Trump complaint equating impeachment inquiry to ‘lynching’ infuriates black Texas lawmakers

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BionicBunny wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:54 pm
morgan wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:37 pm
Stop trying to use this racist language to try to incite violence and distract the American people from the real truth
Yeah. Like calling Trump Hitler and claiming he's running "concentration camps?"

Suck it up Liberals. Your false rhetoric can be thrown right back at ya.
Apparently it’s ok for them to make these references. Double standards.
Who is "them"? Lawmakers use Hitler inappropriately all the time. Both sides. Two idiot Republican southern lawmakers who don't know their history compared modern day democratic socialism to fascism and Hitler. Trying to make people fear democrats. We deserve better from a President to know his history and not misuse it for personal gain.
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I thought it was pretty obvious who “ them” were considering we heard of many Democrats making this comparison in the news. The biggest one being AOC.
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BionicBunny wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:54 pm
morgan wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:37 pm

Yeah. Like calling Trump Hitler and claiming he's running "concentration camps?"

Suck it up Liberals. Your false rhetoric can be thrown right back at ya.
Apparently it’s ok for them to make these references. Double standards.
Who is "them"? Lawmakers use Hitler inappropriately all the time. Both sides. Two idiot Republican southern lawmakers who don't know their history compared modern day democratic socialism to fascism and Hitler. Trying to make people fear democrats. We deserve better from a President to know his history and not misuse it for personal gain.
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MonarchMom wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:04 pm
BionicBunny wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:57 pm
AnonXxdarkfoxx1 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:51 pm
I wonder if we should be outraged about the comment on hanging yourself which would be suicide.
Certainly a phrase I'd like to see phased out. But not comparable to the estimated 4,000 - 5,0000 people brutally murdered in US by lynching.
Also not comparable to the millions killed during the Holocaust but it didn’t stop AOC and other Dems from comparing immigrant detention centers to Nazi concentration camps.
For the record I don’t care about the phrase enough rope to hang himself. Just pointing out how easy it is to get offended over everything today.
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1st of all, though many many black people were lynched. they were not the only group lynched. lynch refers to "mob justice" (not just at all) and punishment w/o due process.

2nd, the word "lynch" is used metaphorically nowadays. just like "witch hunt" and even "nazi" in certain contexts "grammar nazi" for example. not the way aoc used it btw.

I am pretty sure democrats are being intentionally obtuse here and deflecting from the fact they are being totally unfair by refusing to vote on the impeachment inquiry and in effect removing trump's ability to defend himself, give the republican house minority the chance to question witnesses, cross examine them and view evidence
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My people were lynched.

I'm not offended.
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water<wine wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:11 pm 1st of all, though many many black people were lynched. they were not the only group lynched. lynch refers to "mob justice" (not just at all) and punishment w/o due process.

2nd, the word "lynch" is used metaphorically nowadays. just like "witch hunt" and even "nazi" in certain contexts "grammar nazi" for example. not the way aoc used it btw.

I am pretty sure democrats are being intentionally obtuse here and deflecting from the fact they are being totally unfair by refusing to vote on the impeachment inquiry and in effect removing trump's ability to defend himself, give the republican house minority the chance to question witnesses, cross examine them and view evidence
There is no law saying they have to hold a vote to do an inquiry. This is not a trial. That takes place in the Senate where Trump will get to mount is "defense", such that it is. Republicans on the relevant committees are in during the testimonies.
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water<wine wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:11 pm 1st of all, though many many black people were lynched. they were not the only group lynched. lynch refers to "mob justice" (not just at all) and punishment w/o due process.

2nd, the word "lynch" is used metaphorically nowadays. just like "witch hunt" and even "nazi" in certain contexts "grammar nazi" for example. not the way aoc used it btw.

I am pretty sure democrats are being intentionally obtuse here and deflecting from the fact they are being totally unfair by refusing to vote on the impeachment inquiry and in effect removing trump's ability to defend himself, give the republican house minority the chance to question witnesses, cross examine them and view evidence
The "trial" happens in the Senate. That's when the presidents legal counsel can defend him. I have already admitted that I'm not pleased with how the House is handling this. I haven't seen Pelosi direct the U.S. House Committee on the Judiciary (or a special committee) to hold a hearing on the resolution to decide whether to put the measure to a vote by the full chamber and when to hold such a vote. That makes them look suspicious as hell to me.
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CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:39 pm
water<wine wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:11 pm 1st of all, though many many black people were lynched. they were not the only group lynched. lynch refers to "mob justice" (not just at all) and punishment w/o due process.

2nd, the word "lynch" is used metaphorically nowadays. just like "witch hunt" and even "nazi" in certain contexts "grammar nazi" for example. not the way aoc used it btw.

I am pretty sure democrats are being intentionally obtuse here and deflecting from the fact they are being totally unfair by refusing to vote on the impeachment inquiry and in effect removing trump's ability to defend himself, give the republican house minority the chance to question witnesses, cross examine them and view evidence
The "trial" happens in the Senate. That's when the presidents legal counsel can defend him. I have already admitted that I'm not pleased with how the House is handling this. I haven't seen Pelosi direct the U.S. House Committee on the Judiciary (or a special committee) to hold a hearing on the resolution to decide whether to put the measure to a vote by the full chamber and when to hold such a vote. That makes them look suspicious as hell to me.
Just my opinion but I think it was a pretty brilliant move. Three weeks ago democrats in the house, especially those in swing districts, were worried about voting for impeachment. In just the few weeks, tide has changed and the majority of Americans want to see impeachment. After Taylor's testimony, Republicans from swing states are going to be worried about voting against impeachment. This past month has seen testimony that is pretty damning and the proceedings have been totally within the bounds of the Constitution. Pelosi will have a vote to impeach and she will have bi-partisan support. This is easier for the American public to understand than a vote for inquiry with only democrats supporting, if that makes sense.
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Lemons wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:14 pm
BionicBunny wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:54 pm
morgan wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:37 pm

Yeah. Like calling Trump Hitler and claiming he's running "concentration camps?"

Suck it up Liberals. Your false rhetoric can be thrown right back at ya.
Apparently it’s ok for them to make these references. Double standards.
Who is "them"? Lawmakers use Hitler inappropriately all the time. Both sides. Two idiot Republican southern lawmakers who don't know their history compared modern day democratic socialism to fascism and Hitler. Trying to make people fear democrats. We deserve better from a President to know his history and not misuse it for personal gain.
So fascinating how short some memories are - how many times did the Tea Party and Conservatives claim Obama was Hitler. Remember the conspiracy theory about Obama installing check points on American roads? Or when those vans were being transported and instead of finding out where they were really going, they ASSumed and made up another conspiracy theory. Or his "FEMA CAMPS"?

SUCK IT UP HYPOCRITES. You've been full of double standards since 2006, and as GOP Rep. Wilson put it, "YOU LIE!"
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msb64 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:48 pm
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:39 pm
water<wine wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:11 pm 1st of all, though many many black people were lynched. they were not the only group lynched. lynch refers to "mob justice" (not just at all) and punishment w/o due process.

2nd, the word "lynch" is used metaphorically nowadays. just like "witch hunt" and even "nazi" in certain contexts "grammar nazi" for example. not the way aoc used it btw.

I am pretty sure democrats are being intentionally obtuse here and deflecting from the fact they are being totally unfair by refusing to vote on the impeachment inquiry and in effect removing trump's ability to defend himself, give the republican house minority the chance to question witnesses, cross examine them and view evidence
The "trial" happens in the Senate. That's when the presidents legal counsel can defend him. I have already admitted that I'm not pleased with how the House is handling this. I haven't seen Pelosi direct the U.S. House Committee on the Judiciary (or a special committee) to hold a hearing on the resolution to decide whether to put the measure to a vote by the full chamber and when to hold such a vote. That makes them look suspicious as hell to me.
Just my opinion but I think it was a pretty brilliant move. Three weeks ago democrats in the house, especially those in swing districts, were worried about voting for impeachment. In just the few weeks, tide has changed and the majority of Americans want to see impeachment. After Taylor's testimony, Republicans from swing states are going to be worried about voting against impeachment. This past month has seen testimony that is pretty damning and the proceedings have been totally within the bounds of the Constitution. Pelosi will have a vote to impeach and she will have bi-partisan support. This is easier for the American public to understand than a vote for inquiry with only democrats supporting, if that makes sense.
Perhaps. I think it was shady because of precedents. Only Democrats supporting? THe USHCotJ isn't just Democrats - https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members
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