Climate change concerns farmers...

[libbylu]

I live in a rural community and work directly with farmers. All believe in climate change but many are also evangelicals and feel that man is not the cause of climate change - God is - and God will take care of it.

Oh my goodness...

It's not all bad. The organization I work for is run by farmers and serves farmers in our area. Our organization supplies farmers with resources necessary to reduce their carbon footprint, teaches best sustainable energy practices, and works with farmers in our area to change their growing practices as the climate changes. All farmers are on board regardless of whether or not they think climate change is man made. The key is making sustainable energy affordable and thereby attractive. If that is done, everyone, including evangelicals, are in. They may not do it to save the planet but they'll do it to save their pocket book.

That’s encouraging.
In my area , MN, there are a lot of wind farms and solar farms - acres of solar panels and the electric companies build them and use them
There are more homes with solar panels too which shows they are efficient anywhere in the USA .
Windmills in the flat prairie states where there’s a tremendous amount of wind are more common too.( even though the Koch brothers and others invested in fossil fuels say they kill birds )

[DSamuels]

Oh my goodness...

It's not all bad. The organization I work for is run by farmers and serves farmers in our area. Our organization supplies farmers with resources necessary to reduce their carbon footprint, teaches best sustainable energy practices, and works with farmers in our area to change their growing practices as the climate changes. All farmers are on board regardless of whether or not they think climate change is man made. The key is making sustainable energy affordable and thereby attractive. If that is done, everyone, including evangelicals, are in. They may not do it to save the planet but they'll do it to save their pocket book.

That’s encouraging.
In my area , MN, there are a lot of wind farms and solar farms - acres of solar panels and the electric companies build them and use them
There are more homes with solar panels too which shows they are efficient anywhere in the USA .
Windmills in the flat prairie states where there’s a tremendous amount of wind are more common too.( even though the Koch brothers and others invested in fossil fuels say they kill birds )

Are you saying they don’t kill birds?

Wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America, making it the most threatening form of green energy. And yet, it’s also one of the most rapidly expanding energy industries: more than 49,000 individual wind turbines now exist across 39 states.

https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind- ... safe-birds

Same amount of birds killed as above

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... ncna866336

Wind turbines are vital for sustainable power, providing cheap electricity without producing any sort of pollution. But they can be deadly for birds, and new research shows just how deadly: Wind turbines kill so many birds that in ecosystems where they are placed, the turbines effectively take on the role of a top predator.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popula ... ator-study

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It's not all bad. The organization I work for is run by farmers and serves farmers in our area. Our organization supplies farmers with resources necessary to reduce their carbon footprint, teaches best sustainable energy practices, and works with farmers in our area to change their growing practices as the climate changes. All farmers are on board regardless of whether or not they think climate change is man made. The key is making sustainable energy affordable and thereby attractive. If that is done, everyone, including evangelicals, are in. They may not do it to save the planet but they'll do it to save their pocket book.

That’s encouraging.
In my area , MN, there are a lot of wind farms and solar farms - acres of solar panels and the electric companies build them and use them
There are more homes with solar panels too which shows they are efficient anywhere in the USA .
Windmills in the flat prairie states where there’s a tremendous amount of wind are more common too.( even though the Koch brothers and others invested in fossil fuels say they kill birds )

Are you saying they don’t kill birds?

Wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America, making it the most threatening form of green energy. And yet, it’s also one of the most rapidly expanding energy industries: more than 49,000 individual wind turbines now exist across 39 states.

https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind- ... safe-birds

Same amount of birds killed as above

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... ncna866336

Wind turbines are vital for sustainable power, providing cheap electricity without producing any sort of pollution. But they can be deadly for birds, and new research shows just how deadly: Wind turbines kill so many birds that in ecosystems where they are placed, the turbines effectively take on the role of a top predator.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popula ... ator-study

It's true that there is concern about the number of migratory birds that are killed with wind turbines (it's less than the number who are killed by the reduction of habitat, btw). There is a considerable amount of work on bird-safe renewable energy (wind turbines) as well as alternate forms of energy such as solar, hydro, etc.

[libbylu]

It's not all bad. The organization I work for is run by farmers and serves farmers in our area. Our organization supplies farmers with resources necessary to reduce their carbon footprint, teaches best sustainable energy practices, and works with farmers in our area to change their growing practices as the climate changes. All farmers are on board regardless of whether or not they think climate change is man made. The key is making sustainable energy affordable and thereby attractive. If that is done, everyone, including evangelicals, are in. They may not do it to save the planet but they'll do it to save their pocket book.

That’s encouraging.
In my area , MN, there are a lot of wind farms and solar farms - acres of solar panels and the electric companies build them and use them
There are more homes with solar panels too which shows they are efficient anywhere in the USA .
Windmills in the flat prairie states where there’s a tremendous amount of wind are more common too.( even though the Koch brothers and others invested in fossil fuels say they kill birds )

Are you saying they don’t kill birds?

Wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America, making it the most threatening form of green energy. And yet, it’s also one of the most rapidly expanding energy industries: more than 49,000 individual wind turbines now exist across 39 states.

https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind- ... safe-birds

Same amount of birds killed as above

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... ncna866336

Wind turbines are vital for sustainable power, providing cheap electricity without producing any sort of pollution. But they can be deadly for birds, and new research shows just how deadly: Wind turbines kill so many birds that in ecosystems where they are placed, the turbines effectively take on the role of a top predator.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popula ... ator-study

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environ ... wind_power

[libbylu]

That’s encouraging.
In my area , MN, there are a lot of wind farms and solar farms - acres of solar panels and the electric companies build them and use them
There are more homes with solar panels too which shows they are efficient anywhere in the USA .
Windmills in the flat prairie states where there’s a tremendous amount of wind are more common too.( even though the Koch brothers and others invested in fossil fuels say they kill birds )

Are you saying they don’t kill birds?

Wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America, making it the most threatening form of green energy. And yet, it’s also one of the most rapidly expanding energy industries: more than 49,000 individual wind turbines now exist across 39 states.

https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind- ... safe-birds

Same amount of birds killed as above

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... ncna866336

Wind turbines are vital for sustainable power, providing cheap electricity without producing any sort of pollution. But they can be deadly for birds, and new research shows just how deadly: Wind turbines kill so many birds that in ecosystems where they are placed, the turbines effectively take on the role of a top predator.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popula ... ator-study

It's true that there is concern about the number of migratory birds that are killed with wind turbines (it's less than the number who are killed by the reduction of habitat, btw). There is a considerable amount of work on bird-safe renewable energy (wind turbines) as well as alternate forms of energy such as solar, hydro, etc.

Yes there are more birds killed as a result of other issues , more than killed by windmills/turbines.
I believe that alternative energy sources are more valuable and shouldn’t be abandoned in order to save some birds. People are more important than birds.

[Billie.jeens]

Birdbrain

[Aletheia]

Almost no one believes that man is causing it.

Even the hoxers admit that there is noting that we can do to stop it.
The best that we can do is spend a fortune virtue signaling how much we care.

I live in a rural community and work directly with farmers. All believe in climate change but many are also evangelicals and feel that man is not the cause of climate change - God is - and God will take care of it.

We, as a species (were we able to act together), certainly could do a lot to affect climate change, if we were willing to pay the price for doing so.

Right now, we've only managed to get a consensus behind paying just enough to limit the damage a bit.

[Nerdymom]

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[Della]

And yet farmers vote republican and voted for Trump.

My oldest daughter's in-laws own 5000 acres of land they farm in Iowa. They've turned against him, lol.

[Della]

And yet farmers vote republican and voted for Trump.

My oldest daughter's in-laws own 5000 acres of land they farm in Iowa. They've turned against him, lol.