Cyberbullying crusader Melania Trump silent on her husband's mocking of 16-year-old Thunberg

[BionicBunny]

I very clearly did answer you - he’s mocking her as having a problem and telling her to watch a movie instead of following her passions. He’s a 73 year old man who is going out of his way to insult a teenage girl.

Okay, let’s say Barron was approached by some paparazzi and had an angry, emotional rant about scrutiny on his family. That would be him wanting to be heard by the public. If President Obama tweeted the identical thing at him, would you find it kind, sincere and appropriate?

You didn’t really answer my question and you still are not. How is telling someone they have an anger problem mocking them? Telling someone to watch a movie and chill and relax, is that not a suggestion? He’s saying enjoy your youth and go do what kids your age are doing instead of stressing yourself out. Relax a little. She is a very angry girl and relaxing a bit would benefit her.
You keep using Barron as examples and forgetting that Barron is out of the spotlight and not an activist. He isn’t in politics. He is a kid being a kid, which is what Trump suggested Greta be.
If you are going to make a comparison between Greta and one of Trumps kids you would need to compare Trump Jr or Ivanka, both of which get plenty of criticism and nobody is screaming cyber bullying over them.

Does any part of how he wrote it seem like a sincere suggestion? Her being angry doesn’t mean she has an “Anger Management Problem”, nor does he know anything about her mental health, and implying she has a problem she needs to address is mocking her. Again, do you think it’s an appropriate and kind thing for a 73 year old man to go out of his way to say to a teenage girl, rather than just disagree on the merits of her argument?

I’m not forgetting a thing - I’m asking you about whether Obama tweeting the same thing to Barron would be appropriate if Barron spoke publicly, emotionally and angrily, about the scrutiny and spotlight on his family. Being an activist doesn’t somehow mean she’s fair game for personal scrutiny from adults.

Yes, being an activist does mean she is fair game for scrutiny from adults. If being a teen means adults should not criticize her then she has no place as an activist yelling at adults.
Her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows anger and emotional issues that need addressed. We know no more on Trumps mental health than Gretas but that doesn’t stop people from commenting on his mental health.
Saying someone has a problem that needs addressed is not mocking them. Trump didn’t go out of his way to say anything. He said it on twitter which is far from out of his way. The man is on there constantly.
You’re asking would it be appropriate for Obama to criticism Barron for getting upset and defending his family. How is that comparable to being an activist screaming at adults?

[Francee89]

You didn’t really answer my question and you still are not. How is telling someone they have an anger problem mocking them? Telling someone to watch a movie and chill and relax, is that not a suggestion? He’s saying enjoy your youth and go do what kids your age are doing instead of stressing yourself out. Relax a little. She is a very angry girl and relaxing a bit would benefit her.
You keep using Barron as examples and forgetting that Barron is out of the spotlight and not an activist. He isn’t in politics. He is a kid being a kid, which is what Trump suggested Greta be.
If you are going to make a comparison between Greta and one of Trumps kids you would need to compare Trump Jr or Ivanka, both of which get plenty of criticism and nobody is screaming cyber bullying over them.

Does any part of how he wrote it seem like a sincere suggestion? Her being angry doesn’t mean she has an “Anger Management Problem”, nor does he know anything about her mental health, and implying she has a problem she needs to address is mocking her. Again, do you think it’s an appropriate and kind thing for a 73 year old man to go out of his way to say to a teenage girl, rather than just disagree on the merits of her argument?

I’m not forgetting a thing - I’m asking you about whether Obama tweeting the same thing to Barron would be appropriate if Barron spoke publicly, emotionally and angrily, about the scrutiny and spotlight on his family. Being an activist doesn’t somehow mean she’s fair game for personal scrutiny from adults.

Yes, being an activist does mean she is fair game for scrutiny from adults. If being a teen means adults should not criticize her then she has no place as an activist yelling at adults.
Her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows anger and emotional issues that need addressed. We know no more on Trumps mental health than Gretas but that doesn’t stop people from commenting on his mental health.
Saying someone has a problem that needs addressed is not mocking them. Trump didn’t go out of his way to say anything. He said it on twitter which is far from out of his way. The man is on there constantly.
You’re asking would it be appropriate for Obama to criticism Barron for getting upset and defending his family. How is that comparable to being an activist screaming at adults?

No - her arguments are fair game from adults, she personally isn’t fair game for adults. What adult needs to belittle or mock a child because they disagree with their activism?

She had a speech in which she was passionate and angry. Are you asserting she’s unable to ever “make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry”? If so, proof? A single instance of expressing her disgust with the lack of action from world leaders isn’t proof of “emotional issues that need addressed”. And Trump very much doesn’t like it when people speculate on his mental health, so why would he do the same thing to someone else? How is that kind or appropriate?

Yes, he went out of his way to say it. He chose to write it and send it, when he could have said nothing at all.

If Barron spoke publicly and angrily about scrutiny on his family, how would that be any different than speaking publicly and angrily about climate change? Would you think it appropriate, kind and nice if a Democrat responded the way Trump did? Probably not, because what he said wasn’t any of those things.

[MonarchMom]

You didn’t really answer my question and you still are not. How is telling someone they have an anger problem mocking them? Telling someone to watch a movie and chill and relax, is that not a suggestion? He’s saying enjoy your youth and go do what kids your age are doing instead of stressing yourself out. Relax a little. She is a very angry girl and relaxing a bit would benefit her.
You keep using Barron as examples and forgetting that Barron is out of the spotlight and not an activist. He isn’t in politics. He is a kid being a kid, which is what Trump suggested Greta be.
If you are going to make a comparison between Greta and one of Trumps kids you would need to compare Trump Jr or Ivanka, both of which get plenty of criticism and nobody is screaming cyber bullying over them.

Does any part of how he wrote it seem like a sincere suggestion? Her being angry doesn’t mean she has an “Anger Management Problem”, nor does he know anything about her mental health, and implying she has a problem she needs to address is mocking her. Again, do you think it’s an appropriate and kind thing for a 73 year old man to go out of his way to say to a teenage girl, rather than just disagree on the merits of her argument?

I’m not forgetting a thing - I’m asking you about whether Obama tweeting the same thing to Barron would be appropriate if Barron spoke publicly, emotionally and angrily, about the scrutiny and spotlight on his family. Being an activist doesn’t somehow mean she’s fair game for personal scrutiny from adults.

Yes, being an activist does mean she is fair game for scrutiny from adults. If being a teen means adults should not criticize her then she has no place as an activist yelling at adults.
Her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows anger and emotional issues that need addressed. We know no more on Trumps mental health than Gretas but that doesn’t stop people from commenting on his mental health.
Saying someone has a problem that needs addressed is not mocking them. Trump didn’t go out of his way to say anything. He said it on twitter which is far from out of his way. The man is on there constantly.
You’re asking would it be appropriate for Obama to criticism Barron for getting upset and defending his family. How is that comparable to being an activist screaming at adults?

There is no need for the POTUS to comment on her personally at all. You can comment on her ideas, her statements on the environment, or her proposals for change. But there is no reason for remarks about her voice or personality. But that does seem to be his style for dealing with most everyone - mocking or labeling the person instead of engaging about the issues.

[Della]

Idk, I think it puts her in a bad position. I wouldn’t publicly criticize or reprimand my Dh in public, I wouldn’t want to humiliate my Dh like that. But you can sure bet I’d be giving him an earful behind closed doors. I’d probably be even more upset if I were her because he’s disrespecting her and her cause publicly.

Would he hear you?

[BionicBunny]

Does any part of how he wrote it seem like a sincere suggestion? Her being angry doesn’t mean she has an “Anger Management Problem”, nor does he know anything about her mental health, and implying she has a problem she needs to address is mocking her. Again, do you think it’s an appropriate and kind thing for a 73 year old man to go out of his way to say to a teenage girl, rather than just disagree on the merits of her argument?

I’m not forgetting a thing - I’m asking you about whether Obama tweeting the same thing to Barron would be appropriate if Barron spoke publicly, emotionally and angrily, about the scrutiny and spotlight on his family. Being an activist doesn’t somehow mean she’s fair game for personal scrutiny from adults.

Yes, being an activist does mean she is fair game for scrutiny from adults. If being a teen means adults should not criticize her then she has no place as an activist yelling at adults.
Her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows anger and emotional issues that need addressed. We know no more on Trumps mental health than Gretas but that doesn’t stop people from commenting on his mental health.
Saying someone has a problem that needs addressed is not mocking them. Trump didn’t go out of his way to say anything. He said it on twitter which is far from out of his way. The man is on there constantly.
You’re asking would it be appropriate for Obama to criticism Barron for getting upset and defending his family. How is that comparable to being an activist screaming at adults?

No - her arguments are fair game from adults, she personally isn’t fair game for adults. What adult needs to belittle or mock a child because they disagree with their activism?

She had a speech in which she was passionate and angry. Are you asserting she’s unable to ever “make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry”? If so, proof? A single instance of expressing her disgust with the lack of action from world leaders isn’t proof of “emotional issues that need addressed”. And Trump very much doesn’t like it when people speculate on his mental health, so why would he do the same thing to someone else? How is that kind or appropriate?

Yes, he went out of his way to say it. He chose to write it and send it, when he could have said nothing at all.

If Barron spoke publicly and angrily about scrutiny on his family, how would that be any different than speaking publicly and angrily about climate change? Would you think it appropriate, kind and nice if a Democrat responded the way Trump did? Probably not, because what he said wasn’t any of those things.

Democrats DO respond that way to Trump. Yet it’s ok. Democrats have not been kind and nice to Trump at all. From day one they have treated him the very way you are speaking against.
Again, Barron speaking passionately against things being said about his family or sticking up for his family is not the same as being an activist yelling at adults. You would have to make a comparison of Barron going out and being an activist, getting in politics and making comments to the adults, demanding to be heard. In that comparison then yes, he is fair game. However Barron is not out there in the spotlight. He is not an activist. He is not in politics. He is a kid being a kid. As he should be and that’s why you can’t compare him to Greta. You would have to compare his siblings to Greta. His siblings get the same scrutiny as Greta.
No, going on twitter as he always does and tweeting as he always does is not going out of his way. Do you understand what it means to go out of your way?
I never said Greta is unable to ever make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional or angry. However, she DID and does. I’m sure with anger management she could do better. Being passionate doesn’t mean losing control.

[Francee89]

Yes, being an activist does mean she is fair game for scrutiny from adults. If being a teen means adults should not criticize her then she has no place as an activist yelling at adults.
Her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows anger and emotional issues that need addressed. We know no more on Trumps mental health than Gretas but that doesn’t stop people from commenting on his mental health.
Saying someone has a problem that needs addressed is not mocking them. Trump didn’t go out of his way to say anything. He said it on twitter which is far from out of his way. The man is on there constantly.
You’re asking would it be appropriate for Obama to criticism Barron for getting upset and defending his family. How is that comparable to being an activist screaming at adults?

No - her arguments are fair game from adults, she personally isn’t fair game for adults. What adult needs to belittle or mock a child because they disagree with their activism?

She had a speech in which she was passionate and angry. Are you asserting she’s unable to ever “make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry”? If so, proof? A single instance of expressing her disgust with the lack of action from world leaders isn’t proof of “emotional issues that need addressed”. And Trump very much doesn’t like it when people speculate on his mental health, so why would he do the same thing to someone else? How is that kind or appropriate?

Yes, he went out of his way to say it. He chose to write it and send it, when he could have said nothing at all.

If Barron spoke publicly and angrily about scrutiny on his family, how would that be any different than speaking publicly and angrily about climate change? Would you think it appropriate, kind and nice if a Democrat responded the way Trump did? Probably not, because what he said wasn’t any of those things.

Democrats DO respond that way to Trump. Yet it’s ok. Democrats have not been kind and nice to Trump at all. From day one they have treated him the very way you are speaking against.
Again, Barron speaking passionately against things being said about his family or sticking up for his family is not the same as being an activist yelling at adults. You would have to make a comparison of Barron going out and being an activist, getting in politics and making comments to the adults, demanding to be heard. In that comparison then yes, he is fair game. However Barron is not out there in the spotlight. He is not an activist. He is not in politics. He is a kid being a kid. As he should be and that’s why you can’t compare him to Greta. You would have to compare his siblings to Greta. His siblings get the same scrutiny as Greta.
No, going on twitter as he always does and tweeting as he always does is not going out of his way. Do you understand what it means to go out of your way?
I never said Greta is unable to ever make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional or angry. However, she DID and does. I’m sure with anger management she could do better. Being passionate doesn’t mean losing control.

So if Trump doesn’t like it coming from other adults, why speak that way to a child?

It’s a perfectly fair comparison - either children are off limits or they aren’t. If they speak or work publicly, that doesn’t open them up to personal attacks from adults. I suspect you don’t think it would be cool for Obama to tweet Trump’s message at him in the case of his publicly complaining about scrutiny on his family - would you? If Barron was to say, speak at the RNC convention next year and passionately say his dad should be re-elected while angrily saying his dad has been attacked by political opponents, it wouldn’t be okay for others to personally attack him rather than just his message.

How is it not going out of his way to compose and send a tweet? It means he took an extra effort to do that, when saying nothing was a perfectly viable, easier option.

You literally said “her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows anger and emotional issues that need addressed”. She makes plenty of statements without being overly emotional and angry, and expressing passionate disgust in some instances doesn’t mean one has an anger management problem or “emotional issues”, lol.

[BionicBunny]

No - her arguments are fair game from adults, she personally isn’t fair game for adults. What adult needs to belittle or mock a child because they disagree with their activism?

She had a speech in which she was passionate and angry. Are you asserting she’s unable to ever “make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry”? If so, proof? A single instance of expressing her disgust with the lack of action from world leaders isn’t proof of “emotional issues that need addressed”. And Trump very much doesn’t like it when people speculate on his mental health, so why would he do the same thing to someone else? How is that kind or appropriate?

Yes, he went out of his way to say it. He chose to write it and send it, when he could have said nothing at all.

If Barron spoke publicly and angrily about scrutiny on his family, how would that be any different than speaking publicly and angrily about climate change? Would you think it appropriate, kind and nice if a Democrat responded the way Trump did? Probably not, because what he said wasn’t any of those things.

Democrats DO respond that way to Trump. Yet it’s ok. Democrats have not been kind and nice to Trump at all. From day one they have treated him the very way you are speaking against.
Again, Barron speaking passionately against things being said about his family or sticking up for his family is not the same as being an activist yelling at adults. You would have to make a comparison of Barron going out and being an activist, getting in politics and making comments to the adults, demanding to be heard. In that comparison then yes, he is fair game. However Barron is not out there in the spotlight. He is not an activist. He is not in politics. He is a kid being a kid. As he should be and that’s why you can’t compare him to Greta. You would have to compare his siblings to Greta. His siblings get the same scrutiny as Greta.
No, going on twitter as he always does and tweeting as he always does is not going out of his way. Do you understand what it means to go out of your way?
I never said Greta is unable to ever make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional or angry. However, she DID and does. I’m sure with anger management she could do better. Being passionate doesn’t mean losing control.

So if Trump doesn’t like it coming from other adults, why speak that way to a child?

It’s a perfectly fair comparison - either children are off limits or they aren’t. If they speak or work publicly, that doesn’t open them up to personal attacks from adults. I suspect you don’t think it would be cool for Obama to tweet Trump’s message at him in the case of his publicly complaining about scrutiny on his family - would you? If Barron was to say, speak at the RNC convention next year and passionately say his dad should be re-elected while angrily saying his dad has been attacked by political opponents, it wouldn’t be okay for others to personally attack him rather than just his message.

How is it not going out of his way to compose and send a tweet? It means he took an extra effort to do that, when saying nothing was a perfectly viable, easier option.

You literally said “her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows anger and emotional issues that need addressed”. She makes plenty of statements without being overly emotional and angry, and expressing passionate disgust in some instances doesn’t mean one has an anger management problem or “emotional issues”, lol.

She was unable to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry. That doesn’t mean she will never be able to make statements without being emotional. I spoke on the moment when she made a statement, crying and yelling at adults and shaming them.
If someone is on twitter all the time and tweets all the time, to make a tweet on twitter is not out of his way. Going out of your way is going somewhere or doing something you normally don’t do.
I don’t know what you don’t understand about kids who are demanding to be treated like adults, lecturing adults, in politics and being an activist will be treated as an adult when it comes to criticism. An innocent child being a child is not demanding to be treated and heard like an adult. Like I said before, there is a growing tactic of using children in politics because children should be off limits. So some people in politics think if they use children they can do so without criticism. When you have 16 and 17 year olds out there demanding to be heard like adults then expect the criticism you would get as an adult.
If the president can be criticized and treated this way an activist can be treated the same.

[Francee89]

Democrats DO respond that way to Trump. Yet it’s ok. Democrats have not been kind and nice to Trump at all. From day one they have treated him the very way you are speaking against.
Again, Barron speaking passionately against things being said about his family or sticking up for his family is not the same as being an activist yelling at adults. You would have to make a comparison of Barron going out and being an activist, getting in politics and making comments to the adults, demanding to be heard. In that comparison then yes, he is fair game. However Barron is not out there in the spotlight. He is not an activist. He is not in politics. He is a kid being a kid. As he should be and that’s why you can’t compare him to Greta. You would have to compare his siblings to Greta. His siblings get the same scrutiny as Greta.
No, going on twitter as he always does and tweeting as he always does is not going out of his way. Do you understand what it means to go out of your way?
I never said Greta is unable to ever make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional or angry. However, she DID and does. I’m sure with anger management she could do better. Being passionate doesn’t mean losing control.

So if Trump doesn’t like it coming from other adults, why speak that way to a child?

It’s a perfectly fair comparison - either children are off limits or they aren’t. If they speak or work publicly, that doesn’t open them up to personal attacks from adults. I suspect you don’t think it would be cool for Obama to tweet Trump’s message at him in the case of his publicly complaining about scrutiny on his family - would you? If Barron was to say, speak at the RNC convention next year and passionately say his dad should be re-elected while angrily saying his dad has been attacked by political opponents, it wouldn’t be okay for others to personally attack him rather than just his message.

How is it not going out of his way to compose and send a tweet? It means he took an extra effort to do that, when saying nothing was a perfectly viable, easier option.

You literally said “her not being able to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry, yelling at adults and shaming them, shows “anger and emotional issues that need addressed”. She makes plenty of statements without being overly emotional and angry, and expressing passionate disgust in some instances doesn’t mean one has an anger management problem or “emotional issues”, lol.

She was unable to make a statement as an activist without being overly emotional and angry. That doesn’t mean she will never be able to make statements without being emotional. I spoke on the moment when she made a statement, crying and yelling at adults and shaming them.
If someone is on twitter all the time and tweets all the time, to make a tweet on twitter is not out of his way. Going out of your way is going somewhere or doing something you normally don’t do.
I don’t know what you don’t understand about kids who are demanding to be treated like adults, lecturing adults, in politics and being an activist will be treated as an adult when it comes to criticism. An innocent child being a child is not demanding to be treated and heard like an adult. Like I said before, there is a growing tactic of using children in politics because children should be off limits. So some people in politics think if they use children they can do so without criticism. When you have 16 and 17 year olds out there demanding to be heard like adults then expect the criticism you would get as an adult.
If the president can be criticized and treated this way an activist can be treated the same.

And? How does a single instance point to her having “anger and emotional issues that need addressed”? Plenty of adults might lose their cool in a professional setting from time to time - do they have anger and emotional issues too, or is that just being human?

When saying nothing and scrolling on down was the easier option, choosing to hit reply, compose a tweet and hit send is going out of his way.

Why are you stating that they “will be treated as an adult when it comes to criticism” as though that’s some kind of foregone conclusion and not simply your opinion? Adults with a sense of decency won’t personally attack a child, even while disagreeing with their points and arguments. And if that’s what Melania thinks, perhaps she should change the name of her photo op project to “shut up if you want to be treated with respect, otherwise I don’t give a shit”, which would be more accurate than #BeBest.

The President is an adult. This activist is a child. It’s gross anyone would think it’s appropriate for a child to be personally attacked by adults simply for wanting to speak up and make the world a better place, rather than respectfully engaged on the merits of their arguments. Certainly doesn’t sound like a society in which people are being best, which is what Melania claims to be in favor of.

[BionicBunny]

I wonder if these people going on about Greta will even care about her when she turns 18 and they can’t say she’s a kid and you can’t criticize her. That’s pretty much how it went for David Hogg. You couldn’t turn on the news without seeing that kids face. You stopped seeing and hearing from him constantly once he turned 18.

[Della]

I wonder why mommies get pissy when their adult "child" is mentioned.