Welfare

[Anonymous2.0]

“if you’re unmarried with children you waive your right to receive child support so if you are claiming the father of your kids doesn’t live with you, they collect the amount of assistance you get back from him. if your CS exceeds the amount of assistance you would get they close your case.“

if you are receiving assistance you have to report the income of anyone living in the home. and if you’re unmarried with children you waive your right to receive child support so if you are claiming the father of your kids doesn’t live with you, they collect the amount of assistance you get back from him. if your CS exceeds the amount of assistance you would get they close your case.

Well, what happens when the mom uses a family member’s address and the dad lives with her......I worked in child care many years and seen all kinds of variations of deception.

I am just telling you that mom says they don’t live together. Therefore, they don’t count his income. Also, how easy it to say-I don’t know who the dad is and then there is no one to go after meanwhile, she’s living with him......happens more than you’d think.

[RedBottoms]

I do not understand. Currently people have their children removed from their care all the time. Communities have to have massive backpack programs, because despite food vouchers, children supposedly are starving & food insecure. So how are all these regulations, which actually cost much more money, benefitting the poor youth?

it will be just like now. These families receive free breakfast and lunch for their kids at school and food stamps and go to food banks and yet the kids still don't get fed.............because the F***ing parents are lazy or they eat all the food themselves or they sell the food to make a buck.

I know plenty of people who make deals where "I will let you buy $100 of groceries with my food stamp card-if you give me $50 cash". I was standing right there when my friend and her other friend made that deal.

Again you can't ever make bad parents be good parents and CPS won't take them from their parents in most cases.

There is no real answer besides bringing back orphanages and going to a dictatorship communist thing where we sterilize people and don't let them have kids if they can't take care of them.

And why didn't you report your friend for fraud? Looking the other way when you know it's not ok is wrong too. Other than that you seem to have a very jaded view of people on assistance not everyone is like that and doesn't feed their kids. Perhaps you need to take a look at the quality of the company you keep. I have worked with hundreds of people on assistance every one of our clients were taken to apply to help them get back on their feet while in our shelter. Very seldom did we ever have issues with them not feeding their children. Even those that stayed in our transitional program long term where they rented apartments owned by the shelter. Yes, I'm sure it does happen but there are far more people that actually use their assistance to take care of their family's.

Because in her case the kids were fed so whatever. If they were going without food-that would have been different. My mom did report on people for fraud all the time when she was working for the church delivering them food.

[TheQueenOfEverything]

if they don’t count his income, they recoup the funds by collecting the CS he would owe. if he’s on the birth certificate, it’s hard to say you don’t know who he is. and my guess is it happens less than you think.

“if you’re unmarried with children you waive your right to receive child support so if you are claiming the father of your kids doesn’t live with you, they collect the amount of assistance you get back from him. if your CS exceeds the amount of assistance you would get they close your case.“

Well, what happens when the mom uses a family member’s address and the dad lives with her......I worked in child care many years and seen all kinds of variations of deception.

I am just telling you that mom says they don’t live together. Therefore, they don’t count his income. Also, how easy it to say-I don’t know who the dad is and then there is no one to go after meanwhile, she’s living with him......happens more than you’d think.

[Anonymous2.0]

if they don’t count his income, they recoup the funds by collecting the CS he would owe. if he’s on the birth certificate, it’s hard to say you don’t know who he is. and my guess is it happens less than you think.

“if you’re unmarried with children you waive your right to receive child support so if you are claiming the father of your kids doesn’t live with you, they collect the amount of assistance you get back from him. if your CS exceeds the amount of assistance you would get they close your case.“

I am just telling you that mom says they don’t live together. Therefore, they don’t count his income. Also, how easy it to say-I don’t know who the dad is and then there is no one to go after meanwhile, she’s living with him......happens more than you’d think.

You do not have to put a father’s name on the birth certificate.

[Reedusstalker]

1. If you need any welfare in your household at all and you are abled bodied, you need to be working full time. You should at least be trying to support the family you made. Only exception is if you are in school full time.

2. There needs to be a step down so people who get a 25 cent raised don't just lose everything. So if you get 450 a month in FS and you get a raise, the next month you only get 400, then 350 and so on. It is insane to just strip people of everything because of a small raise.

3. No increase if you get pregnant while on any welfare.

4. If there is a working person in your house, their income should count. Too many people living with their SO but claiming roommates so they can get more help.

5. There should be a time limit, say...5 years or something. In 5 years you should be able to get your shit together and get off welfare, including section 8. It's not right to just stay on section 8 for years, other people need the help too. I think if they set a time limit for all welfare you would see more abled bodied people getting off it, if they know it will end at some point they will be forced to get it together.

[Anonymous 0]

They’ve had their whole lives to work and save.

I would eliminate all welfare. No food stamps, no housing assistance, etc.

The only people who really need help are the severely mentally ill who are in institutions. They need to be there and someone has to pay the institutions. That may fall under Medicaid or a similar service, not welfare.

Hunger is a great motivator. Years ago there was no welfare, yet somehow people survived. Welfare just increases the amount of people who live off it.

What about the elderly? just say to hell with the old people nevermind they worked their asses off for years and paid into our system and now they are making $800 a month. Should they not get Medicare and Medicaid either? People with cancer or other terminal illnesses or the disabled?

[Anonymous 7]

Breastfeeding is free.

I'd like to see something for people who make just a bit too much for help. Idk what. Like some people, they only make 5 bucks too much for help. That has always seemed like bullshit to me.

I made $1.50 too much for WIC when my dd was born. I was active duty military. A freaking $1.50. Seems they could have given me less formula or whatever. But nope. It also didn’t help that as in most military towns, homeowners set their rent to match housing allowance. My housing allowance barely covered my rent and not at all my utilities.


If I could change one thing. I would not allow for parents to stay home instead of working some sort of job. My neighbor has four kids. Her husband works full time and she works weekends. There is always a way to have some sort of job. If you are working and doing your best and still need help then by all means. But a girl I went to school with never has worked a day in her life and mills the system. Then posts all over FB crying when things are tight.

[RedBottoms]

They’ve had their whole lives to work and save.

I would eliminate all welfare. No food stamps, no housing assistance, etc.

The only people who really need help are the severely mentally ill who are in institutions. They need to be there and someone has to pay the institutions. That may fall under Medicaid or a similar service, not welfare.

Hunger is a great motivator. Years ago there was no welfare, yet somehow people survived. Welfare just increases the amount of people who live off it.

What about the elderly? just say to hell with the old people nevermind they worked their asses off for years and paid into our system and now they are making $800 a month. Should they not get Medicare and Medicaid either? People with cancer or other terminal illnesses or the disabled?

well this goes to the whole SS debate. If they let those people KEEP their tax money that went into SS they could have invested or saved it. But the government TOOK that money and said "Oh well one day you will get it back". So then, its still THEIR money and they have every right to it. I expect every goddamn penny that DH and I paid into SS to be paid back to us one day.If its not, I am going to be rightfully pissed

[RedBottoms]

Breastfeeding is free.

I'd like to see something for people who make just a bit too much for help. Idk what. Like some people, they only make 5 bucks too much for help. That has always seemed like bullshit to me.

I made $1.50 too much for WIC when my dd was born. I was active duty military. A freaking $1.50. Seems they could have given me less formula or whatever. But nope. It also didn’t help that as in most military towns, homeowners set their rent to match housing allowance. My housing allowance barely covered my rent and not at all my utilities.


If I could change one thing. I would not allow for parents to stay home instead of working some sort of job. My neighbor has four kids. Her husband works full time and she works weekends. There is always a way to have some sort of job. If you are working and doing your best and still need help then by all means. But a girl I went to school with never has worked a day in her life and mills the system. Then posts all over FB crying when things are tight.

not everyone can breastfeed. Some women's milk never comes in due to hormone issues or some babies have medical issues were they can't suck hard enough to nurse etc

[Anonymous 7]

It’s a microscopic number. Mostly, women just give up because BFing is hard, and use formula. It shouldn’t be an option if you can’t buy it yourself.

Breastfeeding is free.

I made $1.50 too much for WIC when my dd was born. I was active duty military. A freaking $1.50. Seems they could have given me less formula or whatever. But nope. It also didn’t help that as in most military towns, homeowners set their rent to match housing allowance. My housing allowance barely covered my rent and not at all my utilities.


If I could change one thing. I would not allow for parents to stay home instead of working some sort of job. My neighbor has four kids. Her husband works full time and she works weekends. There is always a way to have some sort of job. If you are working and doing your best and still need help then by all means. But a girl I went to school with never has worked a day in her life and mills the system. Then posts all over FB crying when things are tight.

not everyone can breastfeed. Some women's milk never comes in due to hormone issues or some babies have medical issues were they can't suck hard enough to nurse etc