Slimshandy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 4:38 pm
WellPreserved wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 4:19 pm
Traci_Momof2 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 4:01 pm
To be honest, I don't know and I don't really care. But I don't see how separating by S*x is creating more fairness than separating by any other factor.
Maybe we should get rid of separations entirely. If you are human and want to compete you have to be as good as these other humans who want to compete. End of story.
Or we could continue to separate sports by men and women, recognize that transgender women are women, and a sometimes a transgender women who represents 0.025% of women athletes may possibly win, lol. Sometimes transgender men win too.
There is a huge difference between someone who feels like a woman, and someone who has the physical body of a woman.
To deny that is to deny science…
To take the fairness aspect away from women means that you’re valuing inclusivity more than you value fairness to women in sports.
I don't define a woman based on her chromosomes or external genitalia and am loath to disqualify transgender and intersex women (less than 1% of the population) from all sport based on perceived advantage when the science is not decided.
"A new study financed by the International Olympic Committee found that transgender female athletes showed greater handgrip strength — an indicator of overall muscle strength — but lower jumping ability, lung function and relative cardiovascular fitness compared with women whose gender was assigned female at birth.
That data, which also compared trans women with men, contradicted a broad claim often made by proponents of rules that bar transgender women from competing in women’s sports. It also led the study’s authors to caution against a rush to expand such policies, which already bar transgender athletes from a handful of Olympic sports.
The study’s most important finding, according to one of its authors, Yannis Pitsiladis, a member of the I.O.C.’s medical and scientific commission, was that, given physiological differences, “Trans women are not biological men.”
The authors cautioned against the presumption of immutable and disproportionate advantages for transgender female athletes who compete in women’s sports, and they advised against “precautionary bans and sport eligibility exclusions” that were not based on sport-specific research."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/worl ... =url-share
I also find this fear mongering about transgender women taking away scholarship opportunities from "real" women absurd. As I posted before, out of 200,000 NCAA women athletes, 50 are women and to date, no transgender woman has received a NCAA athletic scholarship. The fact that parents are in a tizzy about this reflects more about our lack of free education which is a MUCH bigger issue than a few women with a Y chromosome or a couple of women with testes.
Arkansas's restrictive abortion laws makes it clear that they don't care about or protect women. I find the headline laughable.
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