they have no way of knowing if (example here) I have written authorization from the original author to republish - and some news sites give blanket authorization to republish as long as you retain their guidelines and agree to the terms of republishing.

But erring on the side of caution is best. It also helps you with a track record of compliance - you can show you earned us and you'll need to remove violating posts. By doing so, you won't have to turn over individual users information .

Thanks for the additional detail.
12skipafew wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:14 pm Yea, google is very strict on what they do and don’t allow. I get notices from them daily about things that need changed but this was my first real theat.

The other sites that I deal with are all original blog content. I’ve never had an entire forum group demonetized before for dmca violations but the forums that I ran before were much different than this one.
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:08 pm It appears no notice -

Yep- just google, being google.

(I never understand why busybodies that don't know the answer to a question have to insert themselves)
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:06 pm Wow, actually a DMCA notice for a republishing / copywriter infringement violation? Or since you mention Google - their advice is not to allow it due to their strategy for optimizing search engines by reducing duplicate content?

I guess this is what Billie asked above, sorry for the duplicate question.

I appreciate just the link and a summary - some of those full articles are so long to read. Although many news sites now require a digital subscription, so reading at the links is going to be really difficult.
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Nobody posts the crap you post unless they’re abnormal.” - derp
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Things also get more difficult with a forum. If I reposted an article with written authorization or shared it within guidelines on a blog, I could appeal to google with my evidence and have the content indexed and monetized again.

With a forum, I would have to research each source and request authorization either from the source or have the person who posted acquire authorization and then submit evidence. At this point news and politics has a lot of topics made and most of them are articles.

My options at this point are to either delete all of the current posts made, go through myself and adjust the posts, or request the topic authors to change the posts, then resubmit to google and hope that it’s good enough.

I really don’t want to start fresh with news and politics but it would be the easier option since this is the main group they are upset about. I’m going to think of ways I can do this without effecting things too much. One option I was thinking about is to delete older posts and change up the newer ones to fit the guidelines.
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:25 pm I guess Google assumes they are helping you. But I wouldn't say they can prove a DMCA violation - they have no way of knowing if (example here) I have written authorization from the original author to republish - and some news sites give blanket authorization to republish as long as you retain their guidelines and agree to the terms of republishing.

But erring on the side of caution is best. It also helps you with a track record of compliance - you can show you earned us and you'll need to remove violating posts. By doing so, you won't have to turn over individual users information .

Thanks for the additional detail.
12skipafew wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:14 pm Yea, google is very strict on what they do and don’t allow. I get notices from them daily about things that need changed but this was my first real theat.

The other sites that I deal with are all original blog content. I’ve never had an entire forum group demonetized before for dmca violations but the forums that I ran before were much different than this one.
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:08 pm It appears no notice -

Yep- just google, being google.

(I never understand why busybodies that don't know the answer to a question have to insert themselves)

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Big challenges.
I'd vote for starting fresh - just group delete. I fear your reports will increase though as people will mainly be fighting over opinions without being able to post articles that support their opinion. As I said before, many sites are requiring subscriptions- so I know when I see a Washington Post link I won't even click on it - can't read it. But this is a necessary evil for you to remain searchable and monetized by Google. Trying to maintain lists of authorizations would be a nightmare.
12skipafew wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:42 pm Things also get more difficult with a forum. If I reposted an article with written authorization or shared it within guidelines on a blog, I could appeal to google with my evidence and have the content indexed and monetized again.

With a forum, I would have to research each source and request authorization either from the source or have the person who posted acquire authorization and then submit evidence. At this point news and politics has a lot of topics made and most of them are articles.

My options at this point are to either delete all of the current posts made, go through myself and adjust the posts, or request the topic authors to change the posts, then resubmit to google and hope that it’s good enough.

I really don’t want to start fresh with news and politics but it would be the easier option since this is the main group they are upset about. I’m going to think of ways I can do this without effecting things too much. One option I was thinking about is to delete older posts and change up the newer ones to fit the guidelines.
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:25 pm I guess Google assumes they are helping you. But I wouldn't say they can prove a DMCA violation - they have no way of knowing if (example here) I have written authorization from the original author to republish - and some news sites give blanket authorization to republish as long as you retain their guidelines and agree to the terms of republishing.

But erring on the side of caution is best. It also helps you with a track record of compliance - you can show you earned us and you'll need to remove violating posts. By doing so, you won't have to turn over individual users information .

Thanks for the additional detail.
12skipafew wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:14 pm Yea, google is very strict on what they do and don’t allow. I get notices from them daily about things that need changed but this was my first real theat.

The other sites that I deal with are all original blog content. I’ve never had an entire forum group demonetized before for dmca violations but the forums that I ran before were much different than this one.

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Nobody posts the crap you post unless they’re abnormal.” - derp
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Delete this group? Then what?
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:57 pm Big challenges.
I'd vote for starting fresh - just group delete. I fear your reports will increase though as people will mainly be fighting over opinions without being able to post articles that support their opinion. As I said before, many sites are requiring subscriptions- so I know when I see a Washington Post link I won't even click on it - can't read it. But this is a necessary evil for you to remain searchable and monetized by Google. Trying to maintain lists of authorizations would be a nightmare.
12skipafew wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:42 pm Things also get more difficult with a forum. If I reposted an article with written authorization or shared it within guidelines on a blog, I could appeal to google with my evidence and have the content indexed and monetized again.

With a forum, I would have to research each source and request authorization either from the source or have the person who posted acquire authorization and then submit evidence. At this point news and politics has a lot of topics made and most of them are articles.

My options at this point are to either delete all of the current posts made, go through myself and adjust the posts, or request the topic authors to change the posts, then resubmit to google and hope that it’s good enough.

I really don’t want to start fresh with news and politics but it would be the easier option since this is the main group they are upset about. I’m going to think of ways I can do this without effecting things too much. One option I was thinking about is to delete older posts and change up the newer ones to fit the guidelines.
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:25 pm I guess Google assumes they are helping you. But I wouldn't say they can prove a DMCA violation - they have no way of knowing if (example here) I have written authorization from the original author to republish - and some news sites give blanket authorization to republish as long as you retain their guidelines and agree to the terms of republishing.

But erring on the side of caution is best. It also helps you with a track record of compliance - you can show you earned us and you'll need to remove violating posts. By doing so, you won't have to turn over individual users information .

Thanks for the additional detail.
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When the idiot progressives figure out what monetize means, they are going to be pissed anyway.

KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:57 pm Big challenges.
I'd vote for starting fresh - just group delete. I fear your reports will increase though as people will mainly be fighting over opinions without being able to post articles that support their opinion. As I said before, many sites are requiring subscriptions- so I know when I see a Washington Post link I won't even click on it - can't read it. But this is a necessary evil for you to remain searchable and monetized by Google. Trying to maintain lists of authorizations would be a nightmare.
12skipafew wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:42 pm Things also get more difficult with a forum. If I reposted an article with written authorization or shared it within guidelines on a blog, I could appeal to google with my evidence and have the content indexed and monetized again.

With a forum, I would have to research each source and request authorization either from the source or have the person who posted acquire authorization and then submit evidence. At this point news and politics has a lot of topics made and most of them are articles.

My options at this point are to either delete all of the current posts made, go through myself and adjust the posts, or request the topic authors to change the posts, then resubmit to google and hope that it’s good enough.

I really don’t want to start fresh with news and politics but it would be the easier option since this is the main group they are upset about. I’m going to think of ways I can do this without effecting things too much. One option I was thinking about is to delete older posts and change up the newer ones to fit the guidelines.
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:25 pm I guess Google assumes they are helping you. But I wouldn't say they can prove a DMCA violation - they have no way of knowing if (example here) I have written authorization from the original author to republish - and some news sites give blanket authorization to republish as long as you retain their guidelines and agree to the terms of republishing.

But erring on the side of caution is best. It also helps you with a track record of compliance - you can show you earned us and you'll need to remove violating posts. By doing so, you won't have to turn over individual users information .

Thanks for the additional detail.
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I'm not going to call them idiots, but progressives really may have an issue with it.

Myself, as a capitalist, I'm happy to help figure out the best way to improve or optimize monetization, without me subscribing that is.
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:23 pm When the idiot progressives figure out what monetize means, they are going to be pissed anyway.

KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:57 pm Big challenges.
I'd vote for starting fresh - just group delete. I fear your reports will increase though as people will mainly be fighting over opinions without being able to post articles that support their opinion. As I said before, many sites are requiring subscriptions- so I know when I see a Washington Post link I won't even click on it - can't read it. But this is a necessary evil for you to remain searchable and monetized by Google. Trying to maintain lists of authorizations would be a nightmare.
12skipafew wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:42 pm Things also get more difficult with a forum. If I reposted an article with written authorization or shared it within guidelines on a blog, I could appeal to google with my evidence and have the content indexed and monetized again.

With a forum, I would have to research each source and request authorization either from the source or have the person who posted acquire authorization and then submit evidence. At this point news and politics has a lot of topics made and most of them are articles.

My options at this point are to either delete all of the current posts made, go through myself and adjust the posts, or request the topic authors to change the posts, then resubmit to google and hope that it’s good enough.

I really don’t want to start fresh with news and politics but it would be the easier option since this is the main group they are upset about. I’m going to think of ways I can do this without effecting things too much. One option I was thinking about is to delete older posts and change up the newer ones to fit the guidelines.

“You’re either on drugs or retarded.
Nobody posts the crap you post unless they’re abnormal.” - derp
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Are you getting a cut?
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:29 pm I'm not going to call them idiots, but progressives really may have an issue with it.

Myself, as a capitalist, I'm happy to help figure out the best way to improve or optimize monetization, without me subscribing that is.
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:23 pm When the idiot progressives figure out what monetize means, they are going to be pissed anyway.

KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:57 pm Big challenges.
I'd vote for starting fresh - just group delete. I fear your reports will increase though as people will mainly be fighting over opinions without being able to post articles that support their opinion. As I said before, many sites are requiring subscriptions- so I know when I see a Washington Post link I won't even click on it - can't read it. But this is a necessary evil for you to remain searchable and monetized by Google. Trying to maintain lists of authorizations would be a nightmare.

“Modern journalism is all about deciding which facts the public shouldn’t know because they might reflect badly on Democrats."
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