President's tweet removed for medical misinformation

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Valentina327 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:19 pm
Lemons wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:47 pm
KnotaDinghy wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:33 am

It’s very easy to compare.

The nurses in NYC out playing in the street taking photos wearing garbage bags gave their opinion on PPE supplies. It was opinion that was countered by other opinions but maybe their direct area, group, Department was really out of PPE. Anecdotal but could be their reality.

These drs are giving their opinion on a treatment plan they’ve used for patients they’ve seen. Anecdotal but could be their reality. Other opinions by other drs in other hospitals, cities or countries may have had different experience.

There is nothing wrong with varying opinions in science.

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The doctor is lying. She can’t verify where she treated over 350 patients and cured them because it’s not true. How can anyone be so gullible?

There are plenty of actual doctors who are actually on the front line who are speaking about their real experiences with patients. Why would you want to believe a group who have been flown in to DC to create a propaganda film?

Can you verify that at least one of these doctors is working in a hospital treating patients?
Except Dr. Gold. Who is on the front lines of this group of physicians. And has 31 years in emergency medicine.

https://www.healthgrades.com/physician/ ... gold-2wsfq

I find it much more concerning that tech geeks and reporters are telling us what's misinformation and what's science. None of the people making these sweeping decisions about "what's best for the American people" to be allowed to read are practicing physicians. None of them have observed patients with active disease and seen what a medication can do. They have no medical knowledge what so ever. This is pure censorship.

There was also a doctor in Texas that came out similarly a few weeks ago about HCQ, and was being blocked by the local government from prescribing it. Pharmacies were calling her and questioning her diagnosis and why she was prescribing it! That's absolutely outrageous that politicians are locking a doctor out of using a drug.

Anyone who doesn't see this as frightening isn't very smart or isn't looking at the big picture. The patient physician relationship doesn't belong being breached by the government - think ABORTION. You're all certainly all about that decision remaining between a woman and her doctor. What's different about this again? Absolutely NOTHING. If your doctor wants to prescribe something that they've seen work, which has a well established safety profile, you shouldn't be deprived of being able to try it if you want to. Ever.

There are other doctors than Fauci, who hasn't had his hands on a patient in 30 years, that have opinions. There are doctors, other than Fauci, who have no financial stake in seeing a vaccine be distributed to tens of millions of people. Yet, he's the only one we're allowed to hear from.

Follow the money. Who's got a financial stake in the vaccine production front runner? Who's been shoveling money at them? WHY?

These aren't the only doctors that have come out in favor of this medication either, to politicians who are blocking it.

Below a group of physicians put this letter together to ask Ducey to remove his block on physicians using HCQ. Embedded in this letter are two links to documents - one to the list of studies. The other is to a chart summarizing the findings and showing a 91% efficacy of HCQ.

https://aapsonline.org/aaps-letter-aski ... -covid-19/

Read this excerpt. From the oldest study available. All the way back to 2005. Did you know that existed? It shows HCQ to be a powerful treatment AND INHIBITOR. Know who's team discovered it? ANTHONY FAUCI. The weasel knows this works yet has let over 100,000 Americans die. Let's ask ourselves WHY.


22 August 2005
CDC Special Pathogens Branch
MJ VIncet, E.Bergon, S. Benjannet, BR Erickson, Pierre Rollin, T.G. Ksiazek, NG Seidah,
ST Nichole. Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread. Virology Journal. (2005) 2: 69
Chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS CoV infection of primate cells in tissue culture. These inhibitory effects are observed when cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic preventative and treatment use. The paper describes three mechanisms by which the drug might work and suggest it may have both a prophylactic and therapeutic role in Coronavirus infections.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/03 ... ts-himself

You're constantly telling us how smart you are. Call Twitter - I think there's some misinformation that needs to be flagged.
I agree with some of your points, however there are quite a few prescription drugs "flagged" by pharmacies due to misuse and illegal practices, such as pain killers. Drugs that can cause harm to patients when improperly prescribed are tracked and regulated this way.

The FDA has now identified hydroxychloroquine in this category. It has revoked any "emergency use" approval and warns against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems.

Also, Dr. Fauci does work with patients in the field, and was hands-on during the Ebola outbreak with medical teams and helping to demonstrate the safety precautions.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/03 ... ts-himself

I think the important point is not about this specific drug's use, but the type of information being sent out by our President. When he speaks during a public health emergency it should be 100% vetted by the best experts in the field. We have a WH Task Force and the information should be coming from them, not random videos shown on cable outlets which are not vetted for accuracy - and in fact conflict with the WH Task Force.
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MonkeySeeMonkeyDo wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:04 am
Lemons wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:15 pm Why is he so obsessed with this? Presidents have no right to hawk potentially dangerous medication or any medication. He went on and on at his press conference about how he took it and he's fine and doctors are saying it's saving lives. He has a cult like following who believe every word out of his mouth no matter how ludicrous, making it even more dangerous. Leave to the medical experts.
I believe it’s come out he’s got investments in the company that makes it.
Stop spreading stupid rumors. Hydroxychloroquine has been used for malaria, lupus, some forms of arthritis for the past 70 years. It costs a whopping 50 cents a pill. No big profit to be made from drs prescribing hydroxychloroquine, Which is why big pharma, and the elite with investments in Gilead which makes Remdesivir attack the use of hydroxychloroquine every day. Remdesivir goes for $2,340 for six vials (a 5 day treatment).

So, you're barking up the wrong tree here. If you want to know who's going to be raking it in on Remdesivir, do some research.
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Lemons wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:42 pm
KnotaDinghy wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:32 pm
Lemons wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:47 pm

The doctor is lying. She can’t verify where she treated over 350 patients and cured them because it’s not true. How can anyone be so gullible?

There are plenty of actual doctors who are actually on the front line who are speaking about their real experiences with patients. Why would you want to believe a group who have been flown in to DC to create a propaganda film?

Can you verify that at least one of these doctors is working in a hospital treating patients?
I only searched to find this clip. I don’t know who all the other drs are. I could find the time to dig further and answer you, but I’d forgotten that you are the poster who always argue every point until you figure you win. So I’m exiting here. It’s not worth trying to even converse with you.
Why don’t you just admit you were wrong, you shouldn’t have automatically defended it without more information? Weak excuse on your part.

I don’t doubt that some doctors agree that this medication is worth using in some patients. But the knee jerk defense from Trumps base on this video was more verification that you automatically believe whatever he Tweets or says.
I wasn’t.
“You’re either on drugs or retarded.
Nobody posts the crap you post unless they’re abnormal.” - derp
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