https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/14/poli ... ssion=true
Also, stop F***ing saying this:
The American people didn't believe that. They made him their president."
The American people didn't believe that. They made him their president."
I know. They keep saying "the American people" made him president. Trump has never had the majority of American people who have wanted him to be president. Never.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:34 pm I will be honest. I did not for one second think that the Senate would vote to impeach the president. I'm legitimately sad that they aren't even pretending to be the deliberative body they historically were and are supposed to be. I should be shocked by what Graham and McConnell are saying, but they have proven to be such craven, cynical, pathetic cowards, it's not surprising in the least. I truly, truly dont understand carrying Trump's water like this.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/14/poli ... ssion=true
Also, stop F***ing saying this:
The American people didn't believe that. They made him their president."
True, and in acting like his pearls weren’t near snapping from clutching in horror and that his knickers didn’t almost rip from twisting in his furious glee to impeach Clinton in the 90s.
You don't think they've deliberated all of this time? They've seen the testimony. They've had the opportunity to weigh everything amongst each other simultaneous to what Congress has been conducting. I think they've been pondering this whole time.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:34 pm I will be honest. I did not for one second think that the Senate would vote to impeach the president. I'm legitimately sad that they aren't even pretending to be the deliberative body they historically were and are supposed to be. I should be shocked by what Graham and McConnell are saying, but they have proven to be such craven, cynical, pathetic cowards, it's not surprising in the least. I truly, truly dont understand carrying Trump's water like this.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/14/poli ... ssion=true
Also, stop F***ing saying this:
The American people didn't believe that. They made him their president."
That's not the way it works. When choosing juries they always ask what they already know about the case. They want jurors who haven't made up their minds already based on bits and pieces of information they may have heard. They want decisions based solely on what they hear in the trial. It's not the exact same but close enough. No one in the Senate has even had a chance to ask their own questions.Valentina327 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:28 pmYou don't think they've deliberated all of this time? They've seen the testimony. They've had the opportunity to weigh everything amongst each other simultaneous to what Congress has been conducting. I think they've been pondering this whole time.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:34 pm I will be honest. I did not for one second think that the Senate would vote to impeach the president. I'm legitimately sad that they aren't even pretending to be the deliberative body they historically were and are supposed to be. I should be shocked by what Graham and McConnell are saying, but they have proven to be such craven, cynical, pathetic cowards, it's not surprising in the least. I truly, truly dont understand carrying Trump's water like this.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/14/poli ... ssion=true
Also, stop F***ing saying this:
The American people didn't believe that. They made him their president."
I was reading something a couple of days ago that one of the senators suggested they may skip even calling witnesses. I don't know if that's accurate or not. It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks.Lemons wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:38 pmThat's not the way it works. When choosing juries they always ask what they already know about the case. They want jurors who haven't made up their minds already based on bits and pieces of information they may have heard. They want decisions based solely on what they hear in the trial. It's not the exact same but close enough. No one in the Senate has even had a chance to ask their own questions.Valentina327 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:28 pmYou don't think they've deliberated all of this time? They've seen the testimony. They've had the opportunity to weigh everything amongst each other simultaneous to what Congress has been conducting. I think they've been pondering this whole time.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:34 pm I will be honest. I did not for one second think that the Senate would vote to impeach the president. I'm legitimately sad that they aren't even pretending to be the deliberative body they historically were and are supposed to be. I should be shocked by what Graham and McConnell are saying, but they have proven to be such craven, cynical, pathetic cowards, it's not surprising in the least. I truly, truly dont understand carrying Trump's water like this.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/14/poli ... ssion=true
Also, stop F***ing saying this:
Can't have it both ways. Can't use legal terms like "hearsay", trying to use rules of civil procedure when it fits you, but ignore other aspects of rules when it suits you. Senator Graham.
They have all made up their minds already. Since the Republicans have the majority he won't be removed from office. I could not believe how long the preliminary hearings were. They were broken records repeating themselves over and over.Valentina327 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:50 pmI was reading something a couple of days ago that one of the senators suggested they may skip even calling witnesses. I don't know if that's accurate or not. It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks.Lemons wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:38 pmThat's not the way it works. When choosing juries they always ask what they already know about the case. They want jurors who haven't made up their minds already based on bits and pieces of information they may have heard. They want decisions based solely on what they hear in the trial. It's not the exact same but close enough. No one in the Senate has even had a chance to ask their own questions.Valentina327 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:28 pm
You don't think they've deliberated all of this time? They've seen the testimony. They've had the opportunity to weigh everything amongst each other simultaneous to what Congress has been conducting. I think they've been pondering this whole time.
Can't have it both ways. Can't use legal terms like "hearsay", trying to use rules of civil procedure when it fits you, but ignore other aspects of rules when it suits you. Senator Graham.
So all their complaints about fairness, due process, the president not being able to mount a defense, etc., were all BS. Now that they have the opportunity for all of those things, they're copping out. They complain that rules weren't followed then refuse to follow the rules. Not surprising, that's been the GOP MO since 2008. It's because they know he's guilty as hell and they can't defend him, so they're taking their ball and going home. Utter cowards.Valentina327 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:28 pmYou don't think they've deliberated all of this time? They've seen the testimony. They've had the opportunity to weigh everything amongst each other simultaneous to what Congress has been conducting. I think they've been pondering this whole time.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:34 pm I will be honest. I did not for one second think that the Senate would vote to impeach the president. I'm legitimately sad that they aren't even pretending to be the deliberative body they historically were and are supposed to be. I should be shocked by what Graham and McConnell are saying, but they have proven to be such craven, cynical, pathetic cowards, it's not surprising in the least. I truly, truly dont understand carrying Trump's water like this.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/14/poli ... ssion=true
Also, stop F***ing saying this:
The American people didn't believe that. They made him their president."