As Trump airs his election doubts, many supporters say they won't accept a Biden win in 2024

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SallyMae wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:00 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:55 am
Della wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:48 am

I'm sure it will change multiple times from April 28, 2024.

Personally I'm furious at Biden. His glad handling Israel and side stepping what his administration knows is happening is unfuckingacceptable. And I honestly believe Trump and the Republicans party are dangerous for America and Americans.

America is on the way out.
America is going to be just fine…
If Trump had succeeded in retaining power illegitimately in 2020, we would now be a dictatorship. That could happen again. How do you figure that's "fine"?
America was fine before him,
America was fine during his presidency,
And America is fine after him…


The fear mongering just doesn’t work anymore…
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:15 am
Della wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:55 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:20 am I don’t even think that’s something we’re going to have to worry about…


Biden isn’t going to win.
Who will win?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/04/28/poli ... en-matchup
Polling like this really doesn't matter. What matters is how voters vote in the swing states. Currently, polling in swing states has Trump ahead but within the margin of error. What's significant is that his lead has diminished since March polling in every single swing state. Also significant that Haley received 16% of vote in GOP Pennsylvania primary in April and 20% of vote in Indiana primary earlier this week.

Of course, if Trump is convicted in the current campaign finance case, that will be a huge game changer.

Bottom line is it's just too early to tell.

I am NOT a huge Biden fan but I don't dislike him enough to subvert democracy by voting for Trump and in a two party system, there are no other options. Perhaps if I lived in a solidly Blue or Red state, I'd consider throwing away my vote on a third party candidate in protest but I'm in a purple state so no chance. I'm confident that Biden will win the general election.
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:55 am
Della wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:48 am
I'm sure it will change multiple times from April 28, 2024.

Personally I'm furious at Biden. His glad handling Israel and side stepping what his administration knows is happening is unfuckingacceptable. And I honestly believe Trump and the Republicans party are dangerous for America and Americans.

America is on the way out.
America is going to be just fine…
You really aren't paying attention to him and his team players.
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But I'm still the winner! They lied! They cheated! They stole the election!
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:06 am
SallyMae wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:00 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:55 am

America is going to be just fine…
If Trump had succeeded in retaining power illegitimately in 2020, we would now be a dictatorship. That could happen again. How do you figure that's "fine"?
America was fine before him,
America was fine during his presidency,
And America is fine after him…


The fear mongering just doesn’t work anymore…
Can you explain your reasoning? Do you think if Trump had succeeded in illegitimately retaining power, that would have been "fine"? Do you think he will never try anything like that again? Do you think if he does, he will definitely not succeed? Or do you think if he succeeds in illegitimaely retaining power, that's "fine"?
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Della wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:18 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:55 am
Della wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:48 am

I'm sure it will change multiple times from April 28, 2024.

Personally I'm furious at Biden. His glad handling Israel and side stepping what his administration knows is happening is unfuckingacceptable. And I honestly believe Trump and the Republicans party are dangerous for America and Americans.

America is on the way out.
America is going to be just fine…
You really aren't paying attention to him and his team players.
And you really like prophesying the downfall of America…

Fact of the matter is, when Trump was president, the country as a whole was doing better than it is now.
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SallyMae wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:20 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:06 am
SallyMae wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:00 am

If Trump had succeeded in retaining power illegitimately in 2020, we would now be a dictatorship. That could happen again. How do you figure that's "fine"?
America was fine before him,
America was fine during his presidency,
And America is fine after him…


The fear mongering just doesn’t work anymore…
Can you explain your reasoning? Do you think if Trump had succeeded in illegitimately retaining power, that would have been "fine"? Do you think he will never try anything like that again? Do you think if he does, he will definitely not succeed? Or do you think if he succeeds in illegitimaely retaining power, that's "fine"?
I think he’s going to win because more people will vote for him than Biden or RFK.


And I think when that happens, we’ll be fine.
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WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:13 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:15 am
Della wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:55 am

Who will win?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/04/28/poli ... en-matchup
Polling like this really doesn't matter. What matters is how voters vote in the swing states. Currently, polling in swing states has Trump ahead but within the margin of error. What's significant is that his lead has diminished since March polling in every single swing state. Also significant that Haley received 16% of vote in GOP Pennsylvania primary in April and 20% of vote in Indiana primary earlier this week.

Of course, if Trump is convicted in the current campaign finance case, that will be a huge game changer.

Bottom line is it's just too early to tell.

I am NOT a huge Biden fan but I don't dislike him enough to subvert democracy by voting for Trump and in a two party system, there are no other options. Perhaps if I lived in a solidly Blue or Red state, I'd consider throwing away my vote on a third party candidate in protest but I'm in a purple state so no chance. I'm confident that Biden will win the general election.
Ok. Time will tell…
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:22 am
Della wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:18 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 10:55 am

America is going to be just fine…
You really aren't paying attention to him and his team players.
And you really like prophesying the downfall of America…

Fact of the matter is, when Trump was president, the country as a whole was doing better than it is now.
And you are a "patriot" 😂😂😂
306/232

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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:23 am
SallyMae wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:20 am
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:06 am

America was fine before him,
America was fine during his presidency,
And America is fine after him…


The fear mongering just doesn’t work anymore…
Can you explain your reasoning? Do you think if Trump had succeeded in illegitimately retaining power, that would have been "fine"? Do you think he will never try anything like that again? Do you think if he does, he will definitely not succeed? Or do you think if he succeeds in illegitimaely retaining power, that's "fine"?
I think he’s going to win because more people will vote for him than Biden or RFK.


And I think when that happens, we’ll be fine.
But, Trump does not respect the peaceful transfer of power. Providing he lives that long, are you 100% confident that he will peacefully step away from the Presidency at the end of his term? Even if the winner is a Democrat?
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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Martin Niemöller
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But I'm still the winner! They lied! They cheated! They stole the election!
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