UCLA anti-Israel protesters ask supporters for vegan and gluten-free food, zip ties, shields and EpiPens

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Aletheia wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:48 am
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Moreover, over time, multiple strains of Zionism have emerged, including political Zionism, religious Zionism, and cultural Zionism.
  • Political: When people refer to “Zionism” today, this is often what they mean. Founded by 19th Century thinker Theodore Herzl, it sees the “Jewish problem” as having a solution in a “Jewish state.” As nationalism rose in Europe, many, including Herzl, saw Jews as outsiders to the nation, unable or unwilling to assimilate or be fully accepted as members of the nation-state. According to Herzl, this “problem” should be solved by a community of nations by establishing a Jewish state in Palestine.
  • Religious: Many, but not all, forms of Zionism have their roots in theological interpretations. It is important to note that this form of Zionism is not exclusive to Jewish religious traditions. For example, some evangelical Christian denominations believe that in order to facilitate the second coming of Christ, Jews must “gather” in Israel as part of Biblical prophecy.
  • Cultural: Most often attributed to Herzl’s contemporary, Ahad Ha’am (Asher Ginsberg), this form of Zionism called for a spiritual and cultural center for Jewish people in Palestine, but not for a “Jewish state” in the same way Herzl did. Instead, this form of Zionism calls for Jews to share a national language and culture.
The political ideology of Zionism, regardless of which strain, has resulted in the establishment of a Jewish nation-state in the land of historic Palestine. In 1948, 750,000 Palestinians were expelled as part of that process, their homes and property confiscated. Despite recognition of their rights by the United Nations, their rights to return and be compensated have long been denied by the US and Israel. In 1967, Israel occupied what is now known as the Occupied Palestinian Territories, putting millions of people under military rule. Longstanding systemic inequalities privilege Jews over Palestinians inside Israel and in the Occupied Territories.

For more, please see this speech by former JVP Deputy Director Cecilie Surasky, “Settler colonialism, white supremacy, and the ‘special relationship’ between the U.S. and Israel
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/
Also interesting.
Very.
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See what I mean? Perfect example. Spreading false blood libels, rewriting history with a narrative that portrays Jews as violent and imperialistic and therefore suggesting Israel isn’t a legitimate country. That it was founded on the suffering of “Palestinians”, which couldn’t be farther for the truth.
And then pretend it’s not antisemitism, it’s “antizionism” which really is the modern day antisemitism.
Zionism just means the right of Jewish people to self determination and governance in their indigenous homeland-Israel, a.k.a Judea. It’s a movement of decolonization, which would be applauded if it was any other marginalized and persecuted group, but if it’s Jews… it’s evil. Saying that one isn’t an antisemite, just an antizionist is like someone saying they’re not anti American, they’re just against America existing.

And there’s the double standard I was telling you about again: the biggest colonizers and “land grabbers” in history have been the Arabs. Half the countries in the Arab League have no business being Arab. They were violently conquered, the indigenous population massacred, expelled or forced to convert and the Arabs settling and colonizing the place, all in the name of Islamist Imperialism. But that’s OK…
But Jews settling in their ancient homeland, given to them by the rulers of the land at the time. Recreating their country in a tiny piece of land the size of New Jersey… evil, colonizing murdering Zionists bent on world domination, I tell you!!!
Aletheia wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:48 am
Della wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 4:05 am Thoughts?
Moreover, over time, multiple strains of Zionism have emerged, including political Zionism, religious Zionism, and cultural Zionism.
  • Political: When people refer to “Zionism” today, this is often what they mean. Founded by 19th Century thinker Theodore Herzl, it sees the “Jewish problem” as having a solution in a “Jewish state.” As nationalism rose in Europe, many, including Herzl, saw Jews as outsiders to the nation, unable or unwilling to assimilate or be fully accepted as members of the nation-state. According to Herzl, this “problem” should be solved by a community of nations by establishing a Jewish state in Palestine.
  • Religious: Many, but not all, forms of Zionism have their roots in theological interpretations. It is important to note that this form of Zionism is not exclusive to Jewish religious traditions. For example, some evangelical Christian denominations believe that in order to facilitate the second coming of Christ, Jews must “gather” in Israel as part of Biblical prophecy.
  • Cultural: Most often attributed to Herzl’s contemporary, Ahad Ha’am (Asher Ginsberg), this form of Zionism called for a spiritual and cultural center for Jewish people in Palestine, but not for a “Jewish state” in the same way Herzl did. Instead, this form of Zionism calls for Jews to share a national language and culture.
The political ideology of Zionism, regardless of which strain, has resulted in the establishment of a Jewish nation-state in the land of historic Palestine. In 1948, 750,000 Palestinians were expelled as part of that process, their homes and property confiscated. Despite recognition of their rights by the United Nations, their rights to return and be compensated have long been denied by the US and Israel. In 1967, Israel occupied what is now known as the Occupied Palestinian Territories, putting millions of people under military rule. Longstanding systemic inequalities privilege Jews over Palestinians inside Israel and in the Occupied Territories.

For more, please see this speech by former JVP Deputy Director Cecilie Surasky, “Settler colonialism, white supremacy, and the ‘special relationship’ between the U.S. and Israel
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/
Also interesting.
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:05 am Yes. You can’t say that any protests against Boko Haram in the U.S ever reached even remotely the levels of the anti Israel protests.
What about the actual genocide being committed by the Houthis in Yemen? These protesters actually supported them.

https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/anti ... i-violence

And America did send billions of dollars to Iran, who support and fund the Houthis…
Aletheia wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:52 am
Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:33 am
Where were this oh-so concerned students?
Where were the American students, you mean?

American hadn't just voted to send billions of dollars in aid to Boko Haram.
How many American students have ever met someone from Boko Haram?

Did the US back the designated terrorist organization?
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:19 am See what I mean? Perfect example. Spreading false blood libels, rewriting history with a narrative that portrays Jews as violent and imperialistic and therefore suggesting Israel isn’t a legitimate country. That it was founded on the suffering of “Palestinians”, which couldn’t be farther for the truth.
And then pretend it’s not antisemitism, it’s “antizionism” which really is the modern day antisemitism.
Zionism just means the right of Jewish people to self determination and governance in their indigenous homeland-Israel, a.k.a Judea. It’s a movement of decolonization, which would be applauded if it was any other marginalized and persecuted group, but if it’s Jews… it’s evil. Saying that one isn’t an antisemite, just an antizionist is like someone saying they’re not anti American, they’re just against America existing.
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https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/
Also interesting.
Only your truth is the correct one, yes?
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No. THE truth is the correct one. There is such a thing as historical facts, you know?
And you twist them, corrupt them and deny them all because you don’t believe Jews should have a country in their ancestral homeland. 🤷🏼‍♀️
Keep your lies. Obviously they make you feel righteous for supporting terrorists.
Della wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:23 am
Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:19 am See what I mean? Perfect example. Spreading false blood libels, rewriting history with a narrative that portrays Jews as violent and imperialistic and therefore suggesting Israel isn’t a legitimate country. That it was founded on the suffering of “Palestinians”, which couldn’t be farther for the truth.
And then pretend it’s not antisemitism, it’s “antizionism” which really is the modern day antisemitism.
Zionism just means the right of Jewish people to self determination and governance in their indigenous homeland-Israel, a.k.a Judea. It’s a movement of decolonization, which would be applauded if it was any other marginalized and persecuted group, but if it’s Jews… it’s evil. Saying that one isn’t an antisemite, just an antizionist is like someone saying they’re not anti American, they’re just against America existing.
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Also interesting.
Only your truth is the correct one, yes?
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:29 am No. THE truth is the correct one. There is such a thing as historical facts, you know?
And you twist them, corrupt them and deny them all because you don’t believe Jews should have a country in their ancestral homeland. 🤷🏼‍♀️
Keep your lies. Obviously they make you feel righteous for supporting terrorists.
Della wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:23 am
Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:19 am See what I mean? Perfect example. Spreading false blood libels, rewriting history with a narrative that portrays Jews as violent and imperialistic and therefore suggesting Israel isn’t a legitimate country. That it was founded on the suffering of “Palestinians”, which couldn’t be farther for the truth.
And then pretend it’s not antisemitism, it’s “antizionism” which really is the modern day antisemitism.
Zionism just means the right of Jewish people to self determination and governance in their indigenous homeland-Israel, a.k.a Judea. It’s a movement of decolonization, which would be applauded if it was any other marginalized and persecuted group, but if it’s Jews… it’s evil. Saying that one isn’t an antisemite, just an antizionist is like someone saying they’re not anti American, they’re just against America existing.

Only your truth is the correct one, yes?
Sounds like you're projecting.
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These read as "peaceful"...😬🤔

"NYPD share 'Death to Israel,' 'Death to America' signs found on NYU property | Fox News" https://www.foxnews.com/us/death-israel ... perty-nypd
just an old coot 😉🌵
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AZOldGal66 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:46 am These read as "peaceful"...😬🤔

"NYPD share 'Death to Israel,' 'Death to America' signs found on NYU property | Fox News" https://www.foxnews.com/us/death-israel ... perty-nypd
"The police chief noted that "99%" of those arrested were students."
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Della wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:57 am
AZOldGal66 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:46 am These read as "peaceful"...😬🤔

"NYPD share 'Death to Israel,' 'Death to America' signs found on NYU property | Fox News" https://www.foxnews.com/us/death-israel ... perty-nypd
"The police chief noted that "99%" of those arrested were students."
On Thursday morning, the NYPD said a preliminary analysis of the 282 people arrested Tuesday night at Columbia and the City College of New York 47% were not affiliated with either school.

At Columbia, 32 people arrested were not affiliated with the university, while about 80 people were, according to the NYPD. At CCNY, 102 people arrested were not affiliated and 68 were, police said.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nyc-officials ... =109821934
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Lexy wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 12:11 pm
Della wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:57 am
AZOldGal66 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 11:46 am These read as "peaceful"...😬🤔

"NYPD share 'Death to Israel,' 'Death to America' signs found on NYU property | Fox News" https://www.foxnews.com/us/death-israel ... perty-nypd
"The police chief noted that "99%" of those arrested were students."
On Thursday morning, the NYPD said a preliminary analysis of the 282 people arrested Tuesday night at Columbia and the City College of New York 47% were not affiliated with either school.

At Columbia, 32 people arrested were not affiliated with the university, while about 80 people were, according to the NYPD. At CCNY, 102 people arrested were not affiliated and 68 were, police said.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nyc-officials ... =109821934
Shouldn't that make you question the rest of the reporting in that report?
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