Female HS track star says lawsuit to overturn Conn. transgender athlete policy 'absolutely necessary'

[SouthernIslander]

So "you do you" with certain exceptions and boundaries?

I think it’s fair to say that biological males put girls at a major competitive disadvantage. Completely support LGBT community but compromise in areas like this is reasonable.

Honestly, I'm on the fence. I don't think there is a solution that everyone will agree is fair. Currently, collegiate sports allow transgenders to compete when conditions are met. I think that high school sports should be less restrictive rather than more restrictive than collegiate sports. I also think in the not so distant future, schools won't know which of their students are transgender and IMO that is not a bad thing.

I don’t think it’s fair at a college level either TBH. It’s not about being able to tell appearance wise for me. More about physical advantage/disadvantage.

[Traci_Momof2]

I think this is the issue right here. For a long time we women (in general) have screamed to be treated just like the men. Now we are angry that we have to compete with the men. Well we can't have it both ways. If we want to be treated just like the men we should be able to compete with the men. Or, if we can't compete with the men because they are physically superior, then perhaps there are other physical jobs that us women shouldn't be doing (such as firefighter). See the conflict?
As women we tend to want our cake and eat it too but life just doesn't work that way.

I agree. I know the feminists like to jump up and down and insist we're equal, but reality and biology dictates we aren't. You've gone through puberty as a male - testosterone makes your muscles bigger and your bones and joints heavier and capable of doing more physically.

It's absolutely unfair to these girls. I'm all for trans rights and being able to live how you're comfortable living and respecting that in a person. I've been an ally for over 30 years. That's not an issue for anyone else and doesn't effect others. You do you as they say. However, this most definitely effects others and a line needs to be drawn.

[SouthernIslander]

So "you do you" with certain exceptions and boundaries?

I think it’s fair to say that biological males put girls at a major competitive disadvantage. Completely support LGBT community but compromise in areas like this is reasonable.

I agree. I’m also troubled by the message we are also sending to young girls, that they are still second class citizens. A big part of being female, is that history. Being female isn’t about about make up, the clothes or shoes you wear. Those who are transgender should understand what being second class is, and should exhibit the same empathy and compassion they are wanting to receive.

I also don’t like sending the message that transgender women are physically equal to women. I haven’t seen it a lot so this isn’t a generalization but for example.... I have seen trans women threaten to fight a woman as if it wasn’t equivalent to a man hitting a woman.


Transgenders are treated like a second class citizen and worse in a lot of ways. But I think that we all need to be mindful do there are certain uncontrollable factors that makes bio males and women different.

[WellPreserved]

I think it’s fair to say that biological males put girls at a major competitive disadvantage. Completely support LGBT community but compromise in areas like this is reasonable.

Honestly, I'm on the fence. I don't think there is a solution that everyone will agree is fair. Currently, collegiate sports allow transgenders to compete when conditions are met. I think that high school sports should be less restrictive rather than more restrictive than collegiate sports. I also think in the not so distant future, schools won't know which of their students are transgender and IMO that is not a bad thing.

I don’t think it’s fair at a college level either TBH. It’s not about being able to tell appearance wise for me. More about physical advantage/disadvantage.

I'm on the fence about it at the college level too, lol. I believe, at least with NCAA, that a M-F transgender athlete must be on hormone blockers for one year.

My problem is not with the lawsuit in general but with denying the ability of high school athletes to compete in sports that they would be able to participate in at the college level.

I think this is one of the cases where it needs to be top down and consistent - pro sports, olympic sports, collegiate sports, and high school. I have a problem with the inconsistency but don't think high school sports should be where the change initiates.

[Della]

If a biological male runs the mile in 5 minutes and a biological female runs it in 7, isn't it possible to adjust for the differences to determine a winner? Sort of like grading on a curve.

*I feel like I'm going to get yelled at for that comment.

[Valentina327]

I think this is the issue right here. For a long time we women (in general) have screamed to be treated just like the men. Now we are angry that we have to compete with the men. Well we can't have it both ways. If we want to be treated just like the men we should be able to compete with the men. Or, if we can't compete with the men because they are physically superior, then perhaps there are other physical jobs that us women shouldn't be doing (such as firefighter). See the conflict?
As women we tend to want our cake and eat it too but life just doesn't work that way.

I agree. I know the feminists like to jump up and down and insist we're equal, but reality and biology dictates we aren't. You've gone through puberty as a male - testosterone makes your muscles bigger and your bones and joints heavier and capable of doing more physically.

It's absolutely unfair to these girls. I'm all for trans rights and being able to live how you're comfortable living and respecting that in a person. I've been an ally for over 30 years. That's not an issue for anyone else and doesn't effect others. You do you as they say. However, this most definitely effects others and a line needs to be drawn.

You're right. For example, I wouldn't want to be drafted. I worried about that when I was younger, because if you want total equality that means we register for selective service and could be called up just like the boys. Not me. I'm too old now

[Valentina327]

If a biological male runs the mile in 5 minutes and a biological female runs it in 7, isn't it possible to adjust for the differences to determine a winner? Sort of like grading on a curve.

*I feel like I'm going to get yelled at for that comment.

It might make sense then to have a girls team and a boys team, where only girls compete against girls, no?

[Valentina327]

I agree. I know the feminists like to jump up and down and insist we're equal, but reality and biology dictates we aren't. You've gone through puberty as a male - testosterone makes your muscles bigger and your bones and joints heavier and capable of doing more physically.

It's absolutely unfair to these girls. I'm all for trans rights and being able to live how you're comfortable living and respecting that in a person. I've been an ally for over 30 years. That's not an issue for anyone else and doesn't effect others. You do you as they say. However, this most definitely effects others and a line needs to be drawn.

So "you do you" with certain exceptions and boundaries?

When you're infringing on others and harming them? Yes.
Just like anything else.

[Della]

If a biological male runs the mile in 5 minutes and a biological female runs it in 7, isn't it possible to adjust for the differences to determine a winner? Sort of like grading on a curve.

*I feel like I'm going to get yelled at for that comment.

It might make sense then to have a girls team and a boys team, where only girls compete against girls, no?

? I'm not sure I understand, but I'm a bit frazzled at the moment, lol.

[Deleted User 1074]

easy solution here, make all sports co-ed. Now I wait for sjws to explain how that would be unfair and give biological males an advantage

wait a minute?