Women Are Losing the Capacity to Give Birth

[Deleted User 638]

Do you not understand how evolution works? Simply using pitocin does not change your DNA. The only way that medical intervention during childbirth could be changing our DNA and causing us to evolve to no longer be able to naturally give birth is if it is allowing women who would otherwise not be able to successfully give birth the ability to do so, as in the women who need emergency medical procedures in order for them or their baby to survive. If a woman is able to give birth without pitocin, using pitocin will not change her DNA and cause her to pass on some gene that would cause her children to be unable to successfully give live birth.

Everything you go through can alter your DNA. Whether it’s childbirth, illnesses, traumatic or exciting experiences, all of it can alter your epigenetics.

I do not believe becoming a widow altered my DNA whatsoever. Yes, it crushed me emotionally, changed how I view things. But my DNA? Not even close.

I agree. Using her logic our DNA is constantly changing as we face life's adversaries. That's not true.

[Anonymous 1]

Do you not understand how evolution works? Simply using pitocin does not change your DNA. The only way that medical intervention during childbirth could be changing our DNA and causing us to evolve to no longer be able to naturally give birth is if it is allowing women who would otherwise not be able to successfully give birth the ability to do so, as in the women who need emergency medical procedures in order for them or their baby to survive. If a woman is able to give birth without pitocin, using pitocin will not change her DNA and cause her to pass on some gene that would cause her children to be unable to successfully give live birth.

Everything you go through can alter your DNA. Whether it’s childbirth, illnesses, traumatic or exciting experiences, all of it can alter your epigenetics.

I do not believe becoming a widow altered my DNA whatsoever. Yes, it crushed me emotionally, changed how I view things. But my DNA? Not even close.

It can. If you would classify that experience as having a high stress impact, there are a number of genes that could have been affected when it comes to gene expression.

[Anonymous 1]

Everything you go through can alter your DNA. Whether it’s childbirth, illnesses, traumatic or exciting experiences, all of it can alter your epigenetics.

I do not believe becoming a widow altered my DNA whatsoever. Yes, it crushed me emotionally, changed how I view things. But my DNA? Not even close.

I agree. Using her logic our DNA is constantly changing as we face life's adversaries. That's not true.

That is true actually.



https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 174849.htm
Researchers have found that epigenetic marks on DNA -- chemical marks other than the DNA sequence -- do indeed change over a person's lifetime, and that the degree of change is similar among family members. The team suggests that overall genome health is heritable and that epigenetic changes occurring over one's lifetime may explain why disease susceptibility increases with age.


http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/ ... l-illness/

How stress can change your DNA
A first link between chronic stress, genetics, and mental illness has recently observed in mice. Researchers have discovered that the genes of mice exposed to chronic stress change over time. Modifications were most associated with genes related to a variety of mental illnesses, such as depression, autism spectrum disorder, and schizophrenia.1-3

How exactly are genetics, stress, and mental illness related? DNA, serves as instructions for cells and is broken up into functional units called genes. The interplay between DNA and the environment is what makes each person unique. Environmental factors can cause DNA to be temporarily modified, without changing the sequence, to alter how it is read. Epigenetics, meaning “attached to the DNA”, is the study of such modifications.

[Deleted User 638]

I do not believe becoming a widow altered my DNA whatsoever. Yes, it crushed me emotionally, changed how I view things. But my DNA? Not even close.

I agree. Using her logic our DNA is constantly changing as we face life's adversaries. That's not true.

That is true actually.



https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 174849.htm
Researchers have found that epigenetic marks on DNA -- chemical marks other than the DNA sequence -- do indeed change over a person's lifetime, and that the degree of change is similar among family members. The team suggests that overall genome health is heritable and that epigenetic changes occurring over one's lifetime may explain why disease susceptibility increases with age.


http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/ ... l-illness/

How stress can change your DNA
A first link between chronic stress, genetics, and mental illness has recently observed in mice. Researchers have discovered that the genes of mice exposed to chronic stress change over time. Modifications were most associated with genes related to a variety of mental illnesses, such as depression, autism spectrum disorder, and schizophrenia.1-3

How exactly are genetics, stress, and mental illness related? DNA, serves as instructions for cells and is broken up into functional units called genes. The interplay between DNA and the environment is what makes each person unique. Environmental factors can cause DNA to be temporarily modified, without changing the sequence, to alter how it is read. Epigenetics, meaning “attached to the DNA”, is the study of such modifications.

Please link a long term study of humans done by reputable researchers that showed loss of loved ones causes genetic changes.

[MonarchMom]

I have read that trauma can leave a lasting alteration to brain function, and even effect future offspring's ability to handle stress. But a lot of these types of "articles" seem like anti-feminist, get women back into their primary role propaganda.

[Pjmm]

Moral molecule is a term coined by a neuroeconomist named Paul Zak.

It was meant to describe a neural process that oxytocin affects to the layman.

Yes a brief look at him tells me he discusses trust and love- things that increase oxytocin and builds a better relationship in the workplace or in the family. But that has nothing to do with genetics. His field involves decision making and psychology to be very brief.

That’s true. The article mentions it as a way to describe what oxytocin does. The Dr being discussed is talking about oxytocin’s role in labor, and whether or not that role is being diminished due to the overuse of pitocin.

And absolutely doesn't explain the definition of moral molecule which I daresay most people don't know. That's my problem with this damned thing and why I said it's biased. My other problems I've mentioned ad nauseam. My biggest one is you yourself admitted the wretched thing is biased.

[Anonymous 1]

I agree. Using her logic our DNA is constantly changing as we face life's adversaries. That's not true.

That is true actually.



https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 174849.htm
Researchers have found that epigenetic marks on DNA -- chemical marks other than the DNA sequence -- do indeed change over a person's lifetime, and that the degree of change is similar among family members. The team suggests that overall genome health is heritable and that epigenetic changes occurring over one's lifetime may explain why disease susceptibility increases with age.


http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/ ... l-illness/

How stress can change your DNA
A first link between chronic stress, genetics, and mental illness has recently observed in mice. Researchers have discovered that the genes of mice exposed to chronic stress change over time. Modifications were most associated with genes related to a variety of mental illnesses, such as depression, autism spectrum disorder, and schizophrenia.1-3

How exactly are genetics, stress, and mental illness related? DNA, serves as instructions for cells and is broken up into functional units called genes. The interplay between DNA and the environment is what makes each person unique. Environmental factors can cause DNA to be temporarily modified, without changing the sequence, to alter how it is read. Epigenetics, meaning “attached to the DNA”, is the study of such modifications.

Please link a long term study of humans that showed loss of loved ones causes genetic changes.

The reason I said “ if you classify it as a high stress...” is because each high stress situation a person could go through has not been studied on its own.




https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-res ... ic-changes

During stressful situations, we produce steroid hormones called glucocorticoids that affect many systems throughout the body. These effects are mediated by the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, a network involving the hypothalamus and pituitary gland in the brain and the adrenal glands near the kidneys.

Past studies have found that glucocorticoids alter gene expression in the brain. A group led by Drs. James B. Potash and Gary S. Wand at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine set out to investigate how glucocorticoids affect genes central to the HPA axis. They hypothesized that the hormones may affect the HPA axis through epigenetic modifications—changes to DNA that don’t alter sequences but influence gene expression

[Anonymous 1]

Yes a brief look at him tells me he discusses trust and love- things that increase oxytocin and builds a better relationship in the workplace or in the family. But that has nothing to do with genetics. His field involves decision making and psychology to be very brief.

That’s true. The article mentions it as a way to describe what oxytocin does. The Dr being discussed is talking about oxytocin’s role in labor, and whether or not that role is being diminished due to the overuse of pitocin.

And absolutely doesn't explain the definition of moral molecule which I daresay most people don't know. That's my problem with this damned thing and why I said it's biased. My other problems I've mentioned ad nauseam. My biggest one is you yourself admitted the wretched thing is biased.

The phrase “ throw the baby out with the bath water” comes to mind.

It’s just a topic for discussion, I never meant for it to be proof of anything or any sort of absolute.

[Deleted User 638]

That is true actually.



https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 174849.htm
Researchers have found that epigenetic marks on DNA -- chemical marks other than the DNA sequence -- do indeed change over a person's lifetime, and that the degree of change is similar among family members. The team suggests that overall genome health is heritable and that epigenetic changes occurring over one's lifetime may explain why disease susceptibility increases with age.


http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/ ... l-illness/

How stress can change your DNA
A first link between chronic stress, genetics, and mental illness has recently observed in mice. Researchers have discovered that the genes of mice exposed to chronic stress change over time. Modifications were most associated with genes related to a variety of mental illnesses, such as depression, autism spectrum disorder, and schizophrenia.1-3

How exactly are genetics, stress, and mental illness related? DNA, serves as instructions for cells and is broken up into functional units called genes. The interplay between DNA and the environment is what makes each person unique. Environmental factors can cause DNA to be temporarily modified, without changing the sequence, to alter how it is read. Epigenetics, meaning “attached to the DNA”, is the study of such modifications.

Please link a long term study of humans that showed loss of loved ones causes genetic changes.

The reason I said “ if you classify it as a high stress...” is because each high stress situation a person could go through has not been studied on its own.




https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-res ... ic-changes

During stressful situations, we produce steroid hormones called glucocorticoids that affect many systems throughout the body. These effects are mediated by the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, a network involving the hypothalamus and pituitary gland in the brain and the adrenal glands near the kidneys.

Past studies have found that glucocorticoids alter gene expression in the brain. A group led by Drs. James B. Potash and Gary S. Wand at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine set out to investigate how glucocorticoids affect genes central to the HPA axis. They hypothesized that the hormones may affect the HPA axis through epigenetic modifications—changes to DNA that don’t alter sequences but influence gene expression

Hypotheses are not facts.

[Deleted User 1039]

Mothering.com = biased horse shit. Produce a no biased source, and I might actually click the link.

Life experience as far as bad nutrition and such that affects us physically is pretty much the only thing passed on via dna. Anything else is hocuspocus. My hating my father and such is not passed on in my dna. However, his blue eyes might.

We aren’t positive what exactly is nature vs nurture, and I won’t cite mothering.com. But you are dismissing valid research without considering it. I didn’t read the story, and these sources aren’t related. But they discuss the idea of epigenetics and the impact that stress can have on future generations who did not experience the stressors.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2019 ... pigenetics

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transge ... nheritance
(Yeah, I know it’s Wikipedia. But it contains an easy to read description of the idea and tons of valid references)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5977074/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html
-an article providing an argument against these claims

The jury is still out. For obvious reasons, controlled experiments can never ethically be done in humans to determine if certain traumas or stresses can impact future generations. But there is plenty we don’t know about genetics, enough that it would be premature to completely dismiss the idea as nonsense. Gene expression certainly can be altered without changing the DNA sequence itself because it’s all more complicated than “this sequence means you will have blue eyes” and “this sequence means you will get breast cancer.” AndSome of those changes are hereditary. We can sequence an individual’s genome, but we can’t make certain predictions based on that because there are many more factors at play than just amino acids lining up a certain way. Some of that is nature, some of that is epigenetics.

Have you ever looked at studies of identical twins raised separately? They’re an interesting way to study epigenetics. Your hatred of your father may be more genetic than you think it is, actually.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063335/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/maga ... portraits/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_study