So what actually is "socialism"

[mater-three]

I wrote it.

I see. I don’t have that much time on my hands.

Obviously.

When I write papers, I do so for my honors English class in college. I don't have time to argue with a bunch of strangers about stupid shit...obviously.

[Lemons]

I see. I don’t have that much time on my hands.

Obviously.

When I write papers, I do so for my honors English class in college. I don't have time to argue with a bunch of strangers about stupid shit...obviously.

Most of us are past that stage here.

[Carpy]

They're social programs are they not? But I'm not going to keep going back and forth with this. I'm not going to attempt to drag answers out of you about what I don't understand and why my examples are wrong. So we'll just agree to disagree and I'll do some reading about socialism and other political systems instead.

Social safety nets are not socialism. The means of production is solidly in the hands of private capital.

When speaking primarily of countries with large socialist programs, those are not “safety nets” those are benefits to every citizen regardless of need. You’re fixated on “means of production” which is more like communism. Get into this century.

Means of production is communisiom? That's an odd statement.

[TheQueenOfEverything]

well we wouldn’t want you to waste one more moment of your precious, valuable time on us! there’s a little red “x” at the top of your screen, just one little click and we’ll be out of your hair, leaving you to all the better things you have to do.

I see. I don’t have that much time on my hands.

Obviously.

When I write papers, I do so for my honors English class in college. I don't have time to argue with a bunch of strangers about stupid shit...obviously.

[Carpy]

Social safety nets are not socialism. The means of production is solidly in the hands of private capital.

When speaking primarily of countries with large socialist programs, those are not “safety nets” those are benefits to every citizen regardless of need. You’re fixated on “means of production” which is more like communism. Get into this century.

Yeah Carpy!

Don't fixate on the actual meaning - focus on what the Progressives are trying to sell.

Good grief.

I read that and all I could think is "what the f**k kind of nonsense is that?"

[Lemons]

Social safety nets are not socialism. The means of production is solidly in the hands of private capital.

When speaking primarily of countries with large socialist programs, those are not “safety nets” those are benefits to every citizen regardless of need. You’re fixated on “means of production” which is more like communism. Get into this century.

Means of production is communisiom? That's an odd statement.

Full government control, I left that out. What you said.

What do you think about Denmark’s government and the fact that the citizens pay twice as much money in taxes as us. Corporate taxes range from 28% to 78%. Sales tax is 25%. Denmark has poverty but out country has three times as much. They have massive socialist programs yet their venture capitalist as a percent of the GDP is higher than the US.

No system is perfect. Taking the best from all of them is the best way to go and being free from fear of trying new ways.

[mater-three]

well we wouldn’t want you to waste one more moment of your precious, valuable time on us! there’s a little red “x” at the top of your screen, just one little click and we’ll be out of your hair, leaving you to all the better things you have to do.

Obviously.

When I write papers, I do so for my honors English class in college. I don't have time to argue with a bunch of strangers about stupid shit...obviously.

lol. You know what? Your reaction to a simple comment is way overplayed. Continue with your exaggerated, defensive comments. It’s amusing.

[mater-three]

Obviously.

When I write papers, I do so for my honors English class in college. I don't have time to argue with a bunch of strangers about stupid shit...obviously.

Most of us are past that stage here.

I imagine most of those who are past that stage didn’t start where I did. I won’t bother explaining that comment but I will say that until you know a person, it’s best to refrain from making assumptions. Good day.

[Carpy]

When speaking primarily of countries with large socialist programs, those are not “safety nets” those are benefits to every citizen regardless of need. You’re fixated on “means of production” which is more like communism. Get into this century.

Means of production is communisiom? That's an odd statement.

Full government control, I left that out. What you said.

What do you think about Denmark’s government and the fact that the citizens pay twice as much money in taxes as us. Corporate taxes range from 28% to 78%. Sales tax is 25%. Denmark has poverty but out country has three times as much. They have massive socialist programs yet their venture capitalist as a percent of the GDP is higher than the US.

No system is perfect. Taking the best from all of them is the best way to go and being free from fear of trying new ways.

Denmark's corporate tax rate is 24.5%. Sweden's is 22%. These countries focus tax on earned income and VAT. They have a flat tax rate. The middle class is hardest hit.

[Billie.jeens]

Means of production is communisiom? That's an odd statement.

Full government control, I left that out. What you said.

What do you think about Denmark’s government and the fact that the citizens pay twice as much money in taxes as us. Corporate taxes range from 28% to 78%. Sales tax is 25%. Denmark has poverty but out country has three times as much. They have massive socialist programs yet their venture capitalist as a percent of the GDP is higher than the US.

No system is perfect. Taking the best from all of them is the best way to go and being free from fear of trying new ways.

Denmark's corporate tax rate is 24.5%. Sweden's is 22%. These countries focus tax on earned income and VAT. They have a flat tax rate. The middle class is hardest hit.

You're just afraid to try new things.