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Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:14 pm
Anonymous 2 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:07 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:51 pm
It doesn't matter what race they are, I'd say the same thing if they were Swedish. In fact I don't get angry when the men at the barbershop where I take my kids speak in Italian while working. They are having their own private conversation in the language they are most comfortable with and they are not jackasses for that. You are not entitled to listen in on their conversation.
Its rude to speak in another language when around others that don't understand or speak that language, period. There is no excuse for that type of rudeness unless the person was raised in a barn by savages or in a jungle by wild animals. We stopped going to the nail salon where the jackasses spoke in another language while doing our nails plus dd got a nail infection from their nasty bad cleaning practices. They were shut down by the city a few weeks later, hahaha We found a great nail salon that is run by a respectful professional couple that will not allow their nail techs to speak in their native language during business hours unless they are at lunch. Even at the barber shop where my son goes, the owner and barbers always speak english even though they were born in another country. Some people have respect for others that don't speak their language, others not so much.
I completely disagree with you.
Of course you do, Im not surprised.
Like I said, a respectful professional business owner that values their customers business won't allow their employees to speak another language while servicing customers, not all business owners are like that. If you are in a group setting at a table and a few people start speaking another language knowing the rest of the party doesn't speak or understand that language, they are rude entitled jackasses. If you are at a large party and a few people start speaking another language as you pass by that's not rude because you aren't a party to that conversation
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That'swhatshesaid wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:26 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:22 pm I don't think she is entitled to the techs private conversation that has nothing to do with her just because she's doing her nails. She did clarify and said it's unprofessional for them to speak in another language at all while at work, unless they are on a lunch break.
Anonymous 3 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:17 pm When Anon2 said what she said, I thought she meant that she doesn't think it's appropriate for the salon technician that is working on her nails to be talking to another salon technician in a language that was unknown to Anon2. Perhaps Anon2 could clarify.

A private conversation is just that, private. If you don't want people to hear what you're saying, go in another room or walk away or wait until you are alone with the person and have your conversation then .
I'm allowed to chat about the weather or whatever without you needing to listen in. Not every conversation around you concerns you.
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Maybe “private” is a bad choice of words. Let’s say a conversation of a personal nature that doesn’t concern you. If 2 workers are making their lunch plans, or one is passing let’s say, a phone message to the other, it’s perfectly OK for them to do that in their native language. It doesn’t involve or concern anyone else.
That'swhatshesaid wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:26 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:22 pm I don't think she is entitled to the techs private conversation that has nothing to do with her just because she's doing her nails. She did clarify and said it's unprofessional for them to speak in another language at all while at work, unless they are on a lunch break.
Anonymous 3 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:17 pm When Anon2 said what she said, I thought she meant that she doesn't think it's appropriate for the salon technician that is working on her nails to be talking to another salon technician in a language that was unknown to Anon2. Perhaps Anon2 could clarify.

A private conversation is just that, private. If you don't want people to hear what you're saying, go in another room or walk away or wait until you are alone with the person and have your conversation then .
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Anonymous 2 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:28 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:14 pm
Anonymous 2 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:07 pm

Its rude to speak in another language when around others that don't understand or speak that language, period. There is no excuse for that type of rudeness unless the person was raised in a barn by savages or in a jungle by wild animals. We stopped going to the nail salon where the jackasses spoke in another language while doing our nails plus dd got a nail infection from their nasty bad cleaning practices. They were shut down by the city a few weeks later, hahaha We found a great nail salon that is run by a respectful professional couple that will not allow their nail techs to speak in their native language during business hours unless they are at lunch. Even at the barber shop where my son goes, the owner and barbers always speak english even though they were born in another country. Some people have respect for others that don't speak their language, others not so much.
I completely disagree with you.
Of course you do, Im not surprised.
Like I said, a respectful professional business owner that values their customers business won't allow their employees to speak another language while servicing customers, not all business owners are like that. If you are in a group setting at a table and a few people start speaking another language knowing the rest of the party doesn't speak or understand that language, they are rude entitled jackasses. If you are at a large party and a few people start speaking another language as you pass by that's not rude because you aren't a party to that conversation
I think you're completely wrong and luckily many people disagree with you. The best shops in our town with the most professional service have techs who speak in their native language and no one gets all uppity about it. They are not your friends having a meal with you, they're providing you a service and having a conversation with their coworker that you are not a part of. I think you're the one acting like a rude entitled jackass, thinking you're entitled to their conversation.
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I wonder if people like this do any traveling. I mean, do they expect service providers everywhere to start talking in English amongst themselves in their presence? Like, why?
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:31 pm
Anonymous 2 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:28 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:14 pm

I completely disagree with you.
Of course you do, Im not surprised.
Like I said, a respectful professional business owner that values their customers business won't allow their employees to speak another language while servicing customers, not all business owners are like that. If you are in a group setting at a table and a few people start speaking another language knowing the rest of the party doesn't speak or understand that language, they are rude entitled jackasses. If you are at a large party and a few people start speaking another language as you pass by that's not rude because you aren't a party to that conversation
I think you're completely wrong and luckily many people disagree with you. The best shops in our town with the most professional service have techs who speak in their native language and no one gets all uppity about it. They are not your friends having a meal with you, they're providing you a service and having a conversation with their coworker that you are not a part of. I think you're the one acting like a rude entitled jackass, thinking you're entitled to their conversation.
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For starters, professionalism would dictate that the worker should be giving her undivided attention to her client. If the conversation doesn't pertain to the client, it shouldn't be had at all...in English or in any other language.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:27 pm Why not? If the conversation doesn’t concern you, why should they stop using the language they’re more comfortable using?
Anonymous 3 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:25 pm I just read the response you are referring to. I want to reiterate that I see nothing wrong with two workers (who aren't working on me) speaking with one another in their native language.

I would only take issue with them doing that if either one of them was working on me at the time. The minute one of them is working on me, none of the workers should be speaking to my technician in anything other than the language that I understand.
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:13 pm

That is what anon2 is saying. She said she finds someone "savage" and thinks they were "raised by wild animals" if they speak in another language to a coworker around her, when she is not a part of the conversation.
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:35 pm I wonder if people like this do any traveling. I mean, do they expect service providers everywhere to start talking in English amongst themselves in their presence? Like, why?
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:31 pm
Anonymous 2 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:28 pm

Of course you do, Im not surprised.
Like I said, a respectful professional business owner that values their customers business won't allow their employees to speak another language while servicing customers, not all business owners are like that. If you are in a group setting at a table and a few people start speaking another language knowing the rest of the party doesn't speak or understand that language, they are rude entitled jackasses. If you are at a large party and a few people start speaking another language as you pass by that's not rude because you aren't a party to that conversation
I think you're completely wrong and luckily many people disagree with you. The best shops in our town with the most professional service have techs who speak in their native language and no one gets all uppity about it. They are not your friends having a meal with you, they're providing you a service and having a conversation with their coworker that you are not a part of. I think you're the one acting like a rude entitled jackass, thinking you're entitled to their conversation.
I've been to Mexico twice and most of the staff at the resorts spoke English.
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There are. Before my grandparents moved here, they would get tourists, usually British, Australian, or American, who would tell them to speak in English around them while my grandfather was at work. 75% of the guys in his shop knew little to no English. This wasn't just to them, they had english speaking servers who would take orders in english, but my grandfather would be working away, chatting with a coworker, and they would say "hey, can you speak english?"
Momto2boys973 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:35 pm I wonder if people like this do any traveling. I mean, do they expect service providers everywhere to start talking in English amongst themselves in their presence? Like, why?
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:31 pm
Anonymous 2 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:28 pm

Of course you do, Im not surprised.
Like I said, a respectful professional business owner that values their customers business won't allow their employees to speak another language while servicing customers, not all business owners are like that. If you are in a group setting at a table and a few people start speaking another language knowing the rest of the party doesn't speak or understand that language, they are rude entitled jackasses. If you are at a large party and a few people start speaking another language as you pass by that's not rude because you aren't a party to that conversation
I think you're completely wrong and luckily many people disagree with you. The best shops in our town with the most professional service have techs who speak in their native language and no one gets all uppity about it. They are not your friends having a meal with you, they're providing you a service and having a conversation with their coworker that you are not a part of. I think you're the one acting like a rude entitled jackass, thinking you're entitled to their conversation.
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Depends on the service and the type of conversation. I see nothing wrong with two hairstylists having a conversation while dyeing hair. It doesn’t detract from their attention and not every customer is interested in having a conversation with their hairstylist. I’m perfectly comfortable with mine just letting me read my book in peace while she does my hair. If in the meantime she’s telling her friend about the restaurant she went to, great. Even doctors during surgery sometimes have a minute or 2 of personal conversation.
And the conversation doesn’t have to be personal. It could be one asking a work related question or relating a work related message.
Now, if you’re trying to get service and it’s just not happening because the 2 workers are just chatting away, that’s unacceptable. Even if they’re doing it in your language.
Anonymous 3 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:36 pm For starters, professionalism would dictate that the worker should be giving her undivided attention to her client. If the conversation doesn't pertain to the client, it shouldn't be had at all...in English or in any other language.
Momto2boys973 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:27 pm Why not? If the conversation doesn’t concern you, why should they stop using the language they’re more comfortable using?
Anonymous 3 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:25 pm I just read the response you are referring to. I want to reiterate that I see nothing wrong with two workers (who aren't working on me) speaking with one another in their native language.

I would only take issue with them doing that if either one of them was working on me at the time. The minute one of them is working on me, none of the workers should be speaking to my technician in anything other than the language that I understand.

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Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:31 pm
Anonymous 2 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:28 pm
Olioxenfree wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:14 pm

I completely disagree with you.
Of course you do, Im not surprised.
Like I said, a respectful professional business owner that values their customers business won't allow their employees to speak another language while servicing customers, not all business owners are like that. If you are in a group setting at a table and a few people start speaking another language knowing the rest of the party doesn't speak or understand that language, they are rude entitled jackasses. If you are at a large party and a few people start speaking another language as you pass by that's not rude because you aren't a party to that conversation
I think you're completely wrong and luckily many people disagree with you. The best shops in our town with the most professional service have techs who speak in their native language and no one gets all uppity about it. They are not your friends having a meal with you, they're providing you a service and having a conversation with their coworker that you are not a part of. I think you're the one acting like a rude entitled jackass, thinking you're entitled to their conversation.
Im not the one acting like a rude entitled jackass making excuses for rude manners by saying its okay for people to speak in another language because they are learning english or they are chatting about their life or they are making lunch plans. I live in one of the best areas of the country and most people here aren't that rude and entitled but where you live.........
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