I don't want the DAD involved!!!!

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I never would have agreed to the test.
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Pjmm wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:03 am
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Pjmm wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:53 am

Due to the abortion laws, we have firmly established the "my body my choice" mentality, where it's perfectly acceptable and understood that a woman may abort a man's child whether he wants that child or not. He has zero say.

She has total control over whether that child comes into this world at all. That's the reason why the ultimate responsibility for birth control SHOULD rest firmly on the shoulders of the woman i.e. "keep your legs closed". When you have 100% control, you're obligated to manage that dominion. It's logical.

For the record, I've seen and heard "keep your pants zipped" plenty.
I don't look at it the way you do nor do I even understand it. If what you say is true a man would be a complete idiot to not use condoms or help a woman with birth control. Of course I have sons so perhaps I've got a different perspective. My perspective is also this: say hypothetically my son and the woman are going to have a baby. He has rights and responsibilities now. So does she, although she can abort or not. Oh well. Like it or not that's our legal system and most likely will not change. So, have S*x at your own risk. That's just common sense and facing reality.

"If what I say is true". I'm not sure where there's any question. The woman decides to abort or not and there's nothing the man can do about it. These are the facts. He can't stop her. The woman has 100% say.

Yes PJ, a man would be an absolute idiot to not engage in protecting against pregnancy. Agreed. But there are a fair amount that don't care or worry themselves too much about it.

Since the woman is the one who has to go through all of it (making the decision, carrying the baby, getting an abortion) I've always taken the position that I'm damn well going to be certain that I don't get pregnant if I don't want to. I'm not going to rely on someone else to be responsible for such an important thing.
Well given that 99.9 percent of the time the woman is doing most of the raising of that child-i did even though I was married- I've got no problem with a woman deciding to abort. Not when all a man has to do is write that cs check and sometimes they don't even do that or they fight it every step of the way. To not stand up for our rights to hold men accountable is moronic and stupid in a time where the politicians already want to limit insurances paying for our bc much less abortions. But I bet if they need Viagra that shit is covered. Now I don't mean to get on a soapbox and you can disagree but meanwhile I will tell my sons single motherhood is hard. I lived it although my ex was involved. But many men aren't so those women often suffer isolation and poverty. That's a fact. I don't complain; I made my bed. But by God I say to my sons you will accept your responsibility or answer to me. If you don't want children use condoms and pick your partner wisely. If I had daughters I'd tell her the father has rights and you need to let him have them, also use birth control. Both should take responsibility for it. Also fathers are extremely important in children's lives. That's been proven. Now in op's case this man wants to be involved. That's commendable and assuming he's not toxic she should let him.
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I agree with you PJ. And it's great to know you're raising responsible young men. I'm sure most of us have run into ones that weren't. :)
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Pjmm wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:31 am
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Olioxenfree wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:39 pm How old are you? It's odd that you stated the guys age as if that's really old to you. If he is not a bad person, he should see his son. You are being selfish, your son deserves to know who his father is.
Im 30 years old. He's fourteen years older than me. Im sorry but I do tend to think of him as being "old".
But not too old to sleep with right? Look Idc what people do. But you're being hypocritical. 44 isn't old from my perspective. He could be 70 and still have the right to see his child.
I don't think of him as being an old man but I'm wondering why I did sleep with someone who was quite a bit older than me. I just feel iffy when it comes to him having rights to my son. If he lived closer, I probably wouldn't feel that way. My job as a parent is to protect my son. I have no idea what's going on if he has him. Plus he could be a pervert. His Facebook page has a bunch of S*x related stuff on it. Is that mature? Would you want your child to go spend a weekend with him? Four hours away from you?
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Sucks to be you I guess. Just because you birthed the child doesn't mean you alone get to call the shots. If dude is the dad, he has a right to be involved with his child.
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I can understand your apprehension. If he is proven to be the father, I would hope that the courts would say that "alone time" with dad would be a gradual thing. I would think it would not be in the best interest of the child to just allow him to be shipped off 4 hours away to a stranger (that so happens to be his father).
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Im 30 years old. He's fourteen years older than me. Im sorry but I do tend to think of him as being "old".
But not too old to sleep with right? Look Idc what people do. But you're being hypocritical. 44 isn't old from my perspective. He could be 70 and still have the right to see his child.
I don't think of him as being an old man but I'm wondering why I did sleep with someone who was quite a bit older than me. I just feel iffy when it comes to him having rights to my son. If he lived closer, I probably wouldn't feel that way. My job as a parent is to protect my son. I have no idea what's going on if he has him. Plus he could be a pervert. His Facebook page has a bunch of S*x related stuff on it. Is that mature? Would you want your child to go spend a weekend with him? Four hours away from you?
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:51 am
Pjmm wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:31 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:33 pm

Im 30 years old. He's fourteen years older than me. Im sorry but I do tend to think of him as being "old".
But not too old to sleep with right? Look Idc what people do. But you're being hypocritical. 44 isn't old from my perspective. He could be 70 and still have the right to see his child.
I don't think of him as being an old man but I'm wondering why I did sleep with someone who was quite a bit older than me. I just feel iffy when it comes to him having rights to my son. If he lived closer, I probably wouldn't feel that way. My job as a parent is to protect my son. I have no idea what's going on if he has him. Plus he could be a pervert. His Facebook page has a bunch of S*x related stuff on it. Is that mature? Would you want your child to go spend a weekend with him? Four hours away from you?
Guess you should have thought about that before you hopped in the sack with a stranger. If this is real, you're a piece of shit and I hope he gets custody.
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That'swhatshesaid wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:05 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:51 am
Pjmm wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:31 am

But not too old to sleep with right? Look Idc what people do. But you're being hypocritical. 44 isn't old from my perspective. He could be 70 and still have the right to see his child.
I don't think of him as being an old man but I'm wondering why I did sleep with someone who was quite a bit older than me. I just feel iffy when it comes to him having rights to my son. If he lived closer, I probably wouldn't feel that way. My job as a parent is to protect my son. I have no idea what's going on if he has him. Plus he could be a pervert. His Facebook page has a bunch of S*x related stuff on it. Is that mature? Would you want your child to go spend a weekend with him? Four hours away from you?
Guess you should have thought about that before you hopped in the sack with a stranger. If this is real, you're a piece of shit and I hope he gets custody.
How am I a POS?
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:51 am
Pjmm wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:31 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:33 pm

Im 30 years old. He's fourteen years older than me. Im sorry but I do tend to think of him as being "old".
But not too old to sleep with right? Look Idc what people do. But you're being hypocritical. 44 isn't old from my perspective. He could be 70 and still have the right to see his child.
I don't think of him as being an old man but I'm wondering why I did sleep with someone who was quite a bit older than me. I just feel iffy when it comes to him having rights to my son. If he lived closer, I probably wouldn't feel that way. My job as a parent is to protect my son. I have no idea what's going on if he has him. Plus he could be a pervert. His Facebook page has a bunch of S*x related stuff on it. Is that mature? Would you want your child to go spend a weekend with him? Four hours away from you?
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:24 pm
That'swhatshesaid wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:05 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:51 am

I don't think of him as being an old man but I'm wondering why I did sleep with someone who was quite a bit older than me. I just feel iffy when it comes to him having rights to my son. If he lived closer, I probably wouldn't feel that way. My job as a parent is to protect my son. I have no idea what's going on if he has him. Plus he could be a pervert. His Facebook page has a bunch of S*x related stuff on it. Is that mature? Would you want your child to go spend a weekend with him? Four hours awSay from you?
Guess you should have thought about that before you hopped in the sack with a stranger. If this is real, you're a piece of shit and I hope he gets custody.
How am I a POS?
Anyone who keeps a child from their other parent for no good reason other than being selfish is a piece of shit.
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That'swhatshesaid wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:26 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:24 pm
That'swhatshesaid wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:05 pm

Guess you should have thought about that before you hopped in the sack with a stranger. If this is real, you're a piece of shit and I hope he gets custody.
How am I a POS?
Anyone who keeps a child from their other parent for no good reason other than being selfish is a piece of shit.
I did what I thought was best at the time. You don't know the complete circumstances
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